Vesper 31,105 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, eemanyooel said: That's the only worrying part of the squad...I don't want to see us be the lowest scoring team in the top 6 next season...I hope we can bring in a goal scoring forward or attacker... At this point, the only player I see coming in is possibly Vecino, who is so not a scorer. Maybe a panic/consolation signing (he is free, which is our preferred price for most signings these days) of Bernard. Willian is going nowhere, Real have said the £100m dual buy story was (of course) bullshit. The Martial swap is a self-delusional projection of my own wishes. I doubt we will even be able to sell Drinkwater (unless Palace loses the plot and sprays 30m quid our way) or Bakayoko (Milan has said no, Sevilla dont have the cash to meet our valuation) for anywhere near a price the board will agree to. We are 80% probably just going to let Courtois's contract wind down and lose him on a free next summer. I predict big issues goals scoring and with LB, when Emerson is not playing. EPL and EL teams are going to so exploit Alonso slowness and lack of defensive skills. Players like Salah, Mahrez, Sterling, Zaha, Felipe Anderson, etc will open him up like a cheap tin of tuna, The board has zero ambition, and I really think the club may be in the process of being sold. I hope I am pleasantly surprised, but I see nothing going on at present to make that an outcome. The best we can hope for is Sarri to work magic with what he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: At this point, the only player I see coming in is possibly Vecino, who is so not a scorer. Maybe a panic/consolation signing (he is free, which is our preferred price for most signings these days) of Bernard. Willian is going nowhere, Real have said the £100m dual buy story was (of course) bullshit. The Martial swap is a self-delusional projection of my own wishes. I doubt we will even be able to sell Drinkwater (unless Palace loses the plot and sprays 30m quid our way) or Bakayoko (Milan has said no, Sevilla dont have the cash to meet our valuation) for anywhere near a price the board will agree to. We are 80% probably just going to let Courtois's contract wind down and lose him on a free next summer. I predict big issues goals scoring and with LB, when Emerson is not playing. EPL and EL teams are going to so exploit Alonso slowness and lack of defensive skills. Players like Salah, Mahrez, Sterling, Zaha, Felipe Anderson, etc will open him up like a cheap tin of tuna, The board has zero ambition, and I really think the club may be in the process of being sold. I hope I am pleasantly surprised, but I see nothing going on at present to make that an outcome. The best we can hope for is Sarri to work magic with what he has. Vecino will not happen...anything can happen between now and close of the summer transfer window...though m not expecting anything...but let's save the moan till the start of the season or close of the summer transfer window... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: Vecino will not happen...anything can happen between now and close of the summer transfer window...though m not expecting anything...but let's save the moan till the start of the season or close of the summer transfer window... I really think it will. Inter already has an overload of CMF's (Vecino, Radja Nainggolan, Marcelo Brozovic, Roberto Gagliardini (who I rate higher than Vecino), Borja Valero) and are on verge of signing Arturo Vidal from Bayern. They also have agreed fully with Atletico Madrid on RB Sime Vrsaljko. https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-accordo-totale-per-vrsaljko-le-cifre-delloperazione They need the cash, and Sarri is obsessed with Vecino for some reason. Roman and Granny spent the Inter post game discussing his transfer. I think it goes down (and I think is a waste). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, Vesper said: I really think it will. Inter already has an overload of CMF's (Vecino, Radja Nainggolan, Marcelo Brozovic, Roberto Gagliardini (who I rate higher than Vecino), Borja Valero) and are on verge of signing Arturo Vidal from Bayern. They also have agreed fully with Atletico Madrid on RB Sime Vrsaljko. https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-accordo-totale-per-vrsaljko-le-cifre-delloperazione They need the cash, and Sarri is obsessed with Vecino for some reason. Roman and Granny spent the Inter post game discussing his transfer. I think it goes down (and I think is a waste). It won't happen...Read the club told Sarri the midfielders we have is enough for the season....Inter should can sell their vecino else where...it won't happen same also Higuain...amount Juventus is asking for him is outrageous while they ain't ready to sell Rugani...so Vecino won't happen unless Bakayoko and Drinkwater moves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: It won't happen...Read the club told Sarri the midfielders we have is enough for the season....Inter should can sell their vecino else where...it won't happen same also Higuain...amount Juventus is asking for him is outrageous while they ain't ready to sell Rugani...so Vecino won't happen unless Bakayoko and Drinkwater moves... I am hoping that Baka and Drinkwater ARE sold, just starting to think it may not happen for both. It's a 50/50 I think, but as soon as one is gone, I really think they close out Vecino. The most consistent number (price-wise) I have seen Inter wants is €30m (£26.7m). I cannot see that being a deal breaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: I am hoping that Baka and Drinkwater ARE sold, just starting to think it may not happen for both. It's a 50/50 I think, but as soon as one is gone, I really think they close out Vecino. The most consistent number (price-wise) I have seen Inter wants is €30m (£26.7m). I cannot see that being a deal breaker Even at that then RLC will wanna move due to game time....signing vecino will shift him down the pecking order which I think will not do not to affect or distort his development....the only player the club won't mind doing that to RLC is SMS which I am sure will not happen due to his price tag.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, eemanyooel said: Even at that then RLC will wanna move due to game time....signing vecino will shift him down the pecking order which I think will not do not to affect or distort his development....the only player the club won't mind doing that to RLC is SMS which I am sure will not happen due to his price tag.... I am not saying this is a good idea, I have been against the Vecino deal from the beginning, having watched him play a lot compared to (apparently, given the reactions) many here. Vecino is not being signed for the Barkely/RLC role. He is so not an AMF and goalscorer. I see him as a Uruguayan Drinkwater. Maybe not quite that bad, but ffs, they are/were literally 20 other CMF's in the £25 to £35m range who would be far far better for us to sign (or could have signed, but now already snatched.) Leon Goretzka (should have signed him last summer (I have wanted him for years), he left on a FREE this year to Bayern, and he is MILES better than Vecino, lierally 2 different planets) Roberto Gagliardini Inter Milan (would take him over Vecino is a flash, he scored against us a few days ago) Houssem Aouar Lyon Jean Michaël Seri (Fulham stole him for £27m) Geoffrey Kondogbia Valencia Mateo Kovacic RM (probably above this budget limit, not sure) Lorenzo Pellegrini Roma Kevin Strootman Roma Tanguy Ndombélé Lyon (my number one choice) Nicolò Barella Cagliari Bryan Cristante Roma stole him for £22m from Atalanta, miles beyond Vecino Dennis Praet Sampdoria Fabián Ruiz Napoli stole him from a great little 2017-18 Real Betis team for £27m Giacomo Bonaventura AC Milan Yuri Tielemans Monaco Manu Trigueros Villarreal (a poor mans Fabregas, great value player) Amadou Haidara RB Salzburg superb 20yo CMF Thomas Delaney Borussia Dortmund was superb for Denmark in WC, rock solid player, same age as Vecino Jordan Veretout Fiorentina Max Meyer wild card, no team, so a free, let Schalke contract wind down, potentially world class, needs to get out of Germany, where pressure was insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Willian speaks to Brazilian press and changes everything on Chelsea transfer In an interview with Brazilian TV show Esporte Espetacular this Sunday, the player has claimed that he’s not moving away from London in the current transfer window. “No, I’m back to England. I’m very happy at Chelsea. I’m very happy living in London,” Willian told Globo. http://sportwitness.co.uk/willian-speaks-brazilian-press-changes-everything-chelsea-transfer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Willian speaks to Brazilian press and changes everything on Chelsea transfer In an interview with Brazilian TV show Esporte Espetacular this Sunday, the player has claimed that he’s not moving away from London in the current transfer window. “No, I’m back to England. I’m very happy at Chelsea. I’m very happy living in London,” Willian told Globo. http://sportwitness.co.uk/willian-speaks-brazilian-press-changes-everything-chelsea-transfer/ No no no no no no no no no ... The Horror!!!! Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Looks pretty realistic to me Envoyé de mon SM-A520F en utilisant TapatalkWhy is he hiding?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 41 minutes ago, coolhead23 said: No no no no no no no no no ... The Horror!!!! Lets get things straight I dont want the rat here. I think hes a cunt and i know we could do better. BUT at the same time i think if anything would ever bting out the best in him it would be Sarris type of football. I'm still crossing everything that we can deal him out - wherever! And the words would come out covered in bile but I'd still shout for the rat if I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Lets get things straight I dont want the rat here. I think hes a cunt and i know we could do better. BUT at the same time i think if anything would ever bting out the best in him it would be Sarris type of football. I'm still crossing everything that we can deal him out - wherever! And the words would come out covered in bile but I'd still shout for the rat if I had to. There is no BUT for me, He wouldnt change ... doesnt matter what system u put him in ... In fact he will slow down the tempo in Sarri's system Someone who can really benefit would be Pedro because he loves to play direct and Sarri's system is just apt for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, coolhead23 said: There is no BUT for me, He wouldnt change ... doesnt matter what system u put him in ... In fact he will slow down the tempo in Sarri's system Someone who can really benefit would be Pedro because he loves to play direct and Sarri's system is just apt for him. If Jose Callejon was 27 or 28 I would bite Napolis hand off to swap for a 27 or 28 YO Willian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: If Jose Callejon was 27 or 28 I would bite Napolis hand off to swap for a 27 or 28 YO Willian. I'm just thinking if push comes to shove and we have no alternatives but him and Pedro, We cant just keep him in the changing room cause hes a rat. Some cyanide might work tho????? We need the best Callejon and Mertens as we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayioros 76 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 And why Willian is a rat exactly ? Because once time in his carreer he runs out to the tunnel after a sub cause he was angry ? Or for the emoji cup on Conte's face in instagram ? I don't get it really. I find Willian has showed great commitment since he was arrived 5 years ago. Always said and showed he loves the club, Just last year was bad for his image because his relation with Conte was terrible. We can criticize Willian for his lack of regularity but i'm sick to see all this exaggerations on him. Stop just keep the bad and pretend to forget all good thing Willian brought to us. When we read this topic it look like we are talking about Marko Marin or worst. Keep some common sense in your posts please. OneMoSalah, Blue Armour and herzogian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 57 minutes ago, Ayioros said: And why Willian is a rat exactly ? Because once time in his carreer he runs out to the tunnel after a sub cause he was angry ? Or for the emoji cup on Conte's face in instagram ? I don't get it really. I find Willian has showed great commitment since he was arrived 5 years ago. Always said and showed he loves the club, Just last year was bad for his image because his relation with Conte was terrible. We can criticize Willian for his lack of regularity but i'm sick to see all this exaggerations on him. Stop just keep the bad and pretend to forget all good thing Willian brought to us. When we read this topic it look like we are talking about Marko Marin or worst. Keep some common sense in your posts please. Blimey all the negativity thats is aimed at him on here and you focus on him being called a rat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 William just went AWOL and didn't show up to training camp claims it is passport issues https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6905429/willian-chelsea-training-passport/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogian 148 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, Vesper said: William just went AWOL and didn't show up to training camp claims it is passport issues https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6905429/willian-chelsea-training-passport/ Jeez, don't state it like it is a fact. The Sun or the Times claim it but where's the proof? Oh well, it's propably a result of the slow news regarding transfers. People are getting restless and are cluthing at straws in there search for information. The straws being all the non-news, rumours etc. on the internet. The sad thing is that most people know this but are still making assumptions based on the drivel you find on the internet. Que sera, sera... OneMoSalah, Blue Armour and Ayioros 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I don't get this idea of Willian being a 'rat'. He made a mistake that was petulant and childish but we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes last season. Going on media reports, Conte has been difficult to work with and in particular seemed to give the Brazilians a hard time last season after the Diego Costa debacle. Is Willian any different to some of the old guard wanting managers like Scolari and AVB out of the club, his frustrations have simply come out in the public domain as opposed to privately. Everything I've read in the past is that he's a very popular and likeable member of the squad. He's not the greatest player in the world but he's by no means the worst. The fact United and Barca have been sniffing round him this summer should suggest otherwise and given our struggles replacing Costa and Matic last summer I would be careful before he's just bombed out the club. Of course we could improve the RW area but Pedro and Willian are more than good enough to fill that position this season. I would be far more concerned with improving our striker and left back positions before the right wing. Blue Armour, bigbluewillie and Ayioros 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, herzogian said: Jeez, don't state it like it is a fact. The Sun or the Times claim it but where's the proof? Oh well, it's propably a result of the slow news regarding transfers. People are getting restless and are cluthing at straws in there search for information. The straws being all the non-news, rumours etc. on the internet. The sad thing is that most people know this but are still making assumptions based on the drivel you find on the internet. Que sera, sera... What part of what I posted isnt true? He did not show up, and now claims it is passport issues. Both those are facts, not rumours. Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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