Politics & Stuff

[Vesper 30,085]

13 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes he is crazy at some things I do admit. But I was thinking more in line of abortion and lgbtq issues. 

More in line with what on abortion and LGBTQ?

In line with people who want to rip away basic autonomy from women to control their own bodies (and kill many of them in the process, like what is already happening in states with bans as doctors will not treat women who are in mortal danger from preganancies gone bad out of fear that they will be put in prison themselves)?

In line with motherfuckers who want to erase us gay folk (in this case from the US) by converting (fake science, a complete lie), or deportation, or imprisonment, or flat out killing us (exactly what many RW christofascists openingly call for, including the Republican candidate for the North Carolina Governorship, Mark Robinson)?

If anyone is in favour of either of those two sets of stances, they are not 'crazy', they are evil, they are anti-human, they are promoting a death cult line of thought.

 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Vesper

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

More in line with what on abortion and LGBTQ?

In line with people who want to rip away basic autonomy from women to control their own bodies (and kill many of them in the process, like what is already happening in states with bans as doctors will not treat women who are in mortal danger from preganancies gone bad out of fear that they will be put in prison themselves)?

In line with motherfuckers who want to erase us gay folk (in this case from the US) by converting (fake science, a complete lie), or deportation, or imprisonment, or flat out killing us (exactly what many RW christofascists openingly call for, including the Republican candidate for the North Carolina Governorship, Mark Robinson)?

If anyone is in favour of either of those two sets of stances, they are not 'crazy', they are evil, they are anti-human, they are promoting a death cult line of thought.

 

When you put it like that yes that is bad. But what I'm against is someone just wanted to do an abortion because it does not fit their lifestyle meaning it would hinder their current status like money on stuff. 

That is not a good reason to get an abortion. The ones that are needed are for rape, medical emergency. But for any little reason I don't stand for that. 

Killing gays is wrong, would never support that neither. What I'm against is drag queen teaching kids in schools. 

[Vesper 30,085]

538's pollsters ratings (out of 3.0 stars, 2.8 equates to their old 'A' rating)

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

October 09, 2024

Swing State Poll 2024: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin: Blue Wall Shows Cracks As Race Tightens, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; U.S. Senate Races: Michigan Moves To Toss-Up, Dems Lead In PA & WI

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3913

PENNSYLVANIA: Harris 49%, Trump 46%, other candidates 2%

MICHIGAN: Trump 50%, Harris 47%, other candidates 2%

WISCONSIN: Trump 48%, Harris 46%, other candidates 2%

Less than a month until Election Day, the so-called Blue Wall battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin show a tight presidential race where neither Vice President Kamala Harris nor former President Donald Trump is winning as all three states are too close to call, according to Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh- pea-ack) University polls of likely voters in each of the states released today.

In Quinnipiac University's September 18 poll, Harris held a lead in Pennsylvania, a slight lead in Michigan, and the race was essentially tied in Wisconsin.

"That was then, this is now. The Harris post-debate starburst dims to a glow as Harris enters the last weeks slipping slightly in the Rust Belt,"said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy

[Strike 7,474]

Interesting. I can see there being a shift in the Arab-American vote towards Trump too. And it will be a fitting reminder if democrats lose due to losing the votes of a community that traditionally votes their way. The dissonance with what's happening in Palestine in the US is tough to digest.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Interesting. I can see there being a shift in the Arab-American vote towards Trump too. And it will be a fitting reminder if democrats lose due to losing the votes of a community that traditionally votes their way. The dissonance with what's happening in Palestine in the US is tough to digest.

Im sure all 12 of them will be happy to vote for the guy who views them as subhuman.😂

[Vesper 30,085]

52 minutes ago, Fernando said:

When you put it like that yes that is bad.

Like what? The truth of where the hard RW christofashies want to (and already have in many cases) turn the US into a RW theocracy?

52 minutes ago, Fernando said:

But what I'm against is someone just wanted to do an abortion because it does not fit their lifestyle meaning it would hinder their current status like money on stuff. 

That is not a good reason to get an abortion. The ones that are needed are for rape, medical emergency. But for any little reason I don't stand for that. 

Multiple points.

Number one, people not personally involved do not get to determine what a woman (and often her male partner as well) decides to do with her body and her reproduction, especially in the first trimester (and I argue up until viability) of pregnancy.

Many of the RWers want to outlaw birth control as well, using the same arguments (US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has suggested that already in his own self-written additional comment on the Dobbs decision). The same logic could be used to outlaw interaacial marriage (sucks for the balck Thomas and his white wife).

RWers (especially men) scream about freedom yet want to deny half the population one of the most fundamental rights of freedom (the right to control our own bodies).

Outside of a woman and her medical team, it is nobody's fucking business, especially by people using some twisted religious rationales.

VERY few abortions occur in the very late term and over 99% of those are due to medical issues.

Many RW forced-birther do not even make exceptions for incest, rape, health, or even the LIFE of the woman.

Many of those want foetal personhood, ie that instant a women is impregnated, she HAS to either give birth or die trying, even if she was raped.

THAT stance, if the US Supreme Court upholds it, is the stuff of the US breaking up, as many states will never bow down to that doctrine, and if a RW President tries to force them to obey, (especially if they use kinetic force if they deem it ok), you will have secessionist movements explode nationwide.

The other way that can lead to a break up of the US is if a President does not enforce foetal personhood (if the US Supreme Court decised that is the law of the land), and you then have the RW states start to disobey previous Supreme Court decisions THEY do not like (for example civil rights, etc). Chaos and divisions on a systemic level follow there too.

52 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Killing gays is wrong, would never support that neither. What I'm against is drag queen teaching kids in schools. 

Non sequitur.

Drag queens are not always 'gay' at all. History is full of heterosexual humans dressing in drag at times.

Using that as an example fundamentally ignores the fact that tens of millions or RW loons in the US want to crush ALL people who are anything other than cis-het (cis-gendered heterosexual).

They think we should not EXIST. They want to strip away all our human rights, to erase us from society (whether by the utter sham of 'conversion therapy', imprisonment, deportation, or death (whether by crazed packs of right wing christofash lynch mobs, or state-sanctioned executions).

Again, that is the epitome of anti-freedom, and is so at the most basic of bedrock levels.

It is the exact same sort of thing the German Nazi party pushed for people they did not want to exist.

It is sexual preference and/or gender-based genocide.

 

Edited October 10, 2024 by Vesper

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Like what? The truth of where the hard RW christofashies want to (and already have in many cases) turn the US into a RW theocracy?

Multiple points.

Number one, people not personally involved do not get to determine what a woman (and often her male partner as well) decides to do with her body and her reproduction, especially in the first trimester (and I argue up until viability) of pregnancy.

Many of the RWers want to outlaw birth control as well, using the same arguments (US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has suggested that already in his own self-written additional comment on the Dobbs decision). The same logic could be used to outlaw interaacial marriage (sucks for the balck Thomas and his white wife).

 

 

If you thought the George Floyd protests were bad, come for white women and dudes would tear this country apart.😂
 

 

[Vesper 30,085]

52 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

If you thought the George Floyd protests were bad, come for white women and dudes would tear this country apart.😂
 

 

Starring: Jada Pinkett Smith, Damon Wayans, Savion Glover

Director: Spike Lee

Synopsis: A blistering satire of network television's pitfalls and prejudices, a humorous look at how race, ratings and the pursuit of power lead to a television writer's stunning rise and tragic downfall. Pierre Delacroix, a young, Harvard-educated man, who is the sole person of color, writing for an upstart network with floundering ratings. Despite several attempts, Delacroix has yet to see any of his concepts go into production.

[IMissEden 21]

Most people pining for Trump are centrists, not RW. People who are always open to all the facts, and probabilities, committed to 0 party, have decided to vote for trump. Obviously. The writing is on the wall re all the absolutely idealistic, destructive “norms” democrats want to manufacture, as well as export. This is not trump vs Biden x Kamala x whoever is the next pretend democrat leader being fed everything from an ear piece. This is, reality vs insanity. You disregard one single man’s hyperbolic mockery of others - some of it right on the money - for the greater good. Is seeing the forest for the trees, or seeing beyond the trees. Most just look at what’s directly in front of them. 
 

Times are alarming. If no democratic dishonesty, trump will obviously win, because what’s being represented actually matters far more to global stability, and local wellbeing, vs any type of future that follows Kamala and co doing their puppet job for others. You need to understand the reality of the shadow state, and that that’s what’s being fought against by Trump, Musk, and their few. They’re happy to be sacrificial lambs and be called everything under the sun without faking smiles, faking laughs, and engineering the people to follow them out of design, not merit. 
 

One side manipulates as a wolf in sheeps clothing. The other is a straight shooter, so often seen as stupid, in this modern nuanced overly connected (too many stupid people with opinions) time. 
 

You’re either with being lied to, or not. You’re either with giving over reigns of the globe to a single team, or not. It is almost like Stockholm syndrome. You can’t fathom the extent and how long ago it started, being groomed toward ideology. That’s how most votes are won. It’s obvious when people are brainwashed to be a way vs neutral and from neutrality, balanced in assessments. This latter crowd are more compelled than ever to support whoever is against the charades, that hurt school children, hurt communities, dissolve identities and so on. 

Edited October 10, 2024 by IMissEden

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

Starring: Jada Pinkett Smith, Damon Wayans, Savion Glover

Director: Spike Lee

Synopsis: A blistering satire of network television's pitfalls and prejudices, a humorous look at how race, ratings and the pursuit of power lead to a television writer's stunning rise and tragic downfall. Pierre Delacroix, a young, Harvard-educated man, who is the sole person of color, writing for an upstart network with floundering ratings. Despite several attempts, Delacroix has yet to see any of his concepts go into production.

One of the saddest days of my life was seeing Spike buy a cybertruck on instagram. A man who represented standing up to the man, and system, in my youth going to bat for an Apartheid nepo baby's car proved the old statement:

"You either die young, or grow old enough to become a villain" 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

 

[Fernando 6,585]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

Like what? The truth of where the hard RW christofashies want to (and already have in many cases) turn the US into a RW theocracy?

Multiple points.

Number one, people not personally involved do not get to determine what a woman (and often her male partner as well) decides to do with her body and her reproduction, especially in the first trimester (and I argue up until viability) of pregnancy.

Many of the RWers want to outlaw birth control as well, using the same arguments (US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has suggested that already in his own self-written additional comment on the Dobbs decision). The same logic could be used to outlaw interaacial marriage (sucks for the balck Thomas and his white wife).

RWers (especially men) scream about freedom yet want to deny half the population one of the most fundamental rights of freedom (the right to control our own bodies).

Outside of a woman and her medical team, it is nobody's fucking business, especially by people using some twisted religious rationales.

VERY few abortions occur in the very late term and over 99% of those are due to medical issues.

Many RW forced-birther do not even make exceptions for incest, rape, health, or even the LIFE of the woman.

Many of those want foetal personhood, ie that instant a women is impregnated, she HAS to either give birth or die trying, even if she was raped.

THAT stance, if the US Supreme Court upholds it, is the stuff of the US breaking up, as many states will never bow down to that doctrine, and if a RW President tries to force them to obey, (especially if they use kinetic force if they deem it ok), you will have secessionist movements explode nationwide.

The other way that can lead to a break up of the US is if a President does not enforce foetal personhood (if the US Supreme Court decised that is the law of the land), and you then have the RW states start to disobey previous Supreme Court decisions THEY do not like (for example civil rights, etc). Chaos and divisions on a systemic level follow there too.

Non sequitur.

Drag queens are not always 'gay' at all. History is full of heterosexual humans dressing in drag at times.

Using that as an example fundamentally ignores the fact that tens of millions or RW loons in the US want to crush ALL people who are anything other than cis-het (cis-gendered heterosexual).

They think we should not EXIST. They want to strip away all our human rights, to erase us from society (whether by the utter sham of 'conversion therapy', imprisonment, deportation, or death (whether by crazed packs of right wing christofash lynch mobs, or state-sanctioned executions).

Again, that is the epitome of anti-freedom, and is so at the most basic of bedrock levels.

It is the exact same sort of thing the German Nazi party pushed for people they did not want to exist.

It is sexual preference and/or gender-based genocide.

 

Abortion for rape, and health reason I'm for it. I will defend that with you. Any other reason I will not defend and for me that is murder. It's your body you can do whatever you want but your killing a life. 

So I'm for abortion for a certain situations, not for every situation. 

Gay people has always existed, in fact I think they should be protected. Anyone wanting to kill them I don't stand. So in that case if you want to say it I'm for the lgbtq community that they get to live and make their decisions. But like I said everything is being forced so I don't agree with that indoctrination of children in schools. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

 This year, ex-President Donald Trump is selling his ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles, calling them ‘my favorite book’.

It turns out thousands of copies were printed in the same country that Trump frequently accuses of stealing American jobs – China.

A printing company in the eastern city of Hangzhou shipped out nearly 120,000 of Trump’s Bibles to the US in three increments from early February to late March, according to global trade records.

The shipments totaled an estimated $342,000 in value, which breaks down to less than $3 for each Bible. Trump is selling them for $59.95 each.

[Vesper 30,085]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 This year, ex-President Donald Trump is selling his ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles, calling them ‘my favorite book’.

It turns out thousands of copies were printed in the same country that Trump frequently accuses of stealing American jobs – China.

A printing company in the eastern city of Hangzhou shipped out nearly 120,000 of Trump’s Bibles to the US in three increments from early February to late March, according to global trade records.

The shipments totaled an estimated $342,000 in value, which breaks down to less than $3 for each Bible. Trump is selling them for $59.95 each.

[cosmicway 1,333]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

Abortion for rape, and health reason I'm for it. I will defend that with you. Any other reason I will not defend and for me that is murder. It's your body you can do whatever you want but your killing a life. 

So I'm for abortion for a certain situations, not for every situation. 

Gay people has always existed, in fact I think they should be protected. Anyone wanting to kill them I don't stand. So in that case if you want to say it I'm for the lgbtq community that they get to live and make their decisions. But like I said everything is being forced so I don't agree with that indoctrination of children in schools. 

Why do you care about this ?
I would be in favour of abortion on request, not on demand if I was asked but why care ?
There will always be low life women / families who do abortions. You can't change them