yuvala 2,167 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 31.7.2018 at 5:18 AM, Unionjack said: Everythings Hunky Dory. The lads got a new dap But at least they're happy Great job yesterday from these two ! Jesus.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, yuvala said: Great job yesterday from these two ! Jesus.. You jest about Luiz yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Wonder if we could put Luiz in the Barkley role? Haha no way my man. He was barely trusted for DMF in emergency cases, as AMF he'd be a disaster. He is a flashy defender but that and him being Brazilian doesn't mean he has any competence in attack I'm afraid... we need more goals, not dry them out even more. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, manpe said: Haha no way my man. He was barely trusted for DMF in emergency cases, as AMF he'd be a disaster. He is a flashy defender but that and him being Brazilian doesn't mean he has any competence in attack I'm afraid... we need more goals, not dry them out even more. Just trying to come up with options mate cause he had some bad times yesterday and he can't stay there. We have to put someone in the Barkley place who will be able to give us some goals and help in high defending. Only other real options are one of Willian,Pedro or Eden. Its a dilemma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 So whats he know??? Luiz: Chelsea can still thrive if Courtois and Hazard leave https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0806/983417-luiz-chelsea-can-still-excel-if-courtois-and-hazard-go/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Understand your thinking on other options for Luiz. Attacking midfielder though just wouldn't work. Unfortunately he is just not going to cut it as CB, he has been making these same schoolboy errors since he first joined us, he goes to press the ball and completely misses it and takes himself right out the game, does that time and time again, he is an experienced defender now guys, he isn't going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Luiz as a midfielder is just yesterday's thinking. It's like we are trying to find positions for him to paint over his ever appearing cracks, yet the fact of the matter is, he isn't that good really. He will always have brain farts, he will always be caught out of position and he will always exposed when an opposition player of much higher quality faces him. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: Luiz as a midfielder is just yesterday's thinking. It's like we are trying to find positions for him to paint over his ever appearing cracks, yet the fact of the matter is, he isn't that good really. He will always have brain farts, he will always be caught out of position and he will always exposed when an opposition player of much higher quality faces him. But WE know all of this. Right now we are in the position of having to paint over cracks. They are all over the pitch. Unless you got this wand I've been after and can magic us up a couple of players. If you dont want him in Barkleys spot and surely cant want him in Luiz's spot. Who do we put in Barkleys spot? Give us your lineup for the season with no more players incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: We have to put someone in the Barkley place who will be able to give us some goals and help in high defending. Only other real options are one of Willian,Pedro or Eden. Its a dilemma. Yes but Luiz is definitely not the answer, it would make things only worse. As for our options... our squad management has been pure shit over the last few years, so I don't envy whoever our head coach may be. And that is also why we will have done very well if we get top4 (I don't think we will). Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 4 hours ago, manpe said: Haha no way my man. He was barely trusted for DMF in emergency cases, as AMF he'd be a disaster. He is a flashy defender but that and him being Brazilian doesn't mean he has any competence in attack I'm afraid... we need more goals, not dry them out even more. Am kinda with @Unionjack on this one reason he didn't work as a DMF was because he still had to defend which we all no he cant do.... but what he can do is run with the ball has a good eye and aI good pass and has dynamite in his boot. Might just be worth a go tbh Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: Am kinda with @Unionjack on this one reason he didn't work as a DMF was because he still had to defend which we all no he cant do.... but what he can do is run with the ball has a good eye and aI good pass and has dynamite in his boot. Might just be worth a go tbh What I meant but with explanation YorkshireBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 shouldn't be near the first 11... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, BluesMadLad said: Am kinda with @Unionjack on this one reason he didn't work as a DMF was because he still had to defend which we all no he cant do.... but what he can do is run with the ball has a good eye and aI good pass and has dynamite in his boot. Might just be worth a go tbh So we're playing a life-long center-back as the most advanced midfielder while our most critical issue is goals, brilliant. He has a good eye for a pass because he plays deep as a CB, he has time to pick his passes and even then I consider his passing and technical ability overrated. Everybody can run with the ball given space... he is not going to dribble past 2-3 players when closed down. What do you think how he would fare higher up the field with midfielders and defenders swarming him? Dynamite in his boot? Need some clarification on this one.. and don't bring up the few successful free-kicks in his career or I will cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, manpe said: So we're playing a life-long center-back as the most advanced midfielder while our most critical issue is goals, brilliant. He has a good eye for a pass because he plays deep as a CB, he has time to pick his passes and even then I consider his passing and technical ability overrated. Everybody can run with the ball given space... he is not going to dribble past 2-3 players when closed down. What do you think how he would fare higher up the field with midfielders and defenders swarming him? Dynamite in his boot? Need some clarification on this one.. and don't bring up the few successful free-kicks in his career or I will cringe. And our other options are? And u can not deny the lad has one hell of a shot on him, also I seen him run past 3 players plenty of time from his own half as a centre back. And if any one can pass will u please tell that to barkley RLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, BluesMadLad said: Am kinda with @Unionjack on this one reason he didn't work as a DMF was because he still had to defend which we all no he cant do.... but what he can do is run with the ball has a good eye and aI good pass and has dynamite in his boot. Might just be worth a go tbh 3 hours ago, Unionjack said: What I meant but with explanation I see both your thinking on this and to be fair wouldn't be the worst move in the world.......But guys, doesn't this just show up the desperation in our team at present. There was a time when if we needed a player for a position we just went out and bought him. Now we haggle, drag our heels and then find they have been picked up by our rivals. YorkshireBlue, Duppy Conqueror and Unionjack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Starman60 said: But guys, doesn't this just show up the desperation in our team at present. Course it does. You going to buy us the players we need? APPARENTLY we are buying Felir and Oblak all of a sudden. You gotta giggle But when you got lemons you make lemonade. Just have to fuck about with positions till you find summet that works. YorkshireBlue and Starman60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: And our other options are? And u can not deny the lad has one hell of a shot on him, also I seen him run past 3 players plenty of time from his own half as a centre back. And if any one can pass will u please tell that to barkley RLC. Our other options are Barkley, RLC, Fabregas, even Willian and Hazard I would say they are all ahead of bloody Luiz for this role. And if need be recall Mason Mount. Though I admit I would be fascinated to see Luiz in that position just for shits and giggles. Unionjack and YorkshireBlue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Unionjack said: You jest about Luiz yes? Rudiger wasn't any better .. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/12/maurizio-sarri-david-luiz-chelsea David Luiz seems reinvigorated under Sarri, and effusively praised the new coach’s approach last week, noting that he was “in love” with a style that “everyone enjoys watching”. If one were so minded, that could be interpreted as a swipe at Conte: whatever his intention, it appears that David Luiz’s admiration is mutual. “I very much enjoy his attitude when I am working with him,” Sarri said. “He is also a very good player and a very good defender. David is very good at building up action from our defence with the way he plays. David has a big future here. He will be very useful for us but not just on the pitch, he is also important in the dressing room.”[/quo[te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/12/maurizio-sarri-david-luiz-chelsea That spin reminds me of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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