LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: If you don't agree with someone then debate it out, otherwise do not shot personal insults around please. I'm not the one saying someone else is a clown, who doesn't understand football. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, LondonsFinest said: I'm not the one saying someone else is a clown, who doesn't understand football. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. That's my point, everyone is entitled to an opinion but throwing personal insults around won't happen around here. It wasn't you so need to worry yourself, but this is not just in this thread but across the board. Dead simple. LondonsFinest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 How are you 6ft5 and not dominant in the air? He's so painfully average in the air for a guy his size. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Its very hard for me to get my head round that 2 seasons ago we was praising him being the best DM going and now I'm finding it difficult to understand his thinking sometime. Whether his nose has been put out of place with N'Golo joining and getting all the praise or he just needs a different kind of setup/formation/partner? I really dont know. I really like the lad and chatted with him a short time but theres no room for sentiment in team selection and I personally wouldn't gamble on him next season and hopefully we can find a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted April 7, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 7, 2017 58 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Its very hard for me to get my head round that 2 seasons ago we was praising him being the best DM going and now I'm finding it difficult to understand his thinking sometime. Whether his nose has been put out of place with N'Golo joining and getting all the praise or he just needs a different kind of setup/formation/partner? I really dont know. I really like the lad and chatted with him a short time but theres no room for sentiment in team selection and I personally wouldn't gamble on him next season and hopefully we can find a better option. That's because the praise was exaggerated (I see the same happening with Kanté). All the good is perceived as great and all the bad is ignored. While I never rated him as the best, I too got very excited and thought he was a top defensive midfielder in 2014. But maybe he was at the time. He was playing really good football (domestically anyway). It happens. Playing at the maximum of your capabilities for a certain period of time. But if you take off the blinders and remain critical at all times, you can still notice flaws. And the severity of those flaws will help you to truly judge the quality of the player. I thought Matic started the season off well enough but his form tailed more than a minute ago. He's played his part in Chelsea's current position but mostly because of the skillset he offers. He's not good enough. The Skipper, Peace., kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, DYC. said: That's because the praise was exaggerated (I see the same happening with Kanté). All the good is perceived as great and all the bad is ignored. While I never rated him as the best, I too got very excited and thought he was a top defensive midfielder in 2014. But maybe he was at the time. He was playing really good football (domestically anyway). It happens. Playing at the maximum of your capabilities for a certain period of time. But if you take off the blinders and remain critical at all times, you can still notice flaws. And the severity of those flaws will help you to truly judge the quality of the player. I thought Matic started the season off well enough but his form tailed more than a minute ago. He's played his part in Chelsea's current position but mostly because of the skillset he offers. But he's not good enough. Yeah you're right tho I dont think so about N'Golo. I think he will only get better. Most times I watch us I'm lucky enough to see them live home or away and /I think I watch it live with a different mindset than on the telly where I do tend to be more critical. Whereas at the ground I try hard not to be critical as it just goes to spoiling a good day out. I wait till I come here to whine bitch and moan when necessary haha DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm pretty sure Conte isn't happy with the midfield with the substitutions he's making. And if he rated Matic he'd have started him. Who do you guys think we can realistically sign in midfield in the summer to replace Matic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 16 hours ago, nono said: Who do you guys think we can realistically sign in midfield in the summer to replace Matic ? Tielemans, Naby Keïta, Kessie, Nainggolan, Bakayoko I think we have good chance at signing any  4 them players I think Nainggolan will be hard to sign tho cause he loves life in Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socur Toxanarosa 145 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I think Bakayoko will come, but because we need another midfielder with more games to play next season, Matic isn't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 6:45 AM, DYC. said: How are you 6ft5 and not dominant in the air? He's so painfully average in the air for a guy his size. Haha, yeah he doesn't seem to have a big enough 'leap' in him. Just about wins headers with his sheer height alone. I've come to accept that watching other 'big' players...another candidate who is average in the air for his size, is Lukaku. Also, after watching Drogba and JT for so many years, a lot of players look pretty average when it comes to headers these days Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Another poor game from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsbeauj 4 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 hours ago, nono said: Another poor game from him. How so? He made maybe 1 or 2 tackles that didn't come good, aside from that he was solid all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socur Toxanarosa 145 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, itsbeauj said: How so? He made maybe 1 or 2 tackles that didn't come good, aside from that he was solid all game. Doesn't matter, they already decided he was trash before the game even begun. nono, Clockwork, Chelsea? and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsbeauj 4 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said: Doesn't matter, they already decided he was trash before the game even begun. That doesn't even make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socur Toxanarosa 145 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 5 hours ago, itsbeauj said: That doesn't even make sense. It's not supposed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I thought Wilshere was giving him the run around in the first half. I just don't like him tbh. I've seen enough of him at this point to make this judgement. If we play him against the top teams in the Champions League we're going to get crushed. Which is why I feel he has to be replaced. We are supposedly spending 200m pounds this summer. Which positions are we going to spend that money ? When people say we need new wingers there are those on here that say Willian and Pedro are amazing and shouldn't be replaced. When a new midfielder is mentioned then everyone is happy with Matic and Fabregas and don't want him gone. New wingbacks ? Nah, Moses/Alonso are amazing.  If this were really the case our team would be up there with Barcelona/Bayern right now but it isn't. To me it seems CM and RW are the most obvious positions Conte will upgrade, given that he isn't one to make changes to the starting lineup but lately he's been switching between Willian/Pedro and Matic/Fabregas which tells me he isn't really happy with what we have. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said: Doesn't matter, they already decided he was trash before the game even begun. That's  true. I've seen enough of him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 I have nothing against matic he played a big part wining us the league under Mourinho but I think it's time for an upgrade to partner Kante Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socur Toxanarosa 145 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I have no problems fielding Matic against anyone, i had with Mikel. I don't think CM is a top priority for upgrade, Matic/Fabregas is a good set of options to complement Kanté depending on the game, of course we can't only have 3 reliables CM's for next season, but they're pretty fine starters in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said: I have no problems fielding Matic against anyone, i had with Mikel. I don't think CM is a top priority for upgrade, Matic/Fabregas is a good set of options to complement Kanté depending on the game, of course we can't only have 3 reliables CM's for next season, but they're pretty fine starters in my view. I agree, all 3 can stay, but a 4th quality option is badly needed imo. Bakayoko, Matic, Kante and Fabregas would look really solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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