CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True, and that's because he isn't always injured. I remember a game against Newcastle. Robben dribbled everyone from our own half and went on to score. Hazard wouldn't even do that. He would have gone sideways you know, and get fouled in a non-dangerous area of the pitch.A fit Robben was any day better IMOI remember once that Robben got a hard tackle, broke his shoulder or something like that. He seemed to be afraid after that when he came back. Jumping out and stopping the attack instead of riding the challenge - I partly blame it for the reason he chose to leave the premier league for the less aggressive Spanish league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well yea obviously, but I'm not living in a dreamworld. We're a great club and grew alot in stature but I don't get why so many think we can just snap our fingers and sign a couple of world class talents like Bale, Reus or Isco.Add the mediacircus that would be circling Chelsea should Eden leave to a club/manager with an attacking philosophy.. not the ideal circumstance to attract quality attacking players.Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m In all seriousness though, maybe we could use that to work in our favour. With Hazard out, maybe Reus would like the idea of being THE man at Chelsea, who makes it tick in midfield, etc etcBut if our team in 16/17 is Courtois Azpi Varane Zouma BabaKenedy Matic RLC Reus Solanke Costa(and all players like to their potential)with a bench including players like Oscar, Willian, Terry (player/coach) etc etc then we will win many, many things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True, and that's because he isn't always injured. I remember a game against Newcastle. Robben dribbled everyone from our own half and went on to score. Hazard wouldn't even do that. He would have gone sideways you know, and get fouled in a non-dangerous area of the pitch.A fit Robben was any day better IMOEveryone's entitled to his opinion, but Hazard is far more influential than Robben ever was with us. Robben was more direct, but in terms of combining in small spaces and the oponent's box, Eden is unmatched. Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m Not only the media, but also the player's idea of what playing at Chelsea under Mourinho would be like. It sure is an important factor in the player's choice when it comes to going to a new club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m We don't, but the players we want to buy might =) CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 We don't, but the players we want to buy might =)Well yeah hahaIf I were Jose I would ask Zola to come back and do attacking coaching - he could teach our whole front 5 many, many things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m In all seriousness though, maybe we could use that to work in our favour. With Hazard out, maybe Reus would like the idea of being THE man at Chelsea, who makes it tick in midfield, etc etcBut if our team in 16/17 is Courtois Azpi Varane Zouma BabaKenedy Matic RLC Reus Solanke Costa(and all players like to their potential)with a bench including players like Oscar, Willian, Terry (player/coach) etc etc then we will win many, many thingsHave you seen Reus play this season? He's been terrible for his standards. Worse than Hazard imo. He was even benched against Bayern for that reason.Solanke, Kenedy? What the heck? Reus and Varane. Bless your optimistic heart. Stats, Essien19, zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Have you seen Reus play this season? He's been terrible for his standards. Worse than Hazard imo. He was even benched against Bayern for that reason.Solanke, Kenedy? What the heck? Reus and Varane. Bless your optimistic heart.Kenedy has been very good this season when he's played, and Solanke at 17 years of age is taking Vitesse by storm. I have every reason to believe that in 2 years they will be Chelsea quality.If we get Varane out of the Hazard deal as well as Hazard that's a good deal. Reus has been terrible, sure, but then surely it makes no difference and getting the best defender in Europe is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kenedy has been very good this season when he's played, and Solanke at 17 years of age is taking Vitesse by storm. I have every reason to believe that in 2 years they will be Chelsea quality.If we get Varane out of the Hazard deal as well as Hazard that's a good deal. Reus has been terrible, sure, but then surely it makes no difference and getting the best defender in Europe is worth it.The best defender in Europe would be a regular starter for more than a few matches don't you think? And best-case scenario for Solanke next season is third choice, nothing more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kenedy has been very good this season when he's played, and Solanke at 17 years of age is taking Vitesse by storm. I have every reason to believe that in 2 years they will be Chelsea quality.If we get Varane out of the Hazard deal as well as Hazard that's a good deal. Reus has been terrible, sure, but then surely it makes no difference and getting the best defender in Europe is worth it.Solanke is not going to be leading our line, LOL. Kenedy has good potential but let's not overrate him. He is not going to be in our team on a consistent basis and highly unlikely we will play with a 4-4-2. DYC. and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Solanke is not going to be leading our line, LOL. Kenedy has good potential but let's not overrate him. He is not going to be in our team on a consistent basis and highly unlikely we will play with a 4-4-2.Playing as a second striker is not leading the line... Diego would. And who's to say Mourinho would not play a 4-4-2? Just last season he said that he would certainly consider it.And @Simon that's not the case if we play 4-4-2. It's a different system with different requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Playing as a second striker is not leading the line... Diego would. And who's to say Mourinho would not play a 4-4-2? Just last season he said that he would certainly consider it.And @Simon that's not the case if we play 4-4-2. It's a different system with different requirements.Solanke is not going to be starting for us next season. Regardless of how he performs at Vitesse. He will be 18 at the start of next season and there is no way we are going to throw him in our team. Just look at Traore who is rotting away this season. He was excellent at Vitesse last season and barely makes the match squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted October 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kenedy has been very good this season when he's played, and Solanke at 17 years of age is taking Vitesse by storm. I have every reason to believe that in 2 years they will be Chelsea quality.If we get Varane out of the Hazard deal as well as Hazard that's a good deal. Reus has been terrible, sure, but then surely it makes no difference and getting the best defender in Europe is worth it.Kenedy has done a decent job. I love the boy's commitment but he lacks the necessary talent for a title winning side imo.Taking Vitesse by storm. That's quite the exaggeration. He hasn't even been Vitesse's best player this season. I love the fact that he's playing but he has such a long way to go. I hope he stays at Vitesse until he manages to score around 25 goals in the league. More even. He doesn't stand a chance to become a backup striker for Chelsea if he doesn't, let alone a starter. But I really like him.Why do people think Varane would leave Real for Chelsea? It's Real Madrid. Real decides to sell players but players rarely leave because they want to. And it's hard to get Reus. He loves Dortmund and if he leaves, everyone wants him. Chelsea have struggled to buy world-class players. I don't think the club can compete with the very best. They succeeded with Torres and Sheva, but both players ended up as complete failures sadly. Henrique, zolayes, Peace. and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Some of you guys are going to get some firm and funky replys in a few weeks. Djeez. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kenedy has done a decent job. I love the boy's commitment but he lacks the necessary talent for a title winning side imo.Taking Vitesse by storm. That's quite the exaggeration. He hasn't even been Vitesse's best player this season. I love the fact that he's playing but he has such a long way to go. I hope he stays at Vitesse until he manages to score around 25 goals in the league. More even. He doesn't stand a chance to become a backup striker for Chelsea if he doesn't, let alone a starter. But I really like him.Why do people think Varane would leave Real for Chelsea? It's Real Madrid. Real decides to sell players but players rarely leave because they want to. And it's hard to get Reus. He loves Dortmund and if he leaves, everyone wants him. Chelsea have struggled to buy world-class players. I don't think the club can compete with the very best. They succeeded with Torres and Sheva, but both players ended up as complete failures sadly.where has this myth come from that Chelsea have struggled to buy world class players??? what world class players have we actually put bids in for over the years? the only one i can think of is Modric, he wanted to sign for us but he played for Spurs and they would never sell to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kenedy has done a decent job. I love the boy's commitment but he lacks the necessary talent for a title winning side imo.Taking Vitesse by storm. That's quite the exaggeration. He hasn't even been Vitesse's best player this season. I love the fact that he's playing but he has such a long way to go. I hope he stays at Vitesse until he manages to score around 25 goals in the league. More even. He doesn't stand a chance to become a backup striker for Chelsea if he doesn't, let alone a starter. But I really like him.Why do people think Varane would leave Real for Chelsea? It's Real Madrid. Real decides to sell players but players rarely leave because they want to. And it's hard to get Reus. He loves Dortmund and if he leaves, everyone wants him. Chelsea have struggled to buy world-class players. I don't think the club can compete with the very best. They succeeded with Torres and Sheva, but both players ended up as complete failures sadly.This. Varane is not going to leave Real. He is at a better team than us and when these rumours were happening this was last season when he could not get in Ancelotti's team. He has played nearly every game for Real this season and will keep his place even when both Ramos and Pepe are fit. He has no reason to leave and a club of Real's wealth would be ludicrous to let a player of his quality and the best defender of his generation go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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