mufilika 101 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another problem is that academy plays completely diferent style of football than senior team. Different philosophy etc. One reason why Barca or Ajax academies are great is because youth and senior players play in same system and style.Clearly you haven't seen any Chelsea youth games. The academy play exactly the same way as the first team. Especially this season/year. They have carbon copy styles.But it's still huge leap moving from u21 football to PL and CL football. Some players might have to switch positions/roles IF THEY MAKE IT to the first team. Like Ake, while he has played mainly as a CB at youth level(also played LB and DM), he is more likely to make it as a DM in the first team. guddy6969 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Clearly you haven't seen any Chelsea youth games. The academy play exactly the same way as the first team. Especially this season/year. They have carbon copy styles.But it's still huge leap moving from u21 football to PL and CL football. Some players might have to switch positions/roles IF THEY MAKE IT to the first team. Like Ake, while he has played mainly as a CB at youth level(also played LB and DM), he is more likely to make it as a DM in the first team.Granted it's on a different level but our academy play better football. They dominate games a lot more than we do. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufilika 101 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Granted it's on a different level but our academy play better football. They dominate games a lot more than we do.Yes indeed, the Academy is very dominant and are often more pleasant to watch. But that's down to a number of things.Among other things, the academy guys have played that style for a long time. Basically it's how they are trained to play. And they almost never deviate from it.But at first team level, they guys sometimes change styles especially when playing very difficult opposition. The first team guys also haven't been playing that style of high pressing and quick passing all their lives. They have to adopt to the new system. And previously the Managers were all using different systems to that of the Academy.This yr the the Academy and the first team have both been playing the same way.The first team has been less succesful because the players have to adopt and get used to the system. That's why they have been very inconsistent in both results and beauty of performances. Also Mou has often deviated from the style; I think precisely because the players are not yet confortable in their roles and also limitations in players available. Where as the Academy almost never change the style of play and the players are very comfortable in their roles. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Is the Man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Really good again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueChelseaBlue 105 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 As always, was superb. If Lewis doesn't break into the first team at some point something is seriously wrong.Has the potential to be one of the best midfielders the country has produced in years.Too, top player. I know he's already made his debut for the first team but would love to see him given more chances over the next few seasons. DJames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 What are his strenghts and weaknesses?Is he creative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 What are his strenghts and weaknesses?Is he creative?StrengthsTwo-footedExcellent techniqueBrilliant set piece takerVision (Yes, he is a creative playmaker)Good balance/strengthComposedVersatile (CM but can also play on either flank or as a no.10WeaknessesLack of pace but not really an issue as that does not really affect the position he plays in. Esam, The Skipper, DJames and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 StrengthsTwo-footedExcellent techniqueBrilliant set piece takerVision (Yes, he is a creative playmaker)Good balance/strengthComposedVersatile (CM but can also play on either flank or as a no.10WeaknessesLack of pace but not really an issue as that does not really affect the position he plays in.Thank you very much.So is he a good dribbler like Barkley?Do you think that he will make it here?Or is he another talent like Kakuta who was just a talent,not more?Is Baker a similar player to RLC and who is better?RLC or Baker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thank you very much.So is he a good dribbler like Barkley?Do you think that he will make it here?Or is he another talent like Kakuta who was just a talent,not more?Is Baker a similar player to RLC and who is better?RLC or Baker?Baker is different from Barkley imo. Barkley is a lot more explosive. Baker is good at keeping possession but he does not have that dribbling and explosive acceleration like Barkley. I am hopeful that he can make it here but I cannot guarantee it simply because of our track record with other players from our academy. If he keeps going the way he is I am hopeful he will make it here as he is a genuine talent but for me it is really 50/50. Kakuta was a weird one because I enjoyed watching him when he played in the youth cup for us. Simply was amazing to watch but never fulfilled his talent.Hard to compare RLC and Baker. Right now Baker is slightly ahead in development and playing level. RLC is a beast physically and if it was not for his injuries earlier in his career he probably would be a bit more advanced in development. In the long run I reckon RLC might make it here ahead of Baker. Not because I think he is better but because I reckon his build and physical strengths will help him in making it here and he is slightly younger than Baker as well but going back to Barkley, he is more similar to RLC. RLC is not an attacking midfielder but has that ability like Barkley to power past people with their close ball control and power.Hope that helps mate. The Skipper and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The way our young player played brilliantly in one season, winning some title and cups, won the young player of the year award, and then he is going on loan, sometimes doesn't even have enough game time, sometimes unlucky with an injury and at the end of the day they will be sold, doesn't sound right to me.I think we should starting to give a chance to every young player that played brilliantly and won young player of the year like Baker in the first team at least for 6 months. Play him as a sub and as a starter in cup games. If he is struggle then in January we could loan him. No harm at all. Every young player of the year deserved that kind of opportunity in my opinion. It also can motivate other players to push their limit, so they are someday could get the same opportunity. Muzchap and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Sweet goal 2nite in final made up for easy chance earlier missed,surley its only a matter of time before some of these guys breakthrough iseah100 and iceman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Reminds me of Lampard in his prime. Every time I see him play you just have a feeling he will come up with a goal. Looking forward to see what next season holds for him. iceman and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Can be what he wants to be this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Lampard's long term replacement already sorted. well one can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 What a great goal tonight and performance, definitely deserved the young player award. laura90 and iceman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Lew is the new Frank Lampard, not that fucker at Spurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The way our young player played brilliantly in one season, winning some title and cups, won the young player of the year award, and then he is going on loan, sometimes doesn't even have enough game time, sometimes unlucky with an injury and at the end of the day they will be sold, doesn't sound right to me.I think we should starting to give a chance to every young player that played brilliantly and won young player of the year like Baker in the first team at least for 6 months. Play him as a sub and as a starter in cup games. If he is struggle then in January we could loan him. No harm at all. Every young player of the year deserved that kind of opportunity in my opinion. It also can motivate other players to push their limit, so they are someday could get the same opportunity.Great post - sadly unlikely to ever happen...People won't even give Salah a chance - let alone a youth player - the FIFA / FM culture rules too many small childish brains. They don't realise (as still immature) that experience is required - and the only way to get experience is to play, but massive criticism and stupid expectations lead to players being slated constantly...I hope we do see the youth team in the Worthless Cup - much like Arsenal do... Would be great for them and give te others a rest They could go on and win it!!! Unionjack and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 In terms of situation, he reminds me heavily on Pogba...same age, big role in u21, quite some recognition and winning titles with youth team...Im sure he could be backup next year, he is 19 already, its time to give him a chance. TrueChelseaBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueChelseaBlue 105 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 In terms of situation, he reminds me heavily on Pogba...same age, big role in u21, quite some recognition and winning titles with youth team...Im sure he could be backup next year, he is 19 already, its time to give him a chance.He'd excel at first team level I'm sure, would love to see him be given a chance next season, and in pre-season.He's a special talent & a nice lad to go with it. Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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