🇧🇷 Willian

[dreamcfc 182]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yep. We'll go into this season with the same exact attacking options as last season and hoping a change in tactics/philosophy improve them.

Indeed. Not good at all, though all we really need is a goalscorer and i'd be ok with what we have.

[Polo7 3,496]

1 minute ago, kellzfresh said:

We scored 56 goals in the league last season. I don't know how Sarri is going to do it, but it would be a tactical masterclass if we can score up to 75-80 needed to get top four.

We scored 85 goals the season before. The only change was Costa who contributed to 20 goals. Had the rest of the team played properly we would have been on around 75-80 goals including Morata's 11. 

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1 minute ago, dreamcfc said:

Indeed. Not good at all, though all we really need is a goalscorer and i'd be ok with what we have.

That's the only worrying part of the squad...I don't want to see us be the lowest scoring team in the top 6 next season...I hope we can bring in a goal scoring forward or attacker...

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1 minute ago, eemanyooel said:

That's the only worrying part of the squad...I don't want to see us be the lowest scoring team in the top 6 next season...I hope we can bring in a goal scoring forward or attacker...

At this point, the only player I see coming in is possibly Vecino, who is so not a scorer. Maybe a panic/consolation signing (he is free, which is our preferred price for most signings these days) of Bernard. Willian is going nowhere, Real have said the £100m dual buy story was (of course) bullshit. The Martial swap is a self-delusional projection of my own wishes. I doubt we will even be able to sell Drinkwater (unless Palace loses the plot and sprays 30m quid our way) or Bakayoko (Milan has said no, Sevilla dont have the cash to meet our valuation) for anywhere near a price the board will agree to. We are 80% probably just going to let Courtois's contract wind down and lose him on a free next summer. I predict big issues goals scoring and with LB, when Emerson is not playing. EPL and EL teams are going to so exploit Alonso slowness and lack of defensive skills. Players like Salah, Mahrez, Sterling, Zaha, Felipe Anderson, etc will open him up like a cheap tin of tuna, The board has zero ambition, and I really think the club may be in the process of being sold.

I hope I am pleasantly surprised, but I see nothing going on at present to make that an outcome. The best we can hope for is Sarri to work magic with what he has.

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3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

At this point, the only player I see coming in is possibly Vecino, who is so not a scorer. Maybe a panic/consolation signing (he is free, which is our preferred price for most signings these days) of Bernard. Willian is going nowhere, Real have said the £100m dual buy story was (of course) bullshit. The Martial swap is a self-delusional projection of my own wishes. I doubt we will even be able to sell Drinkwater (unless Palace loses the plot and sprays 30m quid our way) or Bakayoko (Milan has said no, Sevilla dont have the cash to meet our valuation) for anywhere near a price the board will agree to. We are 80% probably just going to let Courtois's contract wind down and lose him on a free next summer. I predict big issues goals scoring and with LB, when Emerson is not playing. EPL and EL teams are going to so exploit Alonso slowness and lack of defensive skills. Players like Salah, Mahrez, Sterling, Zaha, Felipe Anderson, etc will open him up like a cheap tin of tuna, The board has zero ambition, and I really think the club may be in the process of being sold.

I hope I am pleasantly surprised, but I see nothing going on at present to make that an outcome. The best we can hope for is Sarri to work magic with what he has.

Vecino will not happen...anything can happen between now and close of the summer transfer window...though m not expecting anything...but let's save the moan till the start of the season or close of the summer transfer window...

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21 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

Vecino will not happen...anything can happen between now and close of the summer transfer window...though m not expecting anything...but let's save the moan till the start of the season or close of the summer transfer window...

I really think it will. Inter already has an overload of CMF's (Vecino, Radja Nainggolan, Marcelo Brozovic, Roberto Gagliardini (who I rate higher than Vecino), Borja Valero) and are on verge of signing Arturo Vidal from Bayern. They also have agreed fully with Atletico Madrid on RB Sime Vrsaljko. https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-accordo-totale-per-vrsaljko-le-cifre-delloperazione

They need the cash, and Sarri is obsessed with Vecino for some reason. Roman and Granny spent the Inter post game discussing his transfer. I think it goes down (and I think is a waste).

 

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I really think it will. Inter already has an overload of CMF's (Vecino, Radja Nainggolan, Marcelo Brozovic, Roberto Gagliardini (who I rate higher than Vecino), Borja Valero) and are on verge of signing Arturo Vidal from Bayern. They also have agreed fully with Atletico Madrid on RB Sime Vrsaljko. https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-accordo-totale-per-vrsaljko-le-cifre-delloperazione

They need the cash, and Sarri is obsessed with Vecino for some reason. Roman and Granny spent the Inter post game discussing his transfer. I think it goes down (and I think is a waste).

 

It won't happen...Read the club told Sarri the midfielders we have is enough for the season....Inter should can sell their vecino else where...it won't happen same also Higuain...amount Juventus is asking for him is outrageous while they ain't ready to sell Rugani...so Vecino won't happen unless Bakayoko and Drinkwater moves...

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8 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

It won't happen...Read the club told Sarri the midfielders we have is enough for the season....Inter should can sell their vecino else where...it won't happen same also Higuain...amount Juventus is asking for him is outrageous while they ain't ready to sell Rugani...so Vecino won't happen unless Bakayoko and Drinkwater moves...

I am hoping that Baka and Drinkwater ARE sold, just starting to think it may not happen for both. It's a 50/50 I think, but as soon as one is gone, I really think they close out Vecino. The most consistent number (price-wise) I have seen Inter wants is €30m (£26.7m). I cannot see that being a deal breaker

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am hoping that Baka and Drinkwater ARE sold, just starting to think it may not happen for both. It's a 50/50 I think, but as soon as one is gone, I really think they close out Vecino. The most consistent number (price-wise) I have seen Inter wants is €30m (£26.7m). I cannot see that being a deal breaker

Even at that then RLC will wanna move due to game time....signing vecino will shift him down the pecking order which I think will not do not to affect or distort his development....the only player the club won't mind doing that to RLC is SMS which I am sure will not happen due to his price tag....

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Just now, eemanyooel said:

Even at that then RLC will wanna move due to game time....signing vecino will shift him down the pecking order which I think will not do not to affect or distort his development....the only player the club won't mind doing that to RLC is SMS which I am sure will not happen due to his price tag....

I am not saying this is a good idea, I have been against the Vecino deal from the beginning, having watched him play a lot compared to (apparently, given the reactions) many here. Vecino is not being signed for the Barkely/RLC role. He is so not an AMF and goalscorer. I see him as a Uruguayan Drinkwater. Maybe not quite that bad, but ffs, they are/were literally 20 other CMF's in the £25 to £35m range who would be far far better for us to sign (or could have signed, but now already snatched.)

 

Leon Goretzka (should have signed him last summer (I have wanted him for years), he left on a FREE this year to Bayern, and he is MILES better than Vecino, lierally 2 different planets)

Roberto Gagliardini   Inter Milan  (would take him over Vecino is a flash, he scored against us a few days ago)

Houssem Aouar  Lyon

Jean Michaël Seri (Fulham stole him for £27m)

Geoffrey Kondogbia  Valencia

Mateo Kovacic     RM (probably above this budget limit, not sure)

Lorenzo Pellegrini    Roma

Kevin Strootman     Roma

Tanguy Ndombélé     Lyon (my number one choice)

Nicolò Barella  Cagliari

Bryan Cristante     Roma stole him for £22m from Atalanta, miles beyond Vecino

Dennis Praet   Sampdoria

Fabián Ruiz     Napoli stole him from a great little 2017-18 Real Betis team for £27m

Giacomo Bonaventura  AC Milan

Yuri Tielemans   Monaco

Manu Trigueros  Villarreal (a poor mans Fabregas, great value player)

Amadou Haidara RB Salzburg   superb 20yo CMF

Thomas Delaney   Borussia Dortmund   was superb for Denmark in WC, rock solid player, same age as Vecino

Jordan Veretout  Fiorentina 

Max Meyer   wild card, no team, so a free, let Schalke contract wind down, potentially world class, needs to get out of Germany, where pressure was insane

 

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Willian speaks to Brazilian press and changes everything on Chelsea transfer

In an interview with Brazilian TV show Esporte Espetacular this Sunday, the player has claimed that he’s not moving away from London in the current transfer window.

“No, I’m back to England. I’m very happy at Chelsea. I’m very happy living in London,” Willian told Globo.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/willian-speaks-brazilian-press-changes-everything-chelsea-transfer/

[coolhead23 1,147]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

Willian speaks to Brazilian press and changes everything on Chelsea transfer

In an interview with Brazilian TV show Esporte Espetacular this Sunday, the player has claimed that he’s not moving away from London in the current transfer window.

“No, I’m back to England. I’m very happy at Chelsea. I’m very happy living in London,” Willian told Globo.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/willian-speaks-brazilian-press-changes-everything-chelsea-transfer/

No no no no no no no no no ... The Horror!!!!

[1chelsea 864]

Looks pretty realistic to me

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41 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

No no no no no no no no no ... The Horror!!!!

Lets get things straight

I dont want the rat here. I think hes a cunt and i know we could do better.

BUT at the same time i think if anything would ever bting out the best in him it would be Sarris type of football.

I'm still crossing everything that we can deal him out - wherever! And the words would come out covered in bile but I'd still shout for the rat if I had to.

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1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

Lets get things straight

I dont want the rat here. I think hes a cunt and i know we could do better.

BUT at the same time i think if anything would ever bting out the best in him it would be Sarris type of football.

I'm still crossing everything that we can deal him out - wherever! And the words would come out covered in bile but I'd still shout for the rat if I had to.

There is no BUT for me, He wouldnt change ... doesnt matter what system u put him in ... In fact he will slow down the tempo in Sarri's system

Someone who can really benefit would be Pedro because he loves to play direct and Sarri's system is just apt for him.  

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6 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

There is no BUT for me, He wouldnt change ... doesnt matter what system u put him in ... In fact he will slow down the tempo in Sarri's system

Someone who can really benefit would be Pedro because he loves to play direct and Sarri's system is just apt for him.  

If Jose Callejon was 27 or 28 I would bite Napolis hand off to swap for a 27 or 28 YO Willian.

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9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If Jose Callejon was 27 or 28 I would bite Napolis hand off to swap for a 27 or 28 YO Willian.

I'm just thinking if push comes to shove and we have no alternatives but him and Pedro, We cant just keep him in the changing room cause hes a rat. Some cyanide might work tho?????

We need the best Callejon and Mertens as we can get.

[Ayioros 76]

And why Willian is a rat exactly ?

Because once time in his carreer he runs out to the tunnel after a sub cause he was angry ?

Or for the emoji cup on Conte's face in instagram ?

I don't get it really.

I find Willian has showed great commitment since he was arrived 5 years ago.

Always said and showed he loves the club,

Just last year was bad for his image because his relation with Conte was terrible.

We can criticize Willian for his lack of regularity but i'm sick to see all this exaggerations on him. Stop just keep the bad and pretend to forget all good thing Willian brought to us.

When we read this topic it look like we are talking about Marko Marin or worst.

Keep some common sense in your posts please.

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

57 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

And why Willian is a rat exactly ?

Because once time in his carreer he runs out to the tunnel after a sub cause he was angry ?

Or for the emoji cup on Conte's face in instagram ?

I don't get it really.

I find Willian has showed great commitment since he was arrived 5 years ago.

Always said and showed he loves the club,

Just last year was bad for his image because his relation with Conte was terrible.

We can criticize Willian for his lack of regularity but i'm sick to see all this exaggerations on him. Stop just keep the bad and pretend to forget all good thing Willian brought to us.

When we read this topic it look like we are talking about Marko Marin or worst.

Keep some common sense in your posts please.

 

Blimey all the negativity thats is aimed at him on here and you focus on him being called a rat!

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William just went AWOL and didn't show up to training camp

claims it is passport issues

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6905429/willian-chelsea-training-passport/