Zoro 151 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Schurrle is very much that sort of player. Schurrle had 3.2 2 dribbles a game last year. Besides, you can't build squads with backing up every sort of player. Do we need a backup for a fast, defensively sound midfielder in case Ramires is hurt? This is especially when you have holes and lack of backups all over the pitch. If stats meant anything then Torres is the best striker in the world after winning the golden boot in both the Euro's and Confederations cup. Schurrle is unproven in the premier league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 If stats meant anything then Torres is the best striker in the world after winning the golden boot in both the Euro's and Confederations cup. Schurrle is unproven in the premier league.What the hell are you talking about? Torres had a few good games against crappy teams. You can't judge a players' ability on those stats. Schurrle has had seasons worth of play where has shown the ability to dribble. It's called sample size. Ask 10 voters they're likely voting patterns is pointless. Ask 1,000 and it's meaningful. You don't seem to see the difference. 3.2 dribbles a game means that Schurrle can dribble. You said we don't have anyone to replace Hazard who can dribble and Schurrle plays the same position and can dribble and we clarly do. Yes, he's unproven in the Premier League, but he's proven in a much better league than Willian.The signing of Willian itself could make sense if it weren't for the insane cost (basically about double what he should cost), It would also make sense if, in the last 2 years, we also hadn't have spent 18M on Schurrle and 25M on Oscar and 16M on KDB and Moses. This what people don't seem to understand. No team is going to regularly play 6 attacking midfielders so Willian will play instead of Kevin De Bruyne or Schurrle. Last year, we had 3 regular AMs and Moses who barely played. Our 4th AM almost never played. Now, we've added 3 more players to the position? Let's say we have 50 meaningful games this season. (not including early domestic cup or games in CL once you've already advanced sort of games) That's 150 starts overall for attacking midfielders. Let's say Mata starts 40, Hazard 40, Oscar 35, That's 35 starts for Schurrle, De Bruyne, and Willian which is nothing. Will the team be better with Willian getting those minutes over De Bruyne? Maybe, maybe not, but it's insane to me to spend 32M pounds plus high wages for what is, at most, a very slight upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Why do people keep saying he'll be on the right wing? Could've sworn his most effective and natural position was LW? Hence Spuds bringing him in as Bale's replacement.I think Hazard will be on the right with Willian on the left.Near post op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 i think the bad blood between Scum and us was evident two summers ago, when Levy refused to sell Luka Modric to Chelsea in the face of a £40m offer and the midfielder's desire to go. Abramovich does not like Levy, while there is friction between Mourinho and Villas-Boas...So,,it's revenge though??? Get the fuck off scum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Willian "I always dreamed of playing for Tottenham under Jose Mourinho at Anfield in a Manchester City shirt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Willian isn't even a pure RW. He's played far more at LW and AM than at RW. To call him a pure RW is like calling Hazard a pure RW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Willian isn't even a pure RW. He's played far more at LW and AM than at RW. To call him a pure RW is like calling Hazard a pure RW.The other thing I don't understand is that if we could hijack deals, why not hijack Jovetic or Navas who fit with natural needs more (natural RM and a striker), were decently priced, and were going to a team who is a more likely contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 So...LW: Hazard \ SchurrleCAM: Mata \ Oscar RW: KDB \ MosesSo where does Willian fit in? From what I've seen he's more of a CAM or LW, not a RW. So he's gonna be competing with Hazard Mata and Oscar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The other thing I don't understand is that if we could hijack deals, why not hijack Jovetic or Navas who fit with natural needs more (natural RM and a striker), were decently priced, and were going to a team who is a more likely contender. What about hijacking Fernandinho or Witsel (last season) instead of another attacking player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The other thing I don't understand is that if we could hijack deals, why not hijack Jovetic or Navas who fit with natural needs more (natural RM and a striker), were decently priced, and were going to a team who is a more likely contender. Yeah, those would've made a lot more sense. I don't get the deal either but apparently you're not allowed to complain about it because Mourinho's approved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=exo5oEy1uMw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Eto'o's agent, Vigorelli—"I spoke to Jose, who was willing to give Samuel a one-year contract, but Chelsea are waiting for Wayne Rooney."Eto'o's agent, Vigorelli—"Mourinho only has him [Rooney] in mind & is waiting for the situation with Man United to find a breakthrough." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This is what I think will be our side should Willian sign...Employ a 4-2-3-1 ... Torres or Lukaku to play up front, Willian sitting as a centre forward, Hazard and Mata both play as attacking midfielders on either side, with Oscar dropping to a deeper role alongside either Ramires or Lampard. The problem is with that, is that this is a strong side... where do you put people like Schurrle, Van Ginkel or De Bruyne?? I don't think Hazard and Mata are rotational players.. they are indispensable game winners, and that's where the headache will lie for Mourinho. As a result of this, Mikel, Moses and probably Ba will all leave, and De Bruyne will.. at the last possible minute.. agree to a loan move somewhere.And we fight tooth and nail to get Rooney.. if not, then it's not the end of the world, as we will already have Torres, Willian, Schurrle and Lukaku as possible forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyker 27 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 we are so Evilll !! We snatch other club main target ha ha ha!!! #fck spuds# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Schurrle is very much that sort of player. Schurrle had 3.2 2 dribbles a game last year. Besides, you can't build squads with backing up every sort of player. Do we need a backup for a fast, defensively sound midfielder in case Ramires is hurt? This is especially when you have holes and lack of backups all over the pitch. Stats doesn't tell the whole story. I talked about this before but Schurrle and Willian are completely different players. Schurrle played for us in preseason and now 2 PL games, how many times has he dribbled someone? now just watch one single game of Willian and you'll see him doing step-overs and leaving people for dead all over the place. Big difference.Willian isn't even a pure RW. He's played far more at LW and AM than at RW. To call him a pure RW is like calling Hazard a pure RW.He plays there a lot with Anzhi, like every single game, he spends more than half the time on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NishC300 1,865 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 LOL from the tottenham forum: Chelsea are a scumbag club with filth like John Terry and assholes like Ashley Cole at the helm. I actually think that I do hate them more than Arsenal because they are the lowest of the lows and they hate us for no ****ing reason. At least there is history and classic passionate rivalry between us and Arsenal but with Chelsea it is a meaningless, cruel hatred where they would love to see us come to harm! The way AVB and Rafa Benitez were treated there was horrendous. Mourinho is a smug **** with no class but the fans still suck his dick and eat whatever shit he feeds them. A recent example would be Chelsea fans claiming he is a tactical genius for taking his foot off the pedal against Hull. If that was Benitez the fans would be like "wtf only 2-0 against Hull!! **** you Benitez!". Terrible club with glory hunting equally terrible support.Yea we'll see what he says about Mourinho after he kicks their ass at the Lane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Sp*rs fans should just shut the fuck up and carry on watching their 5th placed side playing on channel 5.That's where they end up every other season... winning absolutely fuck all and their fans seeing their filth of a side being dragged along by Gareth Bale, which he won't be doing for much longer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 willian aint a pure RW but he is good with both feets. still he mainly played on the left wing for Donetzk (and also against us). but I think he could do well on the RW too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 LW is harzard's,he's much more effective there,or did you guys forget about his RW performances last year?everyone here was crying to put him back on the LW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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