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Agree with the sentiment here. Bring em' on. Its been a few years since there was a classic Champions League night at the Bridge. After the 2012 run, I think only the win against PSG where Ba nicked a winner came close. It feels good to have these big games back on the fixture list. 

 

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On 12/12/2017 at 2:19 AM, Jason said:

Can someone please tell me how are Juventus considered a good draw for Spurs? Have read some analysis across various sites and somehow, Juventus, who have won 6 straight Serie A titles and reached 2 Champions League finals in last 3 years, have been dismissed like they're Newcastle! One journalist even deemed them sitting 3rd in the table as unthinkable, despite being just 2 points off the top! Why are people even reading so much into Spurs' wins over Real and Dortmund, who have been nothing short of disaster this season?

Also unsurprisingly, many seem to have written us off against Barcelona. They are, rightly, the favorites but if Conte is looking at how to get the players pumped up for the tie, he could do no worse than stick up the predictions from the journalists/pundits in the dressing room.

It's certainly not a very good draw, but I'll still favour Spurs over Juventus, not on current form of course. But Spurs will hit back, they have a young and talented squad, and of course maybe their performances shouldn't mean anything given the form of Real and Dortmund but even Juventus were nothing great in the Champions League, Barca managed to contain them in both the legs

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2 hours ago, cfcs most wanted said:

It's certainly not a very good draw, but I'll still favour Spurs over Juventus, not on current form of course. But Spurs will hit back, they have a young and talented squad, and of course maybe their performances shouldn't mean anything given the form of Real and Dortmund but even Juventus were nothing great in the Champions League, Barca managed to contain them in both the legs

I don't think finishing second in the group should be used as an indication for anything, especially when there's a 2-month gap between the group stage and knockout stage. It's always about qualifying for the last 16 when you're in the group. Juventus in 2014/15, for example, came second in their group behind Atletico Madrid and still managed to reach the final, beating Dortmund, Monaco and Real Madrid along the way. Juve also did something similar last season. So they do have a track record of turning it on in the knockout stage.

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How do these teams keep possession so well even in most difficult situations? I don't get it, if it was us Courtois would have lumped 10 long balls by now because we can't stand any kind of pressure.

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12 minutes ago, manpe said:

How do these teams keep possession so well even in most difficult situations? I don't get it, if it was us Courtois would have lumped 10 long balls by now because we can't stand any kind of pressure.

Cause these guys know how to pass, for starters

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2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Basel might be playing a weaken City side but look at them taking the game to them and having joy. Makes our performance even more pathetic

makes me wanna punch Conte for that post match comments...

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11 minutes ago, manpe said:

How do these teams keep possession so well even in most difficult situations? I don't get it, if it was us Courtois would have lumped 10 long balls by now because we can't stand any kind of pressure.

Same thing with Mourinho's Chelsea. In truth we've always been awful at building from the back. These teams have managers that can coach how to beat a high press by passing out from the back. Right now we have Rudiger, Christensen and Azpilicueta.  No excuse in Conte's inability to be able to coach this team to adequately pass out from the back.

We also need another deep lying playmaker to help Fabregas make it easier to beat the press when he drops deep with the centre backs to try and make forward passes. Fabregas is our only playmaking midfielder capable of seeing the pitch and making quick incisive passes. But he's slow and susceptible to the high press of coaches like Guardiola, Pochettino and Klopp. But the coaching aspect comes before the personnel aspect in my opinion. 

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Same thing with Mourinho's Chelsea. In truth we've always been awful at building from the back. These teams have managers that can coach how to beat a high press by passing out from the back. Right now we have Rudiger, Christensen and Azpilicueta.  No excuse in Conte's inability to be able to coach this team to adequately pass out from the back.
We also need another deep lying playmaker to help Fabregas make it easier to beat the press when he drops deep with the centre backs to try and make forward passes. Fabregas is our only playmaking midfielder capable of seeing the pitch and making quick incisive passes. But he's slow and susceptible to the high press of coaches like Guardiola, Pochettino and Klopp. But the coaching aspect comes before the personnel aspect in my opinion. 
We are actually quite good coming out from the back, definitely better than anything we saw under Mourinho. This difference was the first thing I noticed with Conte's arrival. The problem arises once we get to midfield, due to lack of quality or coaching or whatever reasons, we hit a wall or make a simple mistake and have to face pressure again. We simply don't have the midfield to connect our back to front fluidly. Fabregas is not mobile enough, he's one of the bottlenecks in our midfield. Kante absolutely needs a completely different partner than anything we can currently offer.

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