dumps 284 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 You know its a good leg work out when stairs become a challenge that you could possibly not complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 LOL guys...Everyone can build visible abs...However, genes come into play when in reference to an 8 vs 6 pack..... Not everyone can have a full 8 pack, that genetic... But the idea of visible abs is doable for everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent 403 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 @Vincent:Mate, that guy has massive abs. they are huge. they just arent defined. thats exactly what i was talking about when i was going on about tennis balls and loafs of bread - that guy just has a massive 1 pac!and saying even if you dont work abs but you train all the time and your abs are used to stabalise you, fair point, they do, but they dont get massive that way. thats like saying theres no need to work your triceps if you are benching all day.... yes your triceps are used when you bench, but they arent used at full capacity. same with abs.In bodybuilding poses they show of all muscle in each pose, so if they do a front double bicep pose like i posted then they try to show off their bicep, tricep, shoulder, legs - everything also abs. When i talk about abs i think about an 6 pack, if you say that the guy i posted has visible abs then we probably have different designation about abs. So there are other people showing off abs in the exact same pose. Plus your abs also dont get massive by doing sit ups or crunches. Just like your chest won't keep growing by pushing an empty bar for chest. They will just get more definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 LOL guys...Everyone can build visible abs...However, genes come into play when in reference to an 8 vs 6 pack..... Not everyone can have a full 8 pack, that genetic... But the idea of visible abs is doable for everyone!thats not true. unless its a rare genetic condition... everybody has hte same amount of muscles and bones.@vincent you can do a sit up or a crunch with added resistance, cable crunches, or hold on to a weight = added resistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent 403 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 @vincent you can do a sit up or a crunch with added resistance, cable crunches, or hold on to a weight = added resistance.That is true, but i think that you will build more muscles by deadlifting 300kg or squatting 300kg then cable crunches for extra resistance. And please reply on the other text i've posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 thats not true. unless its a rare genetic condition... everybody has hte same amount of muscles and bones.@vincent you can do a sit up or a crunch with added resistance, cable crunches, or hold on to a weight = added resistance.nah bro... 8pack is genetic... If you look at body building forums, most people would agree... (Also, when I was in peak shape, I neve came close to the 8, but got 6)... However, as I said before, having visible abs is not though.....When I did ab workouts, I did mostly planks..... Now, i downgraded to just situps of variations.. (Peak plank was 5mins). Im going to get back to working out hardcore again since the holiday season is over and the weather is picking up... (I love working out, cept jogging)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igi26 346 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Tommorrow is my first day when I'm training twice per day. It's time for speed training. 8x5 sprints, 2 min break between sprints and 5 min between sets. It will be hard but I'm prepared to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Alright lads, back from my very first training session! When I got there I was really well introduced. They took me to a room where they did a bunch of basic questions and tests: posture, weight, height, body fat, heart test in a bike, strech and flexibility, etc. I will get all of them tomorrow...They asked what my goal was and I told them what I have already told you guys. Since I told them I will probably go 4-5 times a week, they will build a battery of 4 different training sessions to be repeated each week. Every new month an advisor will have a look at my training so I can tell him/her how I am doing, what I am finding and where I am improving more or less. Also, there is a "computer" where users change the weights they are lifting in each machine. So you just enter your user number and the machine print your training for that specific day (so you dont have to rememeber or lose track of what training you must do in that day).Today I only did the test and 40min of cardio. I will begin with long repeats of moderate difficulty to get used to the thing, so 4 of 12 or something like that. He said it is better and safer than going crazy from the start...My posture is a big problem (he said), so I will have to work on that and he will put me on a specific class they have on mondays that they do exercises that vastly improve it on the long run. My strength will come naturally (according to him), since I am still young and finishing adding muscles to my body. He told me I am in the right time to work on my body, because changes still happen very fast and I am not growing a lot anymore to hurt my development with intense training.I really liked the place, there are so many hot girls and that makes everything easier, lol. I want to look perfect by summer time (november), so I guess I have enough time. Now, all I got to do is have focus and determination.To the hot girls I will se everyday from now on! I am single ladies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Alright lads, back from my very first training session! When I got there I was really well introduced. They took me to a room where they did a bunch of basic questions and tests: posture, weight, height, body fat, heart test in a bike, strech and flexibility, etc. I will get all of them tomorrow...They asked what my goal was and I told them what I have already told you guys. Since I told them I will probably go 4-5 times a week, they will build a battery of 4 different training sessions to be repeated each week. Every new month an advisor will have a look at my training so I can tell him/her how I am doing, what I am finding and where I am improving more or less. Also, there is a "computer" where users change the weights they are lifting in each machine. So you just enter your user number and the machine print your training for that specific day (so you dont have to rememeber or lose track of what training you must do in that day).Today I only did the test and 40min of cardio. I will begin with long repeats of moderate difficulty to get used to the thing, so 4 of 12 or something like that. He said it is better and safer than going crazy from the start...My posture is a big problem (he said), so I will have to work on that and he will put me on a specific class they have on mondays that they do exercises that vastly improve it on the long run. My strength will come naturally (according to him), since I am still young and finishing adding muscles to my body. He told me I am in the right time to work on my body, because changes still happen very fast and I am not growing a lot anymore to hurt my development with intense training.I really liked the place, there are so many hot girls and that makes everything easier, lol. I want to look perfect by summer time (november), so I guess I have enough time. Now, all I got to do is have focus and determination.To the hot girls I will se everyday from now on! I am single ladies... Woah, very happy for you. Though,mate, this all seems so high tech I have to ask you if you didn't walk into NASA Brazil branch by accident? Also very professional advice by them and realistic goals by your side, keep it up and it will pay off - promise you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Woah, very happy for you. Though,mate, this all seems so high tech I have to ask you if you didn't walk into NASA Brazil branch by accident? Also very professional advice by them and realistic goals by your side, keep it up and it will pay off - promise you.Thanks! No, we are a shit country, Nasa would never come here! I told you it was world class and had more than one might need, but I am only doing because I get 50% off for being a University student and I also got an extra 7% off because I did a 12 month plan (instead of the regular 6 month). I am paying the equivalent of 46 euros/month (normal price is around 90). This is the place, Bodytech: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks! No, we are a shit country, Nasa would never come here! I told you it was world class and had more than one might need, but I am only doing because I get 50% off for being a University student and I also got an extra 7% off because I did a 12 month plan (instead of the regular 6 month). This is the place, Bodytech: A paradise, a Meka - make good use of it! Btw, is it crowded or the area is so big you don't meet any people while adventuring around there? Edit: What kind of music do they play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks! No, we are a shit country, Nasa would never come here! I told you it was world class and had more than one might need, but I am only doing because I get 50% off for being a University student and I also got an extra 7% off because I did a 12 month plan (instead of the regular 6 month). I am paying the equivalent of 36 euros/ month (normal price is around 80). This is the place, Bodytech: Fucking hell, monster of a gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 A paradise, a Meka - make good use of it! Btw, is it crowded or the area is so big you don't meet any people while adventuring around there? Edit: What kind of music do they play?I go at around 2-3pm (when I usually have a free window at uni), so it is pretty empty. But before and after work hours (7-8am and 6-9pm) it is crowded as hell.My plan doesnt cover the pool, but all the rest it does:EDIT: They play pop/hip-hop songs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That is true, but i think that you will build more muscles by deadlifting 300kg or squatting 300kg then cable crunches for extra resistance. And please reply on the other text i've posted.ok well my advice to you would to be do some squats and dead lifts, then rate out of 10 how well worked your abs feel.then grab a 5 kg medicine ball. lay down. hold your arms out so you are completely flat with the ball resting on the ground over your head, do 3 sets of 8-12 reps of that and then rate out of 10 how hard you feel your abs have been worked...i dont know what text you are referring to. the stuff about how we define visible abs? then i htink you are right, if you are thinking of seeing a 6 pack, but like i said, thats just the shape of the muscle.nahbro... 8pack is genetic... If you look at body building forums, mostpeople would agree... (Also, when I was in peak shape, I neve cameclose to the 8, but got 6)... However, as I said before, having visible abs is not though.....When I did ab workouts, I did mostly planks..... Now, i downgraded to just situps of variations.. (Peak plank was 5mins). Im going to get back to working out hardcore again since the holiday season is over and the weather is picking up... (I love working out, cept jogging)!its very rare to see a visible 8 pac, i dont know if i have ever seen one. but everybody has it.In reference to that picture, pac 7 and 8 would be the lower abs.To Rmpr: that gym looks sick! i would love to go to a place like that. the gym im at is crap! that place looks awesome! the guys that work there sound properly professional so you should be in safe hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 ok well my advice to you would to be do some squats and dead lifts, then rate out of 10 how well worked your abs feel.then grab a 5 kg medicine ball. lay down. hold your arms out so you are completely flat with the ball resting on the ground over your head, do 3 sets of 8-12 reps of that and then rate out of 10 how hard you feel your abs have been worked...i dont know what text you are referring to. the stuff about how we define visible abs? then i htink you are right, if you are thinking of seeing a 6 pack, but like i said, thats just the shape of the muscle.its very rare to see a visible 8 pac, i dont know if i have ever seen one. but everybody has it.In reference to that picture, pac 7 and 8 would be the lower abs.To Rmpr: that gym looks sick! i would love to go to a place like that. the gym im at is crap! that place looks awesome! the guys that work there sound properly professional so you should be in safe hands.http://www.yourfitnessbook.com/exercise/six-pack-abs-vs-eight-pack-abs-whats-the-difference/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 http://www.yourfitnessbook.com/exercise/six-pack-abs-vs-eight-pack-abs-whats-the-difference/I dont know where to start with that.1. never trust someone who is trying to SELL you fitness. wether its a diet book, or a book on how to lose weight with simple exercises you can do at home. never trust them. they are trying to make money.2. he says: "For most men – the top 3 bands (not including the top band/connective tissue where you see the muscles attach to the front of the rib cage) are what creates the six packs abs look…" - the muscles that attach to the rib cage (the ones at the top of the abs) are probably the easiest muscles to work on the abs and they DO show through and DO make up part of the traditional six pack.3.he goes on to say its genetic, but then blurts out this:"Some experts will argue that with “stricter dieting” and “harder workouts” – you can eventually get your six packs to become eight pack abs…But if you’ve know me for a while – my philosophy on this is:Just give me the six pack – I don’t need two more – I have a life to live and it’s not ‘in the gym’…"which just contradicts himself as he is now saying that "yeah, with a strict work out and diet, we all have one. but fuck it, just get 6 and take it easy."4. he advertises his mates site a lot...My advice to anyone would be: don't take advice from anyone trying to sell or advertise something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I dont know where to start with that.1. never trust someone who is trying to SELL you fitness. wether its a diet book, or a book on how to lose weight with simple exercises you can do at home. never trust them. they are trying to make money.2. he says: "For most men – the top 3 bands (not including the top band/connective tissue where you see the muscles attach to the front of the rib cage) are what creates the six packs abs look…" - the muscles that attach to the rib cage (the ones at the top of the abs) are probably the easiest muscles to work on the abs and they DO show through and DO make up part of the traditional six pack.3.he goes on to say its genetic, but then blurts out this:"Some experts will argue that with “stricter dieting” and “harder workouts” – you can eventually get your six packs to become eight pack abs…But if you’ve know me for a while – my philosophy on this is:Just give me the six pack – I don’t need two more – I have a life to live and it’s not ‘in the gym’…"which just contradicts himself as he is now saying that "yeah, with a strict work out and diet, we all have one. but fuck it, just get 6 and take it easy."4. he advertises his mates site a lot...My advice to anyone would be: don't take advice from anyone trying to sell or advertise something.LOL, its common knowledge....GO read bodybuilding.comI don't know if you just started working out, but I'm sure if you go to a gym, the trainers will tell you the same info there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Anyways, the point is 6 pack is visible for all....However, the 8pack aint.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 LOL, its common knowledge....GO read bodybuilding.comI don't know if you just started working out, but I'm sure if you go to a gym, the trainers will tell you the same info there.... man, seriously?! bodybuilding.com is not a source of information. question everything you read there.and i think you forget what you were saying. earlier you were saying it was down to genes wether you had an 8 pack. now you are saying: "we all have an 8 pack, just its rare to see a visible 8 pack". which is what i said in my original post on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 man, seriously?! bodybuilding.com is not a source of information. question everything you read there.and i think you forget what you were saying. earlier you were saying it was down to genes wether you had an 8 pack. now you are saying: "we all have an 8 pack, just its rare to see a visible 8 pack". which is what i said in my original post on the subject.Well I meant visibilitiy since, the whole topic was about ab visibility....Having it meant, whether the abs are viisble are not... Wasn't this whole thread about ab visibility? Anyways, I guess we misunderstood it!Cheer mate. Best of luck with your workout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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