OReillyD36 311 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Does Mata start?Yeah, he started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yeah, he startedPlease don't get injured :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hope torres isnt injured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Every Spain attack seems to the going through Mata the last 10-20 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramox 246 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Every Spain attack seems to the going through Mata the last 10-20 minsCan You give Me a stream, please? (Since the MyP2P isn't working, I can't find good streams ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Can You give Me a stream, please?(Since the MyP2P isn't working, I can't find good streams )Here you go, Spanish commentary though :/ http://www.rojadirecta.es/goto/planetagoles4.blogspot.com/1-0 Negredo Ramox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wow what a pass from Mata to Villa Severinb and OReillyD36 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 must be better than the England crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramox 246 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I want to read Torres's thoughts... He should go to sport-psychologist or something... I've never seen such a decline in any form before this.... I'm really sorry him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Deleted - my info was pure crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I want to read Torres's thoughts... He should go to sport-psychologist or something... I've never seen such a decline in form before this.... I'm really sorry him!It pisses me off to del bosque needs a good torres so why not give him a good chance to score goals today!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramox 246 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It pisses me off to del bosque needs a good torres so why not give him a good chance to score goals today!!! Absolutely! This is a really easy match for them, and their qualification is safe... He must score some goal, to improve his form... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Torres has been part of the Spain NT for a long time. Even when he's been at his best, think 2007/2008, he's looked a little out of place on the Spain NT. That said, he needs to get on the score sheet quick and I say that as a huge Torres fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 To be fair though Torres doesn't deserve to play, he is not in form. We complain about Chelsea players playing when they are not in form e.g Lampard, Malouda, etc. Del Bosque has other players to play that are in form to choose from and they deserve a chance over the likes of Nando. It's easy for us to want players picked on their reputation but then be hypocritcal and complain when players are picked on reputation for Chelsea. Torres needs to win his place back, and that's down to him performing SeB, sLOVEnian Blue and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 He hasn't been a starter for a while and deservedly so. Negredo, Llorente and Soldado (for some reason Soldado doesn't get called up) are all in much better form. Del Bosque has been good to Torres until now but if he keeps this up, he'll loose his place.Absolutely. Soldado has been red hot for around 15 months now. Spain's striking options are terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 To be fair though Torres doesn't deserve to play, he is not in form. We complain about Chelsea players playing when they are not in form e.g Lampard, Malouda, etc. Del Bosque has other players to play that are in form to choose from and they deserve a chance over the likes of Nando. It's easy for us to want players picked on their reputation but then be hypocritcal and complain when players are picked on reputation for Chelsea. Torres needs to win his place back, and that's down to him performingIndeed.Negredo is on much better form, even Llorente is. Torres, of all players, knows how much competition there is for the NT, even the bench. It's up to him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 He hasn't been a starter for a while and deservedly so. Negredo, Llorente and Soldado (for some reason Soldado doesn't get called up) are all in much better form. Del Bosque has been good to Torres until now but if he keeps this up, he'll loose his place.DB has been good to Torres but that goes both ways. A main source of friction at Liverpool was Torres/Spain NT/Liverpool. He'd leave Liverpool, join the NT, come back hurt, and Liverpool would miss him for weeks. Liverpool would rush to have him back, another international game/friendly, off Torres would go to join Spain, and he'd get hurt again. It was pissing off Rafa who wanted Torres to rest, it was pissing off Spain who said he was ok, and it was pissing off Torres who wanted to play for club and country.DB brought Torres for the WC because of his history with the NT, his Euro Cup winning goal, etc (similar to Lampard - a good servant for his country). In hindsight it was probably one of the worst things to happen - Torres was only 6-8 weeks post-op knee surgery (second in 6 months) and he wasn't 100%. He probably wasn't even 75% and it affected his game.For me personally (and I don't count according to AVB or DB), Torres needs to stay healthy, needs to play with his club, find a rhythm with his teammates, and find the back of the net. The rest will take care of itself. For me now it seems to be a mental block more than anything else.The hate he receives from the media, "fans", makes me wonder what he's done to piss off so many people other than leave holier than thou Liverpool. He even gets it in Spain which Atletico fans say is because he's repeatedly pledged his loyalty to Atletico and thumbed his nose at RM. In Madrid, if you're not playing for RM, you're sh*t and that permeates a lot of the Spanish media.Bottom line - he needs to work hard, start scoring, and that'll shut up his critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Let's face it, this is Spain. Aside from defense, they've got multiple top class players for each position. Torres wasn't going to stay on the team forever with his recent form. Yes, still a shock to actually see Torres dropped off the team but logically it makes sense. I'd have preferred Del Bosque to keep his democratic rotation of CF's (meaning it was Llorente's turn to start and Torres to sub since he didn't start the last game) and given Torres some easy chances to notch a couple of goals. Any team Del Bosque started tonight would have won 6-0 against Lichtenstein. But obviously Del Bosque was all business and treated the game properly as a Euro qualifier. Anyway, it's better early for Torres to get a warning from Del Bosque rather than to get it by being dropped right before Euro 2012. He'll have the whole season to fight for his place.It's not just Torres, Silva will have to look out for Mata now. Llorente is under the same pressure from Negredo. Jourdan Hardy and sLOVEnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I have to add this, I know it's a little petty...Torres scores a brace against Lichtenstein, he bullies the weak teams. Negredo scores a brace against Lichtenstein and he's in the form of his life and unquestionably the best CF for Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Too many top strikers in form right now in Spain.While as Chelsea got none in form.AVB what he needs to do is just stick to one striker and make him the focus, giving that all our strikers are not in good form.I vote for Torres. And if he continues doing bad by December, then no excuses can save him! Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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