The Chelsea-Vitesse Thread

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

2 hours ago, the wes said:

What 5 players can u see break into the squad??

Top of my list are:
Pasalic, in time, he could become a very valuable squad player, depending on his progress, maybe something more.
Musonda, this is a obvious one.
Boga, would need a better loan, maybe two, and see how he progresses.
Christensen, another obvious one.
Solanke, maybe as a squad player in the future, if these contracts talks will come to a fruitful ending.
I honestly can't see anyone else breaking into the team, and we'll be lucky if half of the ones i listed will make it.

[Yeboii 1,844]

He has a point. Baker, Solanke and Brown are probably much better than their players. Nathan is really good as well. I don't really know anything about Pantic though.

[jernej93 569]

17 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Top of my list are:
Pasalic, in time, he could become a very valuable squad player, depending on his progress, maybe something more.
Musonda, this is a obvious one.
Boga, would need a better loan, maybe two, and see how he progresses.
Christensen, another obvious one.
Solanke, maybe as a squad player in the future, if these contracts talks will come to a fruitful ending.
I honestly can't see anyone else breaking into the team, and we'll be lucky if half of the ones i listed will make it.

 

Ake, Baker and Van Ginkel also. Too bad that the latest had so many injuries in most important years of his career but he is playing great in PSV.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

6 minutes ago, jernej93 said:

 

Ake, Baker and Van Ginkel also. Too bad that the latest had so many injuries in most important years of his career but he is playing great in PSV.

Forgot about Aké  I don't think Baker will make in all honesty, but maybe it's too soon to judge, haven't seen all that much of him this season.

[jernej93 569]

29 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Forgot about Aké  I don't think Baker will make in all honesty, but maybe it's too soon to judge, haven't seen all that much of him this season.

I am not sure about Baker either tbh  But Van Ginkel is a pretty interesting player ... he could be rotation player for Fabregas in deep lying playmaker position

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

People still think Chelsea buy players to actually play for the team? I've said it before I'll say it again. Most of these guys are bought in, loaned out and hopefully sold for a profit. It's simple human trafficking.

Piet de Visser has been quite vocal and critical of Chelsea and Mourinho lately. I can't say I disagree with him either.

Not really, they are signed to play for the team if good enough, and it has its advantages, in Courtois we basically (for all intents and purposes) signed a world class goalkeeper for nothing in 2014.

If one Courtois level player can creep out of the woodwork every three years then that alone vindicates the loan system we use, Christensen looks set to be the next one, if a midfielder follows suit in say 2018/19 that's a world class spine assembled by the loan system.

[Yeboii 1,844]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Not really, they are signed to play for the team if good enough, and it has its advantages, in Courtois we basically (for all intents and purposes) signed a world class goalkeeper for nothing in 2014.

If one Courtois level player can creep out of the woodwork every three years then that alone vindicates the loan system we use, Christensen looks set to be the next one, if a midfielder follows suit in say 2018/19 that's a world class spine assembled by the loan system.

I agree. People can point out players, that have not worked out, all day long, but we must remember that the loan system provided football with players like De Bruyne and Courtois! 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Not really, they are signed to play for the team if good enough, and it has its advantages, in Courtois we basically (for all intents and purposes) signed a world class goalkeeper for nothing in 2014.

If one Courtois level player can creep out of the woodwork every three years then that alone vindicates the loan system we use, Christensen looks set to be the next one, if a midfielder follows suit in say 2018/19 that's a world class spine assembled by the loan system.

I feel like we go over this process time and time again  

There's no doubt the youth transfer market is a market of its own. Behaving in an entirely different way to the 'professional' transfer market. You're not just buying potential for yourself you're buying on their value and such. 

Personally, I don't know how I feel about it. Our academy is a treasure chest right now, the replication of the Busy Babe's record in FAYC is a feat that should be shown off. Their time is quickly upon us and I'd dread to think the repercussions of screwing these guys up. 

I don't want to bring up the generation we've let go again, but we're gonna have to do a lot better than one Courtois every 3 years..

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

Not really, they are signed to play for the team if good enough, and it has its advantages, in Courtois we basically (for all intents and purposes) signed a world class goalkeeper for nothing in 2014.

If one Courtois level player can creep out of the woodwork every three years then that alone vindicates the loan system we use, Christensen looks set to be the next one, if a midfielder follows suit in say 2018/19 that's a world class spine assembled by the loan system.

Can't agree with this, at all. Would you say that the day we signed, say Cuevas, Perica, Wallace, Nathan, Rodriguez, Hector, you said, this is a good signing for the future, they will be good enough for us. (Probably after watching youtube videos, because that's what i often did.  )
One thing is signing Courtois, KdB, (I wouldn't include Christensen in this category) because you know they are going to be huge talents, another is buying players because, whatever it is the reason we buy those kind of players. It is only natural that in the mix of 30+ players on loan, an average of 2 or 3 will be decent to good players.
Why don't, instead, do some proper homework, and sign only players we know are going to be useful and will make it in the team.
In short, I really can't bring myself to like this loan system we adoperate.

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are now even loaning coaches to Vitesse Arnhem

http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/11/chelsea-are-now-even-loaning-coaches-to-vitesse-arnhem-6000750/#ixzz4E7wMp3B1

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Thays mental. Perhaps we're trying to win the dutch league because we have fuck all chance of the Prem

[Jase 43,479]

Please use this thread for any general discussion related to Vitesse from now. Cheers.