Fernando Torres

[Kieran. 6,317]

Just wanna add this and I'll stop. More than a billion people live on less than a dollar a day...Torres' 185k/wk wage converted to USD is $312,000 a week, or $44,500 a day...or $1,850 a minute.

[Stingray 9,441]

Lukaku might be a nag and a whiner but this turd does a constant 'piëta' while underperformance ever since he is here.

We wouldnt take this from anybody. Any excuse is an illustration of a double standard concerning our players! Also, saying he works hard on the pitch ..... Just no.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

It's interesting timing for Mourinho to come out and say "we aren't selling Torres" right after we sold Lukaku. Why say it at all? With the timing, I think he means what he says. He said it himself, "I'm just the manager and I have to listen to the club". I hope this isn't a case of Torres still enjoying "protection" from the higher-ups at the club most especially Roman.

The question is will we be bringing in another 4th striker. I seriously doubt it. An ideal plan will be to bring in another striker that will give Costa serious competition and then we give Torres the Malouda treatment or at least a very fringe role like Ba got last season.

[iseah100 5,612]

It's interesting timing for Mourinho to come out and say "we aren't selling Torres" right after we sold Lukaku. Why say it at all? With the timing, I think he means what he says. He said it himself, "I'm just the manager and I have to listen to the club". I hope this isn't a case of Torres still enjoying "protection" from the higher-ups at the club most especially Roman..

Wow. How many shovels did you use to dig that out of the interview?

Sheesh.

If he sells Torres we only have Costa-Drogba.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Wow. How many shovels did you use to dig that out of the interview?

Sheesh.

If he sells Torres we only have Costa-Drogba.

If you're going to reply to all my posts every time then please don't attack straw man.

[Term-X 7,891]

It's interesting timing for Mourinho to come out and say "we aren't selling Torres" right after we sold Lukaku. Why say it at all? With the timing, I think he means what he says. He said it himself, "I'm just the manager and I have to listen to the club". I hope this isn't a case of Torres still enjoying "protection" from the higher-ups at the club most especially Roman.

The question is will we be bringing in another 4th striker. I seriously doubt it. An ideal plan will be to bring in another striker that will give Costa serious competition and then we give Torres the Malouda treatment or at least a very fringe role like Ba got last season.

There is no protection from the 'higher-ups', Roman sold the back to back Chelsea player of the year because Mourinho didn't fancy him. It really is a very simple case with Torres.. no club in world football will match his wages.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

There is no protection from the 'higher-ups', Roman sold the back to back Chelsea player of the year because Mourinho didn't fancy him. It really is a very simple case with Torres.. no club in world football will match his wages.

Mata wasn't Mourinho's pet project though. I'm not saying there is protection, but there might be. This is Chelsea and anything is possible. And as for the wages, I don't doubt that, but if the club is desperate to offload Torres, they will pay him what is left of his contract and put him on the market for cheap. I just don't see any urgency there.

[Barbara 15,149]

Look i'm really sorry about what happened to your crush. Like you said it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor we all have hurdles to jump in life but you really seem to be exaggerating what Torres is going through.

He's got a nice family, a nice bank account and he's still getting regular playing time at a top club.

His life really isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

I really don't understand why you suddenly feel the need to sympathize with Torres.

I also find it extremely weird that you think he deserves credit for not " throwing tantrums, moaning, complaining, giving the fans the middle finger, whatever". What exactly does he have to throw tantrums, moan, complain or give fans the middle finger about ?

The club and supporters have been nothing but supportive towards Torres. We've tried everything we could to get him scoring.

but did I say he has a bad life?

My my purpose was to say he behaved well given how frustrated and hateful towards his own mistakes he must be. If we hate him for those mistakes, how do you think he feels about himself as a professional? Isn't your career (not only the money you make out of it) an important aspect of your life?

Also I didn't say he should throw a tantrum, what I meant is when people get frustrated they can easily get out of line, or is it a lie? He's been controlling his emotions well imo. He's a good employee to the club, he just sucks playing football.

I'm complimenting his behavior, mate. We have nothing to say about it in the last two years. He's been a good professional here. But I still want him out of the club just as the next person, despite having good sides to him.

Lukaku might be a nag and a whiner but this turd does a constant 'piëta' while underperformance ever since he is here.

We wouldnt take this from anybody. Any excuse is an illustration of a double standard concerning our players! Also, saying he works hard on the pitch ..... Just no.

who even mentioned Lukaku?

Did I miss any post? Because I certainly didn't even remember Lukaku existed when I posted mine. I read a post by Fulham Broadway and agreed with him. Unless he (or someone else) talked about him and I've missed, I don't know what you could possibly be talking about?

There are good sides to both players - Lukaku and Torres - but at the end of the day I really like the idea of both of them out of Chelsea. Lukaku isn't a bad goal scorer and despite disliking his lack of balls to man up and fight, I don't take Torres for a fighter either... Also I haven't seen Lukaku moaning, throwing tantrums or showing the middle finger. He speaks too much in a stupid, annoying way and he's entitled as fuck thinking of himself much higher not only than he should but than he is.

And he's weak, behaves like a spoiled little girl that wants everything handed to him, but he isn't a moaner... and never threw tantrums (that I remember of). I think you assumed there was an agenda, when there wasn't any and then you came to conclusions that made no sense whatsoever...

there's nothing in common between Torres and Lukaku for you to talk about double standards. With all this attitude issues (imo) Lukaku doesn't act out in his frustration and had a good example of that just as Torres in the aspect I was defending Torres. Being an arrogant weakling that fears the fight doesn't make you a guy with bad behavior. Lukaku never even got of line (if you don't count speaking as a moron, but that's stupidity, not anything else).

At least your post opened my eyes as to why Belgiannut asked me why all of sudden I was sympathizing with Torres. You guys made me laugh hard.

[Term-X 7,891]

Mata wasn't Mourinho's pet project though.

Hugh?, what do you mean by that..

Mata was on the road to becoming a Chelsea legend, but Mourinho proved he had all the power by selling him. Mourinho got rid of him, not the club, not the higher ups.

[bababoom 4,478]

Atletico Madrid president - "Many names have been mentioned, but none of those players, neither Cazorla, Callejon, Torres nor Chicharito (Hernandez) are on our agenda," Cerezo said on Radio Marca. "If we sign another player, it won't be any of them."

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Hugh?, what do you mean by that..

Mata was on the road to becoming a Chelsea legend, but Mourinho proved he had all the power by selling him. Mourinho got rid of him, not the club, not the higher ups.

Torres is an Abramovich signing. Mata is not. He's been treated with kid's gloves from the moment he stepped into this club. We reconstructed our playing style because of Torres. We signed attacking midfielders galore to get the best out of Torres, even to the detriment of our team. We started an entire season with only Torres as the recognized striker. Better strikers have gone because of him. We've handed everything to him on a plate. It can't be just about the fee we've paid. I'm not saying Jose is a yes-man. I don't believe he is, BUT Mourinho is the manager. He's also an employee and takes orders even on some football related matters. He said it himself.

[stroey 2,525]

Atletico Madrid president - "Many names have been mentioned, but none of those players, neither Cazorla, Callejon, Torres nor Chicharito (Hernandez) are on our agenda," Cerezo said on Radio Marca. "If we sign another player, it won't be any of them."

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[The Skipper 20,593]

Atletico Madrid president - "Many names have been mentioned, but none of those players, neither Cazorla, Callejon, Torres nor Chicharito (Hernandez) are on our agenda," Cerezo said on Radio Marca. "If we sign another player, it won't be any of them."

[termninja 5,290]

I'm still hoping Torres would accept a pay cut and move to Atletico [emoji19]

[Barbara 15,149]

Atletico really is our last hope right?

Because Torres could only consider receiving less money to go to a place he's loved and Atleti fans showed their love and respect towards him in the matches against us. With Cerezo lack of interested on him we're definitely fated to see his contract expiring before he leaves.

[Stingray 9,441]

but did I say he has a bad life?

My my purpose was to say he behaved well given how frustrated and hateful towards his own mistakes he must be. If we hate him for those mistakes, how do you think he feels about himself as a professional? Isn't your career (not only the money you make out of it) an important aspect of your life?

Also I didn't say he should throw a tantrum, what I meant is when people get frustrated they can easily get out of line, or is it a lie? He's been controlling his emotions well imo. He's a good employee to the club, he just sucks playing football.

I'm complimenting his behavior, mate. We have nothing to say about it in the last two years. He's been a good professional here. But I still want him out of the club just as the next person, despite having good sides to him.

who even mentioned Lukaku?

Did I miss any post? Because I certainly didn't even remember Lukaku existed when I posted mine. I read a post by Fulham Broadway and agreed with him. Unless he (or someone else) talked about him and I've missed, I don't know what you could possibly be talking about?

There are good sides to both players - Lukaku and Torres - but at the end of the day I really like the idea of both of them out of Chelsea. Lukaku isn't a bad goal scorer and despite disliking his lack of balls to man up and fight, I don't take Torres for a fighter either... Also I haven't seen Lukaku moaning, throwing tantrums or showing the middle finger. He speaks too much in a stupid, annoying way and he's entitled as fuck thinking of himself much higher not only than he should but than he is.

And he's weak, behaves like a spoiled little girl that wants everything handed to him, but he isn't a moaner... and never threw tantrums (that I remember of). I think you assumed there was an agenda, when there wasn't any and then you came to conclusions that made no sense whatsoever...

there's nothing in common between Torres and Lukaku for you to talk about double standards. With all this attitude issues (imo) Lukaku doesn't act out in his frustration and had a good example of that just as Torres in the aspect I was defending Torres. Being an arrogant weakling that fears the fight doesn't make you a guy with bad behavior. Lukaku never even got of line (if you don't count speaking as a moron, but that's stupidity, not anything else).

At least your post opened my eyes as to why Belgiannut asked me why all of sudden I was sympathizing with Torres. You guys made me laugh hard.

I know B. I just think Lukaku is:

1. Too limited at this time to play for us.

2. But a good striker still for a mid tabel team

Torres gets sympathy for so long its just killing me. We are Chelsea, we need men, not boys (or girls , hence my remark on emotions with torres) leading the line.

I had sympathy for his psychological issues, but you cannot keep indulgent into that. We are no social institution catering for Torres' gentle psyche.

When i talk about double standards, its not about you at all saying this. Its about a 21 year old with a big mouth getting crucified as an asshole, coward, .... while Torres really cost us the last few years and gets excuse after excuse. He has been one of the best, but here he has been one of the worst. We would not accept it from Hazard, Oscar, Matic, Azpi ....... Anyway, i dont rate Lukaku that much, as i said before a number of times.

I kinda think Torres however doesnt have what you need to make the cut, technically, mentally, ambitiously, .... Despite his former palmares.

He is not a warrior.

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

Not much a fan of stats, but there are a lot worse in terms of game to goal ratio strikers in the league than the round shouldered misfiring one. Andy Carroll 35m, has a ratio of 5.3. games per goal. Cornelius , who ? Exactly, 0 goals in 8 appearances. Torres has a ratio of 3.7 games per goal.

Whilst we're on misfiring potential Shed heroes, Shevchenko had a ratio of 3.5, and those of a certain age will remember Mr Robert Fleck. An outstanding 48 fucking games scoring 4 goals.

All very academic, and in this day and age of instant gratification sought by fans, Senor Torres exceeds in a general capacity to exasperate.

[LAB 1,030]

Well, you can't expect Jose to really go out on Sky Sports and say that we literally are unable to sell him for well-known reasons, so the 3 strikers thing was the next best thing to say.