Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 But they can be so effective, especially at top teams where the opposition will likely congest the center. Just look at how well they have worked for united over the years. Depends on your tactics. In a team like United they're necessary (though United always use just one traditional winger, AFAIK) but in a team like Bayern that uses its inverted wingers as a sort of playmakers that play the through balls from the wings traditional wingers wouldn't even be half as effective as their inverted counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Depends on your tactics. In a team like United they're necessary (though United always use just one traditional winger, AFAIK) but in a team like Bayern that uses its inverted wingers as a sort of playmakers that play the through balls from the wings traditional wingers wouldn't even be half as effective as their inverted counterparts.Mind you Bayern have enough quality to play and retrieve the ball so high up the pitch that their fullbacks can play the of the traditional wingers. But if you noticed in the second half against us, Ribery cut inside less often and tried to put in much more crosses with him sometimes exchanging positions with Shaqiri when he came on so that the later can provide the crosses. You always need someone to play the role of the winger and provide width when you're chasing a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Mind you Bayern have enough quality to play and retrieve the ball so high up the pitch that their fullbacks can play the of the traditional wingers. But if you noticed in the second half against us, Ribery cut inside less often and tried to put in much more crosses with him sometimes exchanging positions with Shaqiri when he came on so that the later can provide the crosses. You always need someone to play the role of the winger and provide width when you're chasing a result. True that; I used Bayern just as an example though, most quality teams are set up similarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.bo 48 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Bring back Robben,hope we get a world class speedy winger .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I feel he will be a big success for Vitesse, he had a very good footballing education at Porto. Their players get good exposure in Europe as well as a decent standard of league football so he should cope pretty well at Vitesse. Probably be one of their better players this year. Not saying hes going to have a future here for sure due to the overload of players we have in the band of three but he could become what Shaun Wright-Phillips should have been for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Bring back Robben,hope we get a world class speedy winger ....Ever heard of this kid called Eden Hazard? kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripji 16 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 This guy is gud. Scored a cracker withim munites of introduction in African zone WC qualifier against Egypt. Great lad,gud signing and a player with bright future. kellzfresh and Sir Mikel OBE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr123 167 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Forgot this guy even existed. Anyone know how he's getting on at Vitesse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachikethas 1,154 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Scored a penalty vitesse won 3-1.at least our B team are on first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I actually watched their game yesterday to calm myself down, Atsu was good, he's strong and quick, but his decision making at times let him down. The same goes for Patrick. Piazon was excellent, a season in Holland is doing him the world of good. Kakuta got a few minutes on the pitch as well, he probably touched the ball twice before the ref blew the final whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 apparently he has been playing centre mid this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 apparently he has been playing centre mid this seasonYup. Doing well from there from what I hear and even got a himself a few goals from pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I saw him out wide as well. He's quick and strong, he might make it here I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueChelseaBlue 105 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I saw him out wide as well. He's quick and strong, he might make it here I think. Only time will tell. Looks a very decent player so far. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Just gave the assist for the 1-2 Psv - Vitesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think he's made for the Premier League, I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 To bad we allready are stacked with am's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 To bad we allready are stacked with am'sit says he played centre mid today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remains of the day 564 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Very impressed with him, he had a fantastic game. He did miss a very good chance but also gave the assist for the second goal (see below). http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18504b_mike-havenaar_sportInteresting that he's been playing in centre midfield. I wonder if that has anything to do with how Chelsea plans on using him? If at all they have any particular plans for him..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 it says he played centre mid todayYeah, but isn't he a am? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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