Hkibou 622 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hazard needs better teammates in the attacking 3 positions behind the striker (looking at Willian and Oscar), world class or close to that. Same story as last season. One guy putting in super-human efforts, his teammates not on the same wavelength.We must do everything within our power to sign Reus or Bale if we have any serious hopes of winning the CL in the near future.I'd really like Chelsea to give a second chance for Gervinho to express his talent in the Premier League. They know each other very well and are kind on the same wave length, with different profiles of course but very compatible. In Ligue 1 they were unbelievably good in some matches. Both being young they struggled to be consistent, but when they were in top conditions both at the same time, you could see the tremendous potential of their companionship. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Eto last yearAnd Mata iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Let's not forget that De Bruyne was stuck to the side of the pitch and focused primarily at working for the team and gave the free role completely to Hazard. I think Wilmots has said too much to De Bruyne that he can't run in the way of Hazard. Yesterday, De Bruyne was too limited in his role, I missed his qualities sometimes in the game. The way we played against Cyprus can't be the way we wish to play.Imo they're not that compatible. Which is why you won't see me crying about Chelsea resigning KDB.Hazard needs to be the main man to shine like he does at Chelsea, KDB needs the same to play like he does for Wolfsburg.Put them both on the same team, and one will definitely have to take the backseat. Tomo, Joker10, nadavTKL and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You fellas are weird. When he doesn't score, people will moan he doesn't score enough. When he scores, people suddenly take it for granted and say 'oh, it's only Cyprus. so, it's no big deal'. And there has hardly been anything over the top about the reaction.This. Some on the forum need to get laid. It will reduce the chronic moaning. Really, I mean it.... Stop making this forum so toxic. Atholy and nadavTKL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 The goal he scored is a prime example of what doesn't happen often enough here with his teammates. I've seen Hazard go for a one two around the box countless times but our other forward players aren't even aware of what he's trying to do. The only one I've seen have that understanding and link up well with him is DrogbaI think Cesc and Oscar link up with Hazard very good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Imo they're not that compatible. Which is why you won't see me crying about Chelsea resigning KDB.Hazard needs to be the main man to shine like he does at Chelsea, KDB needs the same to play like he does for Wolfsburg.Put them both on the same team, and one will definitely have to take the backseat.Exactly. And the same goes with Mata. And Hazard is off course better than both by miles. I think thats one of the reasons Jose didnt liked them, they're not 'pure team players' like Oscar and Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Imo they're not that compatible. Which is why you won't see me crying about Chelsea resigning KDB.Hazard needs to be the main man to shine like he does at Chelsea, KDB needs the same to play like he does for Wolfsburg.Put them both on the same team, and one will definitely have to take the backseat.Ofcourse they can play perfectly together. It's just Wilmots that is tactical one big mess and brings a problem where there is no problem at all. With a normal coach that doesn't create tactical problems, they would shine together. A player that dribbles where you normally can't dribble with a player that passes where you normally can't pass, the combination of those two can finish every team in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 114 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Exactly. And the same goes with Mata. And Hazard is off course better than both by miles. I think thats one of the reasons Jose didnt liked them, they're not 'pure team players' like Oscar and Willian.Well Kevin was yesterday, he did not try to push Eden away or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppi85 110 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Let's not forget that De Bruyne was stuck to the side of the pitch and focused primarily at working for the team and gave the free role completely to Hazard. I think Wilmots has said too much to De Bruyne that he can't run in the way of Hazard. Yesterday, De Bruyne was too limited in his role, I missed his qualities sometimes in the game. The way we played against Cyprus can't be the way we wish to play.He wasn't stuck to the side! For instance, the chance Hazard created for him, he was running in the centre there...They even switched flanks constantly & both had there freedom. KDB needs more space to shine, that's why he fits the bundesliga perfectly. I think you focus too much on KDB, since he's a former Genk-player I suppose? I always get the feeling you want him to outshine Hazard for some reason... Anthon_nini, Stingray and Zazard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 He wasn't stuck to the side! For instance, the chance Hazard created for him, he was running in the centre there...They even switched flanks constantly & both had there freedom. KDB needs more space to shine, that's why he fits the bundesliga perfectly. I think you focus too much on KDB, since he's a former Genk-player I suppose? I always get the feeling you want him to outshine Hazard for some reason...Wtf? I'm not a Genkfan at all. And I only want a coach for Belgium that can make both shine for the team at the same time. It was obvious yesterday that Wilmots had given certain instructions at De Bruyne, he played a good game but was limited in the things he had permission to do. Ofcourse he switched sides after 30 minutes in the game, but that was instructed by Wilmots. That had nothing to do with freedom at the pitch. Hazard had a free role yesterday, and De Bruyne had a working role. It's a shame, because you don't need 10 workers at the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 People tend to forget he made Bayern's back line look like proper mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppi85 110 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Wtf? I'm not a Genkfan at all. And I only want a coach for Belgium that can make both shine for the team at the same time. It was obvious yesterday that Wilmots had given certain instructions at De Bruyne, he played a good game but was limited in the things he had permission to do. Ofcourse he switched sides after 30 minutes in the game, but that was instructed by Wilmots. That had nothing to do with freedom at the pitch. Hazard had a free role yesterday, and De Bruyne had a working role. It's a shame, because you don't need 10 workers at the field.My bad, you seemed to be one. I disagree all the other stuff though. Not that I like Wilmots and his tactics. he's a good mental coach, but tactically I don't rate him at all. KDB told sporza that they were allowed to switch flanks when they wanted too & Wilmots told that if they both were on the same flank, Witsel is smart enough to cover the other flank.Which working role are you talking about? We played Cyprus!! Besides, Hazard did do his "defensive duties"! he pressed high which imo is a form of active defending. Anthon_nini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 My bad, you seemed to be one. I disagree all the other stuff though. Not that I like Wilmots and his tactics. he's a good mental coach, but tactically I don't rate him at all. KDB told sporza that they were allowed to switch flanks when they wanted too & Wilmots told that if they both were on the same flank, Witsel is smart enough to cover the other flank.Which working role are you talking about? We played Cyprus!! Besides, Hazard did do his "defensive duties"! he pressed high which imo is a form of active defending.If you didn't notice that Hazard got a free role and De Bruyne didn't, there is something wrong with your eyes. And you really believe that Wilmots would give a free role to De Bruyne and Hazard at the same time? Wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 If you didn't notice that Hazard got a free role and De Bruyne didn't, there is something wrong with your eyes. And you really believe that Wilmots would give a free role to De Bruyne and Hazard at the same time? Wake upExactly, why KDB's stats at wolfsburg is pointless....Unless, you think Jose going to let kdb, cesc and hazard have some free role Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Exactly, why KDB's stats at wolfsburg is pointless....Unless, you think Jose going to let kdb, cesc and hazard have some free roleKDB and Mourinho would never work by itself. So it's pointless to discuss further. But with an excellent attacking coach KDB and Hazard could be a mean machine. A lethal combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You all (some) forget one hypothesis (shared by some guys on the team btw): KDB just had a slightly lesser game, while Eden stepped up. if you automatically assume this is because of incompatibility between the two, you are well primed and biased by media and pundits. I think its BS. They have been playing and performance together since youth NT teams. Is it Wilmots? It could be something else: Hazard having a Rocky start at the NT ( eg the hamburger incident, etc), which untill now has its effects on him at the NT. It is quite revealing he broke his bad spell after having a Mou period in which he got pushed to improve, take responsability, etc. KDB had the NT as an outlet ever since Wilmots: hence confidence boost, which he has shown (he dropped form in the NT when he got benched here). Both are awesome, but the 'we cannot play together' meme is utter BS. It will be falsified soon, now Eden AND KDB are hitting form. Eden runs 13+ km's and KDB tops it even. They both work hard and have compatible skillsets. Just because they had ' life events' interfering with form, doesnt mean they cannot do it together. Peppi85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It is Eden Hazard we're talking. Long time has passed since we celebrate he score against small team. We have set a higher standard for him. Will Hazard satisfied because he could score against Cyprus? I don't think so. It's nothing someone of his calibre should be proud of.Errr, Hull City?A goal is a goal. Players might be more happy about certain goals than others (because of the quality, for instance) but at the end of the day, who wouldn't feel happy (at the very least) when they score a goal? Besides, his finish on Saturday was more than just an ordinary one. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not to be b*tchy or anything, but it was mighty CyprusIt is Eden Hazard we're talking. Long time has passed since we celebrate he score against small team. We have set a higher standard for him. Will Hazard satisfied because he could score against Cyprus? I don't think so. It's nothing someone of his calibre should be proud of.Please stop embarrassing yourself... Stingray, Ainsley Harriott, Blue-in-me-Veins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 He's just landed here in Israel, Gonna see him tearing us apart on Tuesday You guys better not do anything bad to him on the pitch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Please stop embarrassing yourself... Not my intention. Besides I'm not saying anything offense to Hazard nor any of other member in here, so I'm feeling good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.