Rekin 835 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 touché!!!unlike most of you guys, I have never been impressed by Oscar. He might be a talented lad with lots of potential to develop into one of the best attacking mids in this football game, but he's just simply not the type of player I enjoy watching. My point is - although this team has tons of attacking mids, there is a spot that needs to be filled, and that's the RW. Moses is the only natural player that can play there. And maybe KDB, but he is more of an AMC. That's why I think, and Jose thinks,too (if the rumours are true), that Willian can fill in that spot. You can say what you want about the transfer fee, or his wages, or his hair, but you simply can't say he isn't a top class footballer. I've watched this lad week in, week out since his arrival in Europe (every Shakhtar's game is broadcasted live in Romania because Lucescu is coaching them) and he is a beast. Dribbling, first touch, passing, technique, creativity, pace = Level World Class. He can play as a LW, AMC and RW, too. You can't say he is a LW, or an AMC, just because now he's a RW, in 10 minutes he'll be on the left wing, then in the center and so on. He is a versatile player. Since his arrival in Anzhi, he has player more on the right wing for them, and also in the center, as a playmaker. We wouldn't just sign a world class footballer, but we would also sign a guy with personality, a leader.The game against Villa showed we desperately need a guy on the right wing. Except Hazard, there wasn't anyone else that can create something out of nowhere. Chelsea simply didn't hurt Villa on the wings, especially on the right wing.I can only imagine:Hazard <------> Mata <------> Willianone of the most dynamic line of attacking midfielders in modern football.And one more thing: Rooney = £40mil transfer fee + £15-16mil per year wages Willian + Eto'o = £32mil + £4-5mil transfer fee and £4-5mil per year + £8-9mil per year wagesI'm an avid fan of Rooney and I'd love him playing for Chelsea, but if he won't end up here, I'd stick with Willian and Eto'o.Excellent, just the post I was waiting for.How is he in terms of tracking back though? I can not help to feel that it is an important characteristic of any wingers we would be interested in atm, they have to be able to contribute in the defense.I think Mou is going for a starting eleven that containsHazard - Oscar - Willianif the transfer goes through. Schurrle, Mata and KDB would provide excellent rotation options for each of the positions and we would finally reach a balance there that has been lacking for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose M 140 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 ^^^ People already putting Willian in their teams! Ahead of KDB to HAHA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 ^^^ People already putting Willian in their teams! Ahead of KDB to HAHA....We're not going to buy a player for £30 million on a bench warmer. Simple as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 People who say its a stupid move (well... everyone almost), what if Jose wants to push Oscar to the pivot? would it still be stupid? imo no.--Ramires-Oscar----Willian--Mata--Hazard---Rooney/Eto'o/X----What would you say about that?!I think, if Oscar moves deeper, KDB could not be enough in Jose's eyes and if we could bring in another option, such talented option, why not?If thats the case off course Moses and Mikel are leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 False nine??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Excellent, just the post I was waiting for.How is he in terms of tracking back though? I can not help to feel that it is an important characteristic of any wingers we would be interested in atm, they have to be able to contribute in the defense.I think Mou is going for a starting eleven that containsHazard - Oscar - Willianif the transfer goes through. Schurrle, Mata and KDB would provide excellent rotation options for each of the positions and we would finally reach a balance there that has been lacking for a while. Exactly. You understand what mourinho used to do, very compact in the center and wingers with pace down the wings........Gudjohnson/drogbaJoecole. Lamps. Robben .......Makalele - EssienRamires is playing more calm recently and begining to remind me of makalele, and we never even had a DLP in the first place. At that time, drogba wasn't world class, so we were average up front but we still stomped the league with 95points.......Torres/LukakuHazard - oscar/mata - willian......Ramires - Lamps/MVGSee the similarity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Does anyone have any concrete proof that Jose wants to play Oscar deeper? Did he try it out in pre season or is it just the Internet putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with eleventy million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Tottenham face losing Willian transfer race to Chelsea after Roman Abramovich gets personally involvedhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-chelsea-transfers-willian-race-2208137 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't understand why we can't just spend the 32m on a striker or CDM...Lewandowski, De Rossi anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't understand why we can't just spend the 32m on a striker or CDM...Lewandowski, De Rossi anyone?We can... no one said we wouldn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 False nine???Only thing that is likely to be false is this rumor.Best thing about this thread is that link to the Tottenham forum. Comedy gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't understand why we can't just spend the 32m on a striker or CDM...Lewandowski, De Rossi anyone?Why do people keep mentioning Lewandowski as a solution?He's off to Bayern next season and he just got a nice pay-rise to stay motivated at Dortmund this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 We're not going to buy a player for £30 million on a bench warmer. Simple as.That is exactly what i don't understand..... Why are we buying a player for a position that we are very rich in ? This is a weird transfer and it doesn't make sense. I think they might think that we need a player who will open up that right wing because Oscar comes in field too much ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 People who say its a stupid move (well... everyone almost), what if Jose wants to push Oscar to the pivot? would it still be stupid? imo no.--Ramires-Oscar----Willian--Mata--Hazard---Rooney/Eto'o/X----What would you say about that?!I think, if Oscar moves deeper, KDB could not be enough in Jose's eyes and if we could bring in another option, such talented option, why not?If thats the case off course Moses and Mikel are leaving.If Oscar is pushed into the pivot then it might not be such a bad move.but then what will we do about Moses, Schurrle and KDB?Make Schurrle a CF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Chelsea hijack Spurs' Willian dealhttp://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/232201.html?CMP=OTC-RSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 £32million is a cheap price to troll spurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 That is exactly what i don't understand..... Why are we buying a player for a position that we are very rich in ? This is a weird transfer and it doesn't make sense. I think they might think that we need a player who will open up that right wing because Oscar comes in field too much ? but doesn't Willian drift inside a lot too?That's what I saw when we played Shakhtar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christacinto 137 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 i just spent the past 45 minutes watching videos of the player and really; MIND-BOGGLING signing if it happens, so hope it's true! We would have a Hazard-quality player on the right flank,with our existing players it would make an attacking midfield to drool over: STHazard (Schurrle) Mata (KDB) Willian (SCH/KDB) Oscar (Lampard) Ramires (Essien) DEFENCEJust think of the devestating implications if we add Rooney then to our squad. This signing might effectively mean the end of Mikel and Moses though... Definitely sad for Moses! We're going to win the league-league-league leagleagleague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drog.ba 239 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 If Oscar is pushed into the pivot then it might not be such a bad move.but then what will we do about Moses, Schurrle and KDB?Make Schurrle a CF?Probably mean Moses getting forced out, or getting less game time, then it leaves Willian/Hazard and Schrulle for the left wing and Willian/Hazard and KDB for the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Probably mean Moses getting forced out, or getting less game time, then it leaves Willian/Hazard and Schrulle for the left wing and Willian/Hazard and KDB for the right.yea....but we could invest this money on more serious issues in our squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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