Eden Hazard

[Billy. 2,742]

So come on then who still thinks he should be starting each week then?

[Stats 7,054]

So come on then who still thinks he should be starting each week then?

He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him.

[Oscar 441]

He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him.

Don't understand.

Willian had a good free kick goal and that's it....

Hazard playing poorly, yet it is Oscar's fault?

[Billy. 2,742]

He should be but under a new coach. Pedro did not do anything. Oscar was awful once again. Willian was decent. We dropped him in midweek and apart from Willian the other attacking mids did not conver themselves in glory. Hazard is playing poor but the problems lie deeper than him.

I only reason im digging him out the most is because he always gets defended by the fans because he is meant to be this world beater, but he is so far from that its not even funny anymore.

If he is as good as he is made out to be he should be dragging this team to play better, i go back to Ronaldo when real look poor he always steps up and wins games on his own.

Hazard along with Ivanovic for me have been the two worst players from start up to today, and the fact them two keep getting picked is mind blowing.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

everyone in the attack is poor, this is down to Mourinho. Simple

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

He can't even dribble past anyone anymore. Like I said I still think this guy is one of the poorest 'big name' player for us for a long time purely because of his mentality not his ability, he can throw eggs at my face by ending this season with 20 goals/assists combined but somehow unless a managerial change happen I doubt it.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

But he could imo, guy was fucking class.

But you think Hazard is playing world class atm so shows how much you know

I cant believe i am about to ask this.

Who Barcelona drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Bayern drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Real Madrid drop for a 40 year old Paul scholes?

you are seriously delusional if you think Scholes could even get into any PL team at age 40, especially when you see how bad he was in the last few years of his career!

and please show me where i said Hazard was playing world class atm???

[Billy. 2,742]

I cant believe i am about to ask this.

Who Barcelona drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Bayern drop for a 40 year old Paul Scholes? who would Real Madrid drop for a 40 year old Paul scholes?

you are seriously delusional if you think Scholes could even get into any PL team at age 40, especially when you see how bad he was in the last few years of his career!

and please show me where i said Hazard was playing world class atm???

Alright maybe i should have worded it with 'prime' before.

So now your saying you have not been sticking up for Hazard? He has been one of our worst players this season. Surely you can see that? Guy needs to be dropped and dropped hard.

I cannot be arsed to go over loads of pages tbh.

And he will never reach his full ability under Jose. Sad but true

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Alright maybe i should have worded it with 'prime' before.

So now your saying you have not been sticking up for Hazard? He has been one of our worst players this season. Surely you can see that? Guy needs to be dropped and dropped hard.

I cannot be arsed to go over loads of pages tbh.

And he will never reach his full ability under Jose. Sad but true

i would say Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Oscar and Remy have all been worse then Hazard

He obviously needs to play better, but there is not much more he can do when everyone around him are also playing bad.

[Billy. 2,742]

i would say Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Oscar and Remy have all been worse then Hazard

He obviously needs to play better, but there is not much more he can do when everyone around him are also playing bad.

See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.

But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.

And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.

I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again

[robsblubot 3,504]

See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.

But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.

And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.

I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again

It may not be down to manager or style of play and more to lack of dedication from him or even physical limitations.

Genetics determine the absolute limit... But it's up to him to reach it and sometimes the players don't want go pay the sometimes very high price of absolute dedication. That's what it takes to be Ronaldo and messi.

Just to be clear, I am not talking exclusively about what he does on the pitch but also and especially off of it.

@poster below

No that's not a fact. That's your opinion. The facts are his quantitatively small contribution today and in the games before.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.

But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.

And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.

I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again

no its not excuses its fact!

there are 8 or 9 players not just underperforming in our team but are in horrible form and low on confidence, even Messi and Ronaldo would look bad in the same situation

[Billy. 2,742]

no its not excuses its fact!

there are 8 or 9 players not just underperforming in our team but are in horrible form and low on confidence, even Messi and Ronaldo would look bad in the same situation

Doubt they would seeing as they are in fact world class players who can win a game on there own

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Doubt they would seeing as they are in fact world class players who can win a game on there own

yes when they are surrounded by top players in good form. That is not the case for Hazard

[herzogian 148]

See for me thats more excuses, yeah those player you said have been bad.

But like ive said before and the reason i dig him more then others is, He is meant to be a 'world beater' 'Superstar' 'World class' 'In the same league as messi and ronaldo'. And yeah he has got the ability to become all that, but for him to do that he needs to rise up above an under preforming team and shine and make shit happen or do it himself. And he dont all I've seen him do this season is get the ball fanny about with it and then pass it back to dave or inside to Fabregas.

And like we all know Ronaldo and Messi can lift their teams or do it on their own.

I just think under Jose he will never be the player he can be because we all know he dont like coming back to help and that is starting to show again

You and Mou overestimated Hazard. He isn't and will never be in the league of Messi and Ronaldo. He's a very good player and last season we saw him in his best shape. But he's not able to get us out of this desperate situation. I think he's not the leadertype, not the type that steps up when thing are going bad. Some players just aren't made for that. I concur that José's tactics are holding him back though.

[Billy. 2,742]

yes when they are surrounded by top players in good form. That is not the case for Hazard

Right so your telling me that on more then 20 times for Real when they are playing sooooooooooooo poor that Ronaldo has not picked the ball up done some twinkle toes stuff got into the box and smashed the ball in? Yes he has because he can step it up when his club needs him.

Also you are telling me that on more than 20 times for Barca when they are playing sooooooooooooooooooo poor that Messi has not picked the ball up beat like 5-6 men and scored some amazing goal? Yes he has because he can step up when his club needs him.

I can recall Hazard doing that a few times when we was playing just OKAY a needed a spark. Right now he seems be hiding away like a coward.

But now ive just seen that Hazard it your Fav player so is there any point in this convo? Prob not.

But the fact is right now Hazard is rubbish and needs to be dropped.

Not trying to be a dick to you at all on this bit but take the Hazard glasses off dude and while your at it tell Jose to aswell or will wont be having midweek football next season because we will end up staying in the bottom half.

[Billy. 2,742]

You and Mou overestimated Hazard. He isn't and will never be in the league of Messi and Ronaldo. He's a very good player and last season we saw him in his best shape. But he's not able to get us out of this desperate situation. I think he's not the leadertype, not the type that steps up when thing are going bad. Some players just aren't made for that. I concur that José's tactics are holding him back though.

I not saying he is mate, Im just saying what others say about him.

I think he is a little over rated. He has got the ability to be great but i dont think he will live up to it

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Right so your telling me that on more then 20 times for Real when they are playing sooooooooooooo poor that Ronaldo has not picked the ball up done some twinkle toes stuff got into the box and smashed the ball in? Yes he has because he can step it up when his club needs him.

Also you are telling me that on more than 20 times for Barca when they are playing sooooooooooooooooooo poor that Messi has not picked the ball up beat like 5-6 men and scored some amazing goal? Yes he has because he can step up when his club needs him.

Yes i am.

and neither Messi or Ronaldo have been in a situation like Hazard is in right now.

and come on then name these 20+ times that Messi and Ronaldo have saved their teams who have been playing as bad as us, come on name them, i hate when people post such BS, and cant back it up.