CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I remember when we signed Marin rumours appeared in the morning and it was announced by the afternoon. Recent transfer rumours that drag on in our case tend to not happen e.g. Falcao, Cavani, Hulk, Fellani (Phew)Can't really compare the Marin transfer with this, tbh, though. For starters the profiles of the players are completely different. Plus, we signed Marin in something like March or April so naturally not a lot of media sources picked up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well this has escalated quickly...I swear yesterday there wasn't even any rumors about him and now the general consensus is that we've agreed with him? Matic would be a great signing because he would give Jose the dynamism that he's been seeking in the pivot while still being very good on the ball and an excellent passer unlike Ramires and Luiz. Ideally we should have made this signing in the summer, but if the quoted 20m price is correct then I don't think we're paying an inflated price for him at all. But I very much doubt it'll be done as soon as Tuesday like the rumors are claiming. It's still early in the window and the negotiations are likely to drag on. And one of the positive's are that we are not sighning Guarin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 To be fair most of the player signed for us are the result of long speculation and most don't come off anyway(Falcao,Cavani, Aguero, Silva, Fellaini...etc). The only few surprises transfers that did happen without us knowing were Oscar, Hazard and Willian which appeared out of no where and really unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Can't really compare the Marin transfer with this, tbh, though. For starters the profiles of the players are completely different. Plus, we signed Marin in something like March or April so naturally not a lot of media sources picked up on it. There were reports about us interested in Matic for at least a month. Di Marzio said its Guarin or Matic for us for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 People do realise we're not going to get a WC striker in this window right? Unless you lot are desperate for another Demba Ba.LB, CM and ST are our three areas of weakness. At least we're going to fix one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Won't happen as fast as we all think. I hope we get him around 20-25mil, benfica didn't qualify for champs lge, they'll take it.How will luiz feel about this lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Won't happen as fast as we all think. I hope we get him around 20-25mil, benfica didn't qualify for champs lge, they'll take it.How will luiz feel about this lolrammy said he wants matic here. luiz loves rammy so it will be all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If there is a sale, Benfica HAVE to post the transaction on the Lisbon stock exchange first - it's a legal requirement.So the first acknowledgement of a potential deal will be posted there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There were reports about us interested in Matic for at least a month. Di Marzio said its Guarin or Matic for us for some time.Yeah but there wasn't anything concrete that I was aware off. We're linked with a dozen players everyday by the papers. Doesn't mean much. It's when there are a bunch of rumors from more reliable sources that you feel that something is about to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hope its just bullshit. He was a Chelsea player, then was involved in David Luiz deal. Now we just buy him back for 20m...it makes David Luiz the most expensive CB of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah but there wasn't anything concrete that I was aware off. We're linked with a dozen players everyday by the papers. Doesn't mean much. It's when there are a bunch of rumors from more reliable sources that you feel that something is about to happen. Not always, especially not with us it seems. Many times in the near future we're hearing about the concrete stuff only after its almost a done deal (well we dont know if thats the case yet..). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 For me those guys are just telling everybody they dont know what they are doing as long as wisely spending money is a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hope its just bullshit. He was a Chelsea player, then was involved in David Luiz deal. Now we just buy him back for 20m...it makes David Luiz the most expensive CB of all time. Matic wasnt worth that much during the exchange for Luiz, hence us buying Matic for any given sum has no effect on the value of Luiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If there is a sale, Benfica HAVE to post the transaction on the Lisbon stock exchange first - it's a legal requirement.So the first acknowledgement of a potential deal will be posted there.Shame it is in Portuguese, English would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Matic wasnt worth that much during the exchange for Luiz, hence us buying Matic for any given sum has no effect on the value of Luiz.Thanks for thanks for enlightening me, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well Barcelona bought back Fabregas for 35m, Madrid bought back a few youngsters and their combined prices are probably also around 30-50m, Dortmund bought back Reus for like 17-20m and these are all big clubs So at least we could join them in this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I refuse to believe all these rumours until it's been confirmed that Spurs have paid for his flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hope its just bullshit. He was a Chelsea player, then was involved in David Luiz deal. Now we just buy him back for 20m...it makes David Luiz the most expensive CB of all time.No. Just because your lottery ticket was a winning one, it doesn't mean you bought the most expensive lottery ticket of all time. The value then and now have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_President 404 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hope its just bullshit. He was a Chelsea player, then was involved in David Luiz deal. Now we just buy him back for 20m...it makes David Luiz the most expensive CB of all time.Not sure if you're trolling with that comment, but I'll bite.I don't know Matic as a player but people seem to rate him and if Jose/the scouting network thinks he's a good fit then why not go for him when CM is a glaring weakness for us? For the sake of pride/embarrassment? That is bullshit. We have to be ruthless to win, and that means not caring about what people think about us when we chuck a player away for peanuts and then buy him back for 5 x the price, hell even 10x the price -- it doesn't matter. I do not remember anyone believing Matic would reach this level and he has done amazingly well to improve so vastly that we are interested in bringing him back. Who cares about the effect it has on DL's price? Ultimately, if he improves our team and does not have a detrimental effect on our finances then we should go for it; it really isn't an issue that he was once a Chelsea player or that it would make DL such an expensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We are buying Matic because he is the best DM available out there and I don't object to that move in any way.Our defence improved significantly and we conceded like 1 goal in last 6 matches including Arsenal and Liverpool and people feel offended when I say that defensive midfielder won't improve us dramatically.About Matic he has his moments of brilliance and his pass range is better than Mikel but he ain't creative enough to solve our CM issues by himself or even with Ramires.Matic is destoryer way more than a playmaker and Rami needs to run in order to pass long distance.With two of them, imo, we have two central midfielders with ordinary passing abilities but nothing spectacular.We will need better than that when new striker comes and to beat City in 38 games . ImoI wonder what happened with MVG but even he fit could make better central midfield with Matic.Out of players out there Rakitic would make good combo with Matic. He is quality CM who plays alongside destroyer. Never mind, just because we are buying him due to his qualities as DM, does that really mean that he is what we need most atm?Jose said in public that we need striker but we aren't buying one. Because DM is our priority?Who can be sure that Jose thinks Matic is all it takes? He is not alergic to CMs, he bought Modric.The fact is we didn't have proper DM, CM or striker and who knows who will we buy next.I just tried to explain my opinion further to people who found it outrageous .No need to enter in discussion with me we are all entitled to our own opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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