The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I hold Pele's goalscoring record in the same regard as Taribo West's birth certificate. David Luiz is just Frank Leboeuf in a wig and with a better social media persona...and maybe not as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gotze is the one who is completely overrated, he is the one not on par with Hazard and Neymar. To me, in a 5 year time, Hazard and Neymar will be two of the best in the world and Mario Gotze will be a little bit behind in the discussion.If you compare a 10min youtube video of the very best of Maradona and Pelé, the Argentine will win hands down (even Garrincha would). However, career wise, it is not even a debate. Pelé had the greatest career both on a personal level and as far as titles go.As a footballer it's not even debatable, Maradona set a standard rarely reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Pep isn't all that and Bayern's Heynckes is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hhahahaha, I that is enough messing around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Ronaldo and Messi need to star in a World Cup to truly cement themselves as one of the best of all time. I disagree. The argentinian and the portuguese national teams are simply not good enough. One player could not win a world cup. And what about Ibra? He has never got a chance(and never will) to play in a WC final..Argentina's team could win the World Cup? Their defense is a bit iffy, but their offense...oh man. They're the Man City of international soccer.Neuer, Bale, Xavi, Neymar, Hummels amd Negredo are very overrated playersWhaaaaat!?! No way. Neur maybe. Neymar maybe. Bale isnt, if he was with Chelsea you wouldn't be saying that. Xavi never makes a bad pass or loses posession. Hummels is a top 5 CB in the world. Negredo isn't that highly rated? Neymar is a tad overrated, not on par with the like of Hazard or Götze.IMO Maradona > Pele.Gotze is the one who is completely overrated, he is the one not on par with Hazard and Neymar. To me, in a 5 year time, Hazard and Neymar will be two of the best in the world and Mario Gotze will be a little bit behind in the discussion.If you compare a 10min youtube video of the very best of Maradona and Pelé, the Argentine will win hands down (even Garrincha would). However, career wise, it is not even a debate. Pelé had the greatest career both on a personal level and as far as titles go.Maradona>>>>>>>>>PeleGotze>Hazard>>>>>>>>Neymar. Gotze is 20! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gotze is 20! Gotze will be 22 this year........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gotze is 20! Gotze will be 22 this year........ Hes 21, my bad. To say he's overrated is insane. Neymar is overrated, he went from Brazil to the weakest of the 5 major leagues in the world. Gotze is playing in the BUNDESLIGA and has way more world class experience. He's the future of Bayern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hes 21, my bad. To say he's overrated is insane. Neymar is overrated, he went from Brazil to the weakest of the 5 major leagues in the world. Gotze is playing in the BUNDESLIGA and has way more world class experience. He's the future of Bayern.He is just a couple of months older than Neymar and he has done nothing major yet. He has never been the focal point of any team (despite playing for BVB and Bayern). Gotze isnt even a regular starter for Bayern and Neymar only needed 2 weeks to beat Pedro, Sanchez and Fabregas for the starting position!Also, La Liga is the weakest of the 5 major leagues? ROFL! Spain is a tougher place than playing for Bayern in the Bundesliga. The fact Barcelona has to face Atletico and Real twice a year is already harder than to beat 5-0 every other opponent in Germany.But I dont need to be having this discussion now. Return 5 years from now and see how foolish you will have look (just like in the Confederations Cup)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,698 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Argentina's team could win the World Cup? Their defense is a bit iffy, but their offense...oh man. They're the Man City of international soccer.They have several outstanding attackers(Messi, Agüero, Tevez, Higuain, Lamela, Di Maria), but therit midfield and defense is shit and they never work with decent coaches. Maradona, Sabella, Pekerman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Take it out via PM...or over a juice box.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hes 21, my bad. To say he's overrated is insane. Neymar is overrated, he went from Brazil to the weakest of the 5 major leagues in the world. Gotze is playing in the BUNDESLIGA and has way more world class experience. He's the future of Bayern. He is just a couple of months older than Neymar and he has done nothing major yet. He has never been the focal point of any team (despite playing for BVB and Bayern). Gotze isnt even a regular starter for Bayern and Neymar only needed 2 weeks to beat Pedro, Sanchez and Fabregas for the starting position!Also, La Liga is the weakest of the 5 major leagues? ROFL! Spain is a tougher place than playing for Bayern in the Bundesliga. The fact Barcelona has to face Atletico and Real twice a year is already harder than to beat 5-0 every other opponent in Germany.But I dont need to be having this discussion now. Return 5 years from now and see how foolish you will have look (just like in the Confederations Cup)...Bayern has way more competition than Barca (Pedro and Alexis?) There was never a doubt he wasnt gonna be a starter. Gotze won tge Bundesliga title, played in the UCL and made it to the final while being one of the two main players on that team. And just Cause Bayern beats all the teams doesn't make the league worse than that circus show La Liga. After those 3 teams the skill level falls off. Their are 5 bundesliga teams that are very good. Its much more competitive. We'll see in the World Cup who is the better of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Argentina's team could win the World Cup? Their defense is a bit iffy, but their offense...oh man. They're the Man City of international soccer. They have several outstanding attackers(Messi, Agüero, Tevez, Higuain, Lamela, Di Maria), but therit midfield and defense is shit and they never work with decent coaches. Maradona, Sabella, Pekerman...Zabaleta, Mascherano, and Garay are decent. But yea, I can't wait to see their offense though in the WC. Ahh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Bayern has way more competition than Barca (Pedro and Alexis?) There was never a doubt he wasnt gonna be a starter. Gotze won tge Bundesliga title, played in the UCL and made it to the final while being one of the two main players on that team. And just Cause Bayern beats all the teams doesn't make the league worse than that circus show La Liga. After those 3 teams the skill level falls off. Their are 5 bundesliga teams that are very good. Its much more competitive. We'll see in the World Cup who is the better of the two.What 5 teams? the current top 5 is Bayern, Leverkusen, BVB, Schalke and 'Gladbach.Bayern are up by 13 points for a reason - while BVB were great last season, injuries have ruined this season for them. And the others are either decent or just slightly above teams.Schalke lost 6-0 over 2 games to Chelsea, and Leverkusen also got hammered by Man utd to further prove my point.La liga at this moment is a stronger league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Bayern has way more competition than Barca (Pedro and Alexis?) There was never a doubt he wasnt gonna be a starter. Gotze won tge Bundesliga title, played in the UCL and made it to the final while being one of the two main players on that team. And just Cause Bayern beats all the teams doesn't make the league worse than that circus show La Liga. After those 3 teams the skill level falls off. Their are 5 bundesliga teams that are very good. Its much more competitive. We'll see in the World Cup who is the better of the two. What 5 teams? the current top 5 is Bayern, Leverkusen, BVB, Schalke and 'Gladbach.Bayern are up by 13 points for a reason - while BVB were great last season, injuries have ruined this season for them. And the others are either decent or just slightly above teams.Schalke lost 6-0 over 2 games to Chelsea, and Leverkusen also got hammered by Man utd to further prove my point.La liga at this moment is a stronger league.Are we talking EPL or Bundesliga? There are 4 Bundesliga teams in the final 16 of the UCL. The 4th place team in La Liga is Bilbao who finished 12th last year and haven't played in the UCL since 1998. The 5th place team, Villareal, was in the 2nd division of Spain last year. The other Spanish team that was in the UCL, Real Sociedad, got hammered in every game they played in Europe and had 1 point in group play. As a whole, Bundesliga>La Liga. There are more well rounded teams than in La Liga who have 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Take it out via PM...or over a juice box..We are only having fun, dont be so bitter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Martin Tyler is a shit commentator (and a twat)Real Madrid have horrifically underachieved as a football club given their finance, fan base and the fact Franco basically gave them the trophy every yearOscar will be a better player than HazardRoberto Martinez and Diego Simeone are in the top 8 coaches in the worldInter and AC Milan are not big clubs anymoreAthletic Bilbao don't get enough respect in the football world for their Basque only player policyEngland will win something in the next 20 yearsIan Dowie would have won twice as many trophies as Pep Guardiola with that barca team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Eusébio is mad overrated.As is Pele. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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