Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Henrique said: Actually I think he should be introduced in this team as soon as possible, with Zouma-Luiz-Cahill being the ideal back 3. Before last two games we had conceded 2 goals in 11 games, so it was difficult for Conte to change something at the defense. Now we conceded 4 goals in 2 games, and there were poor defending from Azpi in at least 2 of those goals, and thats not a big surprise, considering he is not a CB and never will be. Zouma is powerful CB and hes got the right pace for that position in the right of the defense. And you think Cahil has pace? Daves been solid enough this season but OK lets give him a go on LWB. But Id still upgrade Cahill out of the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think he might get considered in the next few games instead of Azpi but other than those goals Azpi has been as good as any defender in the league for me. I honestly don't see Zouma playing LCB either if Gaz gets dropped, he is a wreck with the ball, well maybe that's an overstatement but don't see him being used there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volfan89 97 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Would be shocked to see him not get a run out in the FA cup match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I think he might get considered in the next few games instead of Azpi but other than those goals Azpi has been as good as any defender in the league for me. I honestly don't see Zouma playing LCB either if Gaz gets dropped, he is a wreck with the ball, well maybe that's an overstatement but don't see him being used there yet. he's better than cahill on the ball, we saw that in midfield, didnt make any big errors, hit a few diagonal balls, just looks clumsy because of his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think its about time Zouma got his chance to get back into the starting eleven now.  He was imo our best cb before his injury, just hope it hasn't affected his way of playing and that he can adjust to Contes system in a good way. Bernard N Y Burgesson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 When you look at our defensive setup we need him. I dont know if anyone has realised and dont know if Conte did it on purpose but look. Alonso                Moses      Cahill   Luiz  Azpi This is our back 3/5 Now from left to right=== Height Decreases      Speed Increases The game against Spurs, both goals were conceded due to height issues(but not the only factor). If Zouma were playing were Azpi played we might no have conceded the second goal. Secondly, if Azpi were playing where Moses was we might not have conceded the first goal because as a natural defender he would have been well positioned and  D.Alli would have been ruled offside. Alonso                      Azpi         Cahill   Luiz   Zouma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Antonio Conte reveals Chelsea's January transfer plans: I have some ideas ANTONIO CONTE has some ideas of players he wants to bring to Stamford Bridge this month. Conte also admitted that Kurt Zouma's recovery means he doesn't see an urgent need to sign another centre-back this month. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/575981/Antonio-Conte-Chelsea-January-transfer-plans-gossip-rumours-Costa-Premier-League-news  Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Good to hear he'll be making his first start since returning from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Incredible to think that the injury happened 1 year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Good to hear he'll be making his first start since returning from injury.  5 minutes ago, milan.cech said: Incredible to think that the injury happened 1 year ago. Yes the lads got his weaknesses as do all the lads but I loved the lad pre injury and had big hopes for him in our future. I hope he takes Cahills spot eventually and he plays well with Luiz. But I still see Conte buying a as good a CB as he can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yes the lads got his weaknesses as do all the lads but I loved the lad pre injury and had big hopes for him in our future. I hope he takes Cahills spot eventually and he plays well with Luiz. But I still see Conte buying a as good a CB as he can find.He said he ain't buying one during this window. Hope WB's are on his agenda. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, LAM09 said: Â He said he ain't buying one during this window. Hope WB's are on his agenda. Â Yeah I saw. Hes got some decisions to make with Christensen and Ake coming back too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yeah I saw. Hes got some decisions to make with Christensen and Ake coming back too.Yep. We really don't need another CB, if all works out with the players currently on our books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, LAM09 said: Â Yep. We really don't need another CB, if all works out with the players currently on our books. Â hmmm Not sure about that one mate. With us going to Europe hopefully I THINK I'd like a more experienced more agressive CB back therre. I know Anderas has had alot of European experience these last couple of seasons but I'm still not 100% sure. Not that I wouldnt dislike seeing one of them back with us. But they both said they want to be starters and thats a toughie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 hmmm Not sure about that one mate. With us going to Europe hopefully I THINK I'd like a more experienced more agressive CB back therre. I know Anderas has had alot of European experience these last couple of seasons but I'm still not 100% sure. Not that I wouldnt dislike seeing one of them back with us. But they both said they want to be starters and thats a toughie.Cahill, Zouma, Ake, Luiz, Azpi & Christensen vying for three positions. Need to offload two at least to make buying an experienced CB at a good price reasonable. I personally hope Cahill is displaced at some point, as he HQ quota is the reason he's still an integral part IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Â Cahill, Zouma, Ake, Luiz, Azpi & Christensen vying for three positions. Need to offload two at least to make buying an experienced CB at a good price reasonable. I personally hope Cahill is displaced at some point, as he HQ quota is the reason he's still an integral part IMO. Â I'd personally like to see Dave tried as a LWB. He ticks all the right boxes. We are weak oin the left side with Eden/Alonso/Cahill so Dave would be great. If anything Id also like to see Andreas-Luiz-Happy and see how that went. I do think its a shame Andeas isnt a couple inchs taller amd 10lb more muscle but if anyone will get the best out of him its Conte. We sont have time to fuck about testing combinations copme the summer if he decides we do need to bring onew in from outside. Its something that should really be worked on now so thats my worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I'd personally like to see Dave tried as a LWB. He ticks all the right boxes. We are weak oin the left side with Eden/Alonso/Cahill so Dave would be great. If anything Id also like to see Andreas-Luiz-Happy and see how that went. I do think its a shame Andeas isnt a couple inchs taller amd 10lb more muscle but if anyone will get the best out of him its Conte. We sont have time to fuck about testing combinations copme the summer if he decides we do need to bring onew in from outside. Its something that should really be worked on now so thats my worry I like that backline too and I also like the idea of Dave as a wing back. He is an excellent crosser, rapid and would completely shut out any danger once it passes the halfway line. But Andreas is 6'2" and still growing. In England that is kinda tall. 10 lbs more muscle however and he would still be a skinny bastard :D, so that picture made me chuckle a bit. H Great to hear that we will have Kurt in contes plans. Really missed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I like that backline too and I also like the idea of Dave as a wing back. He is an excellent crosser, rapid and would completely shut out any danger once it passes the halfway line. But Andreas is 6'2" and still growing. In England that is kinda tall. 10 lbs more muscle however and he would still be a skinny bastard :D, so that picture made me chuckle a bit. H Great to hear that we will have Kurt in contes plans. Really missed him. Always thoughy he was 5'10" for some reason. But still think some bulk would come in handyy. Hes been good over there but he wasn't on top form with us pre season. And like the weight room has helped Eden out some it might help Andreas. But we will see what the Don makes of it all. Might do all of our heads in. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Unionjack said: Always thoughy he was 5'10" for some reason. But still think some bulk would come in handyy. Hes been good over there but he wasn't on top form with us pre season. And like the weight room has helped Eden out some it might help Andreas. But we will see what the Don makes of it all. Might do all of our heads in. I think you are confusing him with Ake who is indeed just 5'11 which will probably mean that we won't become a CB here.  I guess Andreas is already lifting. He looks exactly like I did with like 18 or 19 years. Overtrained and undernourished. At that age, with that amount of physical activity and body type you might need 6000+ clean calories per day to even get near a surplus which is required to build muscle. Sticking to such a diet plan requires extreme discipline and stomach volume most people that age still do not have which is the major reason most natural young lifters fail. Unionjack and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hope he comes back the same player some players struggle to be the same player after a really bad injury look at luke Shaw for example he hasn't been same player after his awful injury Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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