Weckerz 3,781 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Robguima said: They are inferior players, but not that far behind and sane has insane potential. Waaaay behind brother Tomo, DYC., Blue Armour and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Its going to hurt us fans and the club when Eden jumps ship but we gotta get used to the fact now that day will come. And to me I can only see him going to RM or PSG. It cracked me up reading that ridiculous piece about Mounure wanting him and saying they would get him for £90mill! As what I remamber Edeb was reportedly over the moon when Maureen left (I'll call him Mou afain when hes not in Manc land) And he never shook hands with him hen we played them. All I hope is we use all the transfer money we get on his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Its going to hurt us fans and the club when Eden jumps ship but we gotta get used to the fact now that day will come. And to me I can only see him going to RM or PSG. It cracked me up reading that ridiculous piece about Mounure wanting him and saying they would get him for £90mill! As what I remamber Edeb was reportedly over the moon when Maureen left (I'll call him Mou afain when hes not in Manc land) And he never shook hands with him hen we played them. All I hope is we use all the transfer money we get on his replacement. The way ZZ going at real he won't be manager of Real for to long maybe we can hire him has an assistant coach to keep hazard lol Merry Christmas mate have a good one this year Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, the wes said: The way ZZ going at real he won't be manager of Real for to long maybe we can hire him has an assistant coach to keep hazard lol Merry Christmas mate have a good one this year =D Yeah the Dons right hand man. But you get what I mean yeah. And the same to you chap. A happy 'n healthy 2018 to you and yours. I'm taking that long trek to North London on the 3rd. Be my first game this season. Relieve some stress and hope the lads don't give me some more the wes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Its going to hurt us fans and the club when Eden jumps ship but we gotta get used to the fact now that day will come. And to me I can only see him going to RM or PSG. It cracked me up reading that ridiculous piece about Mounure wanting him and saying they would get him for £90mill! As what I remamber Edeb was reportedly over the moon when Maureen left (I'll call him Mou afain when hes not in Manc land) And he never shook hands with him hen we played them. All I hope is we use all the transfer money we get on his replacement. Mourinho and Hazard greeted each other when they've met last time. Recently Hazard also said that he wouldn't mind playing under Jose again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 [Breaking] Eden Hazard has suffered a major shoulder injury for carrying Chelsea Football club on his shoulders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, pHaRaOn said: Recently Hazard also said that he wouldn't mind playing under Jose again. I read that he never shook hands with him. Bloomin press you don't know which to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,730 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 People talk about a team with 11 Azpi's, but what we really need to get going is a team of 2 Hazards. Honestly what I would give for just 1 player close to his attacking caliber in Jan, who can take part in combination plays... The thing is with Willian, Pedro and Fabregas moving out of their prime, they are no longer performing as well as they did last season. This is where we are coming up short at times, and the Everton game is a good example of that. Having Morata combine with Hazard makes up for it somewhat, but Alvaro is still young and inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 11:46 AM, Weckerz said: Waaaay behind brother nah he's better, but I wish he were as good as you make him out to be. I often speak with other PL fans, (most pool fans) and none seem as crazy about Eden as Chelsea and Belgium fans. Personally I think he's a great player, but nowhere the level of the best players in the word and never will be, again IMO. 14 hours ago, Blue Armour said: People talk about a team with 11 Azpi's, but what we really need to get going is a team of 2 Hazards. Honestly what I would give for just 1 player close to his attacking caliber in Jan, who can take part in combination plays... The thing is with Willian, Pedro and Fabregas moving out of their prime, they are no longer performing as well as they did last season. This is where we are coming up short at times, and the Everton game is a good example of that. Having Morata combine with Hazard makes up for it somewhat, but Alvaro is still young and inconsistent. I have a different take here: it's not so much how good Hazard is but how insufficient our squad is, and esp the players you mentioned. Most hazard fans thing he'd blossom elsewhere due to the limitations imposed to him by the lack of overall quality in the squad, but I look a his game and just don't see it in him. He's like Ozil in different packaging: great player but without the drive and the ambition to become one of the greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, Robguima said: nah he's better, but I wish he were as good as you make him out to be. I often speak with other PL fans, (most pool fans) and none seem as crazy about Eden as Chelsea and Belgium fans. Personally I think he's a great player, but nowhere the level of the best players in the word and never will be, again IMO. I have a different take here: it's not so much how good Hazard is but how insufficient our squad is, and esp the players you mentioned. Most hazard fans thing he'd blossom elsewhere due to the limitations imposed to him by the lack of overall quality in the squad, but I look a his game and just don't see it in him. He's like Ozil in different packaging: great player but without the drive and the ambition to become one of the greats. The thing is that theres 2 Edens. 1 is a lazyish can't be arsed spoiled kid and the other is a cheeky,dancing,'Lets fuckin get this party started' player. When Eden comes out on the pitch and hes got that sly grin and hes doing his bobbing weaving dance moves then the lads unplayable. Now if we could find some gear to give him pre game to get him in that mood we would win most games. Sod that lets give it to all the lads - fuck it I'll have some too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Unionjack said: The thing is that theres 2 Edens. 1 is a lazyish can't be arsed spoiled kid and the other is a cheeky,dancing,'Lets fuckin get this party started' player. When Eden comes out on the pitch and hes got that sly grin and hes doing his bobbing weaving dance moves then the lads unplayable. Now if we could find some gear to give him pre game to get him in that mood we would win most games. Sod that lets give it to all the lads - fuck it I'll have some too!! haha yeah true that! Ironically he actually lacks creativity IMO: it's like you said, a "dancer", but sometimes a different take would work best, but he's always the "dancer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 31 minutes ago, Robguima said: always the "dancer." I'd love it if he was bruv cause that Eden gets the rest of the lads on their toes trying to keep up with him. The only thing I'd like from him is to be more direct and goal hungry. But hes never going to be the worlds top scorer when he thinks like that himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 There are talks of Zidane getting the sack at the end of the season, especially if he doesn't win the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Robguima said: nah he's better, but I wish he were as good as you make him out to be. I often speak with other PL fans, (most pool fans) and none seem as crazy about Eden as Chelsea and Belgium fans. Personally I think he's a great player, but nowhere the level of the best players in the word and never will be, again IMO. If they are trying to claim he is just a normal player they are beyond jealous or know nothing about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthon_nini 21 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 14 hours ago, Robguima said: Personally I think he's a great player, but nowhere the level of the best players in the word and never will be, again I Lol okay. Im sure you can think of so many “best players” that Hazard is nowhere near. I’m sure most managers and players don’t think he’s one of the very best. I mean why rate a player who has been instrumental in two title wins especially when his team plays defensive football. He’s obviously can’t be as good as we think that’s why people keep comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo. I mean when KDB or Sanchez play well they are said to be the best in the league, when Hazard performs he’s said to be one of the best in the world. These ex players and managers really do overrate him for some reason. I think either most managers and football experts are grossly overrating him at the same time or maybe you’re underrating him. I wonder which is more probable 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Anthon_nini said: Lol okay. Im sure you can think of so many “best players” that Hazard is nowhere near. I’m sure most managers and players don’t think he’s one of the very best. I mean why rate a player who has been instrumental in two title wins especially when his team plays defensive football. He’s obviously can’t be as good as we think that’s why people keep comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo. I mean when KDB or Sanchez play well they are said to be the best in the league, when Hazard performs he’s said to be one of the best in the world. These ex players and managers really do overrate him for some reason. I think either most managers and football experts are grossly overrating him at the same time or maybe you’re underrating him. I wonder which is more probable 🤔 Only folks in here keep comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo that was my point earlier. you seem to have some information that I don’t: what every manager in the world thinks of hazard so i will leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthon_nini 21 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Robguima said: Only folks in here keep comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo that was my point earlier. Ferdinand https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/612838/Eden-Hazard-Rio-Ferdinand-Chelsea-News-Lionel-Messi-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Neymar/amp Souness https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/887319/Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Newcastle-Lionel-Messi-Barcelona-Real-Madrid-Cristiano-Ronaldo/amp Fabs https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/10848821/chelseas-eden-hazard-is-second-only-to-lionel-messi-in-ability-says-cesc-fabregas Zizou https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/liga/2014-2015/zinedine-zidane-eden-hazard-in-same-class-as-lionel-messi-and-cristiano-ronaldo_sto4687619/story.shtml You were saying? Lol it’s fine to say you don’t understand why they rate him so highly or say you think he’s not performing at his potential should suggest. However, for a Chelsea fan that actually watches this guy play and not just look at MOTD and stats, and then thinking he’s overrated is very amusing. Please name those very best players that can replace Hazard in this team that can actually improve this current side, excluding Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 24 minutes ago, Anthon_nini said: Ferdinand https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/612838/Eden-Hazard-Rio-Ferdinand-Chelsea-News-Lionel-Messi-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Neymar/amp Souness https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/887319/Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Newcastle-Lionel-Messi-Barcelona-Real-Madrid-Cristiano-Ronaldo/amp Fabs https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/10848821/chelseas-eden-hazard-is-second-only-to-lionel-messi-in-ability-says-cesc-fabregas Zizou https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/liga/2014-2015/zinedine-zidane-eden-hazard-in-same-class-as-lionel-messi-and-cristiano-ronaldo_sto4687619/story.shtml You were saying? Lol it’s fine to say you don’t understand why they rate him so highly or say you think he’s not performing at his potential should suggest. However, for a Chelsea fan that actually watches this guy play and not just look at MOTD and stats, and then thinking he’s overrated is very amusing. Please name those very best players that can replace Hazard in this team that can actually improve this current side, excluding Messi. You can’t possibly be this naive... do we selectively listen to managers and pundits when it fits our agenda or perhaps it fits theirs? of course they will say great things about eden - they all want him! That’s not the point again... we are pitting him against the best or some are. And it’s still a bit short of every manager... Or most managers... some not even managers. i will be convinced when they put money where their mouth is. Sign him as a key player perhaps replacing another... then we will see. im not trying to convince anyone - I have my opinion and you have yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthon_nini 21 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Robguima said: You can’t possibly be this naive... do we selectively listen to managers and pundits when it fits our agenda or perhaps it fits theirs? of course they will say great things about eden - they all want him! That’s not the point again... we are pitting him against the best or some are. And it’s still a bit short of every manager... Or most managers... some not even managers. i will be convinced when they put money where their mouth is. Sign him as a key player perhaps replacing another... then we will see. im not trying to convince anyone - I have my opinion and you have yours. Well let’s agree to disagree. I’m just curious as to who this supposedly great players are that are that better than Eden. If you think he’s overrated and you’ve actually watched a lot of our games then I have no words for you. We just see football differently. Merry Xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,245 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 He doesn't score enough goals to be honest. Neither does he assist enough. He is obviously our best player and has been for quite some time but he will never reach his true potential when playing alongside these donkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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