Marvin123 530 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 i personally believe that it was either we buy Hulk or..... Moses + a striker (maybe lewandowski?)either way... perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 i personally believe that it was either we buy Hulk or..... Moses + a striker (maybe lewandowski?)either way... perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 This is my exact feeling and fear myself.The moves we've made are great for the long term, but I think the experience and proven goal scoring that Drogba brought will be seriously missed if we don't bring someone in who no matter what, puts the ball in the back of the net i.e Falcao.We don't want to contract the Arsenal disease where we have all the potential but don't end up winning anything in the end. We're going in the right direction and it'll take time, but we just need one MAJOR piece to complete the team.Didier was with us for Eight seasons ...in only 2 he scored more than 16 in a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,903 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 So you guys don't have any worries that the Moses situation will mirror Lukaku's? A player very excited to come to Chelsea expecting to play a lot, but getting frustrated later when he realizes its not what he thought it would be. Will he really be happy not playing all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 So you guys don't have any worries that the Moses situation will mirror Lukaku's? A player very excited to come to Chelsea expecting to play a lot, but getting frustrated later when he realizes its not what he thought it would be. Will he really be happy not playing all the time?Not the same situation at all, not even close. With Lukaku he was competing with Drogba and a 50m signing. Who is Moses competing with? We havent got any RW: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Good price but we need someone who will be good enough to start in the first 11.I agree. Moses will give us a good alternative option on the right though. He'd be great for squad depth. We need to build a good starting XI, but it's also important to build a good squad. We don't want to contract the Arsenal disease where we have all the potential but don't end up winning anything in the end. We're going in the right direction and it'll take time, but we just need one MAJOR piece to complete the team.I see where you're coming from but I don't think the Arsenal situation is really comparable. The players we signed e.g. Oscar and Hazard were brought in to have an immediate impact on the first team. That's why they were so expensive. Someone like Hazard has great experience already too. I'd be as concerned as you were if we went on to sign the Songs, Djourous, Walcotts etc. (players who haven't established themselves at all, even in their national team) but that's not the case at all with us. Arsenal believed more in buying players for obscure fees, who they could then develop into good players, not world class ones. They've had cases when these players have gone on to be world class (Fabregas, RVP) but that's the exception rather than the norm. We've bought the next superstars. They buy players with decent potential. The nuclei of our squad is still strong, we've still got the likes of Cech, Ivanovic, JT, Ashley Cole, Essien, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda and Torres who've all got bags and bags of experience. Arsenal didn't really have that. I personally really like the way the squad's being shaped up. We're signing a mixture of potential (Romeu, Moses?, KDB, Courtois) and pretty established talent (Hazard, Oscar, Marin, Ramires, Luiz). We only need a couple more signings and we'd truly have a complete squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Not the same situation at all, not even close. With Lukaku he was competing with Drogba and a 50m signing. Who is Moses competing with? We havent got any RW:Yeah, I was just thinking we'd be lining up with Hazard on the right with Oscar in the middle and Mata on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter23 70 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Didier was with us for Eight seasons ...in only 2 he scored more than 16 in a seasondont ever belittle the king like that again, look at his goal scoring record in the UCL, he was lights out almost every year, ESPECIALLY when we needed him minus the 2008 ucl final. He started of poorly in 08-09 but saved us with his hattrick against liverpool. Whenever we needed drogba he was there and if barca didnt pay off the refs in 09, he got us like 2-3 penalties. Didier will be the greatest striker to have played for this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Yeah, I was just thinking we'd be lining up with Hazard on the right with Oscar in the middle and Mata on the left.I saw Hazard as a right winger,but he is far better than he plays left.Believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Yeah, I was just thinking we'd be lining up with Hazard on the right with Oscar in the middle and Mata on the left.I hope we will use Oscar in the double pivot, and if we dont have any intentions of doing that, I really hope we'll buy someone creative to put there because if we cannot be effective in the buildup play and use quick counters, I doubt we will be as effective as we want to. We wont be like Barca who can pass around the ball comfortably, then passing messi who gets pass 2-3 defenders. We wont create those spaces in the other teams defense. We need to counter fast and have a smooth and quick buildup player, have a link between the defence and offence and deliver the ball upfront. We wont have that with lamsp and mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I hope we will use Oscar in the double pivot, and if we dont have any intentions of doing that, I really hope we'll buy someone creative to put there because if we cannot be effective in the buildup play and use quick counters, I doubt we will be as effective as we want to. We wont be like Barca who can pass around the ball comfortably, then passing messi who gets pass 2-3 defenders. We wont create those spaces in the other teams defense. We need to counter fast and have a smooth and quick buildup player, have a link between the defence and offence and deliver the ball upfront. We wont have that with lamsp and mikel.Exactly why I'm desperate for us to get Hulk. That way Oscar can play in Lampard's position deeper in midfield.Rather than buying a striker and a RW, we'd be buying both in Hulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 dont ever belittle the king like that again, look at his goal scoring record in the UCL, he was lights out almost every year, ESPECIALLY when we needed him minus the 2008 ucl final. He started of poorly in 08-09 but saved us with his hattrick against liverpool. Whenever we needed drogba he was there and if barca didnt pay off the refs in 09, he got us like 2-3 penalties. Didier will be the greatest striker to have played for this club.I am not insulting him merely quoting statistics. You last sentence is open to dispute .. I saw Osgood .Drogba scored many vital great goals but he wasnt God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just get the feeling we're planning so far to the future that we're not focussing on players that can actually get the job done here and now. We're looking at great potential but maybe we're looking to develop them over a 3 year period without winning anything and then in 4 years time, we'll challenge. I like Moses a lot, as i like Hazard, Marin, Romeu, Lukaku, Oscar etc but we're not gonna win much with so much inexperience and youth in the team.Just seems to me like this is Robbies team to develop for 2 years then Guardiola to finish it off.HEY HEY HEY lets not do the whole '' you don't win anything with kids'' again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think the EPL is a bit different to what is was in '93 lol. It will be very difficult to think we can win such a league full of players under 23 years old. Especially going to Old Trafford, Anfield, Emirates etc. I can actually see us being the best team in the world, honestly but we might go 3 years without any trophies first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Football Agent 007 @EPLAgent007Minor details need to be agreed and of course the medical needs to be completed yet, but he's effectively a Chelsea player. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think the EPL is a bit different to what is was in '93 lol. It will be very difficult to think we can win such a league full of players under 23 years old. Especially going to Old Trafford, Anfield, Emirates etc. I can actually see us being the best team in the world, honestly but we might go 3 years without any trophies first.agree BUT in April I was CERTAIN we wouldnt win a trophy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think the EPL is a bit different to what is was in '93 lol. It will be very difficult to think we can win such a league full of players under 23 years old. Especially going to Old Trafford, Anfield, Emirates etc. I can actually see us being the best team in the world, honestly but we might go 3 years without any trophies first.i don`t mind the wait if it comes to it( waited 21 years to see Chelsea win a major domestic trophy) tho i wouldn`t want to be a mod on here during that time. but i think RDM will atleast give them a chance to show they are good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hope for a striker to come with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanocfc 22 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I don't understand it. We need a goal scorer? It's not like we have a team that creates lots and lots of chances only for whoever's playing upfront to miss the majority of them.What we need, is to sort out the way we play. We need that more than anything else. If we can get the tactics, the movement and the mechanics of the side right THEN we can judge whether we need a goal scorer or not. IMO, even the most potent goalscoring striker wouldn't maximise his goal return with the way we currently play.Buying a goal scorer is not going to solve the fact that we can't even get the ball to the goal scorer enough times.Drogba, Torres and Sturridge are goal scorers by nature. If we couldn't get them guys to score a lot of goals last season then the problem is clearly not eridicated by simply buying another goal scorer.We need to build a squad that'll allow us to tackle different problems and different situations. Signing Victor Moses, who's available at a decent price, would certainly help towards that.That doesn't make sense to me. Of course we need to get our tactics right, especially with all the new recruits. But that takes time to happen. The transfer window shuts on August 31st so if we aren't playing well it might be too late. The fact is that we have lost our best striker in Drogba, and another frustrating, but handy, striker in Kalou. All the top clubs have at least 3 strikers capable of playing every week against the other top sides. With a shaky Torres, unproven centre forward in Sturridge and a young but very raw Lukaku (who may be going out on loan), we don't look the most well equipped in the striker department. Having one added striker would provide a more complete squad and then hopefully, after a few months of playing together, our team will start to gel and we will be seeing some good attacking football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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