TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Statistic without a proper evaluation does not provide anything.Most of Luiz long passes are simple kicks to attack when he is a bit pressured at the back (which I find stupid). Luiz as a DM would have a better percentage. Also, he has more abiliity to help in the attack than any of our CBs and DMs, so I guess we have a decent case for trying him on double pivot. Him and an excellent ball controler (Moutinho, Old Pirlo, Xabi Alonso, etc) would make a great duo.There is a good possibility that he will thrive. We have to at least give it a shot, if it doesnt work (it is not like we are fighting every single point to win EPL), just make him a CB again.I wouldn't say that at all. Most of Luiz's long balls are either him playing the ball to open players ahead of him (Mikel, Cole, Ivanovic) which tend to be successful or him trying to pick out attackers and his success rate on those passes is just awful. I am fine with seeing Luiz as a defensive midfielder because our top-2 DMs are both out and if he thrives there, then of course he should stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Except that Lampard and Oscar are both better passers than Luiz so moving to Luiz to the midfield for his passing instead of one of the others makes no sense. If you want him there for the defensive part of the formation, I can see Luiz there as a stop-gap measure, but I've never understood why people are so keen on moving Luiz to midfield.Perhaps, but Luiz has mobility over Lampard and strength over Oscar. His work rate is twice that of either Lampard or Oscar and he's growing into a leader on the pitch. I've stated I don't like him as a CB too many times i'm beginning to sound like a broken record I was only talking about a stop-gap as well btw - With Romeu/Mikel out, we're well short of numbers, and as soon as JT/Cahill are back we're covered at CB. Either we commit to Luiz in midfield or purchase/loan a player in January imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 damn it... he is the captain of my fantasy team...Haha time give the captaincy to Torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Why?Because that chant you wrote is so retarded.Rafa is currently a part of Chelsea, like it or not.Getting rid of him now isnt gonna help AT ALL.I dont like him either, but I like the fact that he is mixing things up and trying new stuff, for instance Luiz as DM, Oscar as DM etc.He's probably gone in the summer anyway, there is no reason to create any hate towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 How does Hazard have so many votes that he's pushing for man of the match?He came on for 20-25 minutes? when the match was already won, scored a goal yes but it didn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Not good enough. They scored aganist us. May as well have fucking lost.... Haha. I was so tired at 1-3 I just said fuck it we've won and went back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Really pathetic those people that were cheering the fact we were losing at half-time, because it would mean Rafa getting sacked.How does Hazard have so many votes that he's pushing for man of the match?He came on for 20-25 minutes? when the match was already won, scored a goal yes but it didn't mean much.He came on when it was tied no? regardless he's just too awesome to not vote for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Really pathetic those people that were cheering the fact we were losing at half-time, because it would mean Rafa getting sacked.He came on when it was tied no? regardless he's just too awesome to not vote for I didn't notice many people happy at HT most were truly fucked off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Really pathetic those people that were cheering the fact we were losing at half-time, because it would mean Rafa getting sacked.He came on when it was tied no? regardless he's just too awesome to not vote for Ah sorry, some reason I thought he came on at 3-1, still don't think he was that good for man of the match to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Perhaps, but Luiz has mobility over Lampard and strength over Oscar. His work rate is twice that of either Lampard or Oscar and he's growing into a leader on the pitch. I've stated I don't like him as a CB too many times i'm beginning to sound like a broken record I was only talking about a stop-gap as well btw - With Romeu/Mikel out, we're well short of numbers, and as soon as JT/Cahill are back we're covered at CB. Either we commit to Luiz in midfield or purchase/loan a player in January imo.Yeah, I can agree with that. I'd rather he be used with Lampard and Oscar as the defensive side of the pivot. Has the potential to be good IMO It's bad luck for us to have Romeu go down when Mikel is going to be away. Normally, two DMs is enough cover. But that's the thing with depth. You don't need it until you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ah sorry, some reason I thought he came on at 3-1, still don't think he was that good for man of the match to be honest.But a goal and an assist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 But a goal and an assist!I actually thought Luiz had a great game but I suppose that error for the goal ruined a lot for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I actually thought Luiz had a great game but I suppose that error for the goal ruined a lot for him.It's Moses for me. That goal and the build up for Mata's equaliser were crucial for me.Lamps has once again proved why he deserve a new contract. See that passion and leadership? You can't buy that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I didn't notice many people happy at HT most were truly fucked off Yeah but there were some people, you would know were happy with the result. Those people that want Rafa out now, and don't care if the team lose so that can happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I actually thought Luiz had a great game but I suppose that error for the goal ruined a lot for him.He was very good except for the mistake and then him trying to make up for it (which he tends to do) where he over-persued players for a few minutes after. I actually thought his best moment was a great interception and dribble in defence before giving a nice outlet pass in defence. It was all just so smooth and calm. We had a lot of players that could have been MOTM. Nobody had a fantastic match that blew you away but we had a lot of players who were very good. Lampard, Moses, Mata, Luiz, and Hazard were all excellent. (I agree with you on Hazard BTW, he was excellent but was involved in the 4th and 5th goals when the game was already over.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah but there were some people, you would know were happy with the result. Those people that want Rafa out now, and don't care if the team lose so that can happen..I was really fucked off that we were down at HT to a bunch of crap ,,,Benitez is irrelevant to that cept TORRES is the worst offender ..Ive defended that tart for almost two years BUT NO MORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I was really fucked off that we were down at HT to a bunch of crap ,,,Benitez is irrelevant to that cept TORRES is the worst offender ..Ive defended that tart for almost two years BUT NO MOREYeah i was too, which is why i couldn't be arsed to respond to those people. As for Torres, i just don't get him - it's normal for a striker to be bad outside the box, like he is when he gives the ball away, makes stupid passes and can't hold the ball up, but it's very weird for that same striker to also be bad inside the box which he is with his movement, touch and finishing, sigh.I know we won't get Falcao in January, but we definitely need someone else to come in and relegate Torres to backup option. At least he normally plays well against the bad teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 How does Hazard have so many votes that he's pushing for man of the match?He came on for 20-25 minutes? when the match was already won, scored a goal yes but it didn't mean much.I am wondering the same thing. Hazard contributed when the game was latterly over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I am wondering the same thing. Hazard contributed when the game was latterly over.hope he doesn,t keep copying Torres them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Lamps showed some heart that I haven't seen for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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