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[Fernando 6,585]

Well I still remember a prophesy many years ago that I heard that Trump will serve two terms and in the second term in the middle of his term he would killed. 

So he is on second term now as prophesy, now weather he get's killed.....I hope not. 

But other then that not surprise about this results as I expected Trump to win. 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well I still remember a prophesy many years ago that I heard that Trump will serve two terms and in the second term in the middle of his term he would killed. 

So he is on second term now as prophesy, now weather he get's killed.....I hope not. 

But other then that not surprise about this results as I expected Trump to win. 

 

More likely he will die of natural causes now given his age and health tho. 😉

Edited November 6, 2024 by robsblubot

[Fernando 6,585]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

shocking fall-offs in NY

even in NYC area

massive moves towards Trump by latinos

many latinos in Queens

massive pro Trump shift

unheard of in the past 40 years or so

 

this area is 75% latino

My theory with Latinos, despite all the bashing from Trump against Latin country. 

I mentioned this before, Latino (some as that is not everyone) where mad with the influx of immigrant from Venezuela and what not. Because they where getting a lot of help while others that been here got little to no help. 

So basically they voted with their wallet, not to mention how much resources it has taken to support the incoming immigrants. 

For me I'm happy helping them, since yes I know we have some bad people but we also get good people. But some people when you mess with their pockets they will not like that. 

Edited November 6, 2024 by Fernando

[robsblubot 3,595]

Just now, Fernando said:

My theory with Latinos, despite all the bashing from Trump against Latin country. 

I mentioned this before, Latino (some as that is not everyone) where mad with the influx of immigrant from Venezuela and what not. And they getting a lot of people while others that been here get no help. 

So basically they vote with their wallet, not to mention how much resources it has taken to support the incoming immigrants. 

For me I'm happy helping them, since yes I know we have some bad people but we also get good people. But some people when you mess with their pockets they will not like that. 

Right on. Very simple concept: more abundant cheap labor the lower the wages. Not even mentioning homelessness.

works even in IT. Limit the influx of skilled labor and the wages go higher.

On the same token, the republican claims of stealing jobs is laughable nowadays though. I for example can work from anywhere in the world for the same employer—only difference is where my taxes go.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Few more Latinos voted for Trump relative to 2020 say the estimators.
It was young men below 30% who were for Trump in uneven proportions.

[cosmicway 1,333]

57 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Like I said I tend to go for the simplest explanation: Kamala wasn’t a very strong candidate tied to a weak president. Democrats have lost the plot. And Trump is definitely *popular* 😉

the fact that the Jan 6 perpetrator has won is really sad for what we thought democracy was, but evidently some disagree that what congress does is democracy.

and to emphasize, I can’t imagine Musk’s support comes cheap.

He is a charlatan however.
He does n't believe a word of what he says (because he is just too clever for that).
It's a make believe story his story and he could have just as easily made himself into an arch-liberal if he thought he was going places like that.
Barry Goldwater was n't like that. A strict disciplinarian from military background, he was an ideologue, wanted to nuke the world and he believed in it.
Trump is a charlatan.

Edited November 6, 2024 by cosmicway

[robsblubot 3,595]

16 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Few more Latinos voted for Trump relative to 2020 say the estimators.
It was young men below 30% who were for Trump in uneven proportions.

Latinos is a weird group definition tbh. I am from Brazil, so technically a Latino but I’m not Hispanic. Hispanic music or jokes sound really weird to me — sure it’s the same for Hispanics regarding Portuguese.

First time I had Mexican food was in the US and I much prefer it to the bland Brazilian food. Honestly in the south it’s mostly just Italian food.

there has been a point made that there are no Latinos; there are no blacks, Asians, there are people with different ideas and whatnot.

evidently we also define democracy differently especially regarding conceding elections.

Edited November 6, 2024 by robsblubot

[IMissEden 21]

Time for common sense and grown ups instead of this incessant CHILDISH tone, predisposition, thought processes embedded into those who do not understand how things work. 

[IMissEden 21]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Older than Biden when he took office - oh and hes going to stop the Russo/Ukraine war over night. Sure....

What age are you 

[IMissEden 21]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Well I still remember a prophesy many years ago that I heard that Trump will serve two terms and in the second term in the middle of his term he would killed. 

So he is on second term now as prophesy, now weather he get's killed.....I hope not. 

But other then that not surprise about this results as I expected Trump to win. 

 

Deductions make it more likely than not. Expect it 

 

[IMissEden 21]

Get up to speed. And may now take the chance to post some vs the tonnes, of actual slips vs framed as ones, re Kamala. That camera roll x fake phone call a day ago 😄The accents 😄The teleprompters 😄HER party in power for years - doesn’t do anything with it. 😄Relies on ad hominem vs seasoning with —- 0 political prowess, brain far from in the right place. 
 

Sleepy Joe fans now saying but muh Trump age is why next election will be taken even further less seriously. Dishonest idiots. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

51 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Latinos is a weird group definition tbh. I am from Brazil, so technically a Latino but I’m not Hispanic. Hispanic music or jokes sound really weird to me — sure it’s the same for Hispanics regarding Portuguese.

First time I had Mexican food was in the US and I much prefer it to the bland Brazilian food. Honestly in the south it’s mostly just Italian food.

there has been a point made that there are no Latinos; there are no blacks, Asians, there are people with different ideas and whatnot.

evidently we also define democracy differently especially regarding conceding elections.

Which is why I think Democrats need to change their strategy around "POC" completely. You cant treat people as a monolith just on a perceived "non-white" status(especially when one of those groups actually views themselves as white for all intent and purpose). Identity politics by our side in general needs retooling. It simply doesnt work in a country that is pretty right-leaning for the most part.

I do think the media, in general, does a poor job talking to regular people. I was all in for Kamala but even months ago i mentioned that going to the grocery store is a miserable experience. @vesper brought out some statistics and even then that doesnt change how people feel.  The economy just doesnt feel good for people, and even less so for people who arent making well over the regular income. You can only tell folks who feel screwed by the system that one guy is going to destroy it all, and have them not want to for so long.

I will say you are out of touch as a media when a millionaire(billionaire?) reality tv star comes on a panel and seems much more in touch than the other folks talking:

They dont need your votes for primary is true, but surely you dont say that when folks have to come out and vote for you to win? Just makes people seem useless to the process, and she should have had a primary in the end. I remember Kamala in the 2020 primary being generally unrelatable to most people in the country, not very charismatic, and being seen as a DEI hire in an age where DEI is going out of vogue. i think she could have grown into the best politician she could be through that grit and steel of a primary. Not just being handpicked.

 

Edited November 6, 2024 by Sir Mikel OBE

[IMissEden 21]

Clearer than day re last election being stolen. People will die calling a blue sky a conspiracy theory, wondering why the info in their made up minds doesn’t reflect reality. 

[Vesper 30,224]

officially called by all the news sources

Trump wins

🤬

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

43 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

What age are you 

Old enough to know when to use question marks.

[IMissEden 21]

In the Blue people would have said, majority vote — the majority of people think xyz —- thus it is right. 

Reveal is real-time - who has a sense of direction, and real people, vs the niche of very unique snowflakes. Couldn’t accurately forecast what was on a plate in front of —- no wonder the larger forecasts have been harder to take seriously  

🥰
No idea. 

Edited November 6, 2024 by IMissEden

[cosmicway 1,333]

If Latinos vote for Trump then the Trump bubble will burst soon.
I mean his supporters if they hate someone it's the Latinos. Not the Arab Bin Laden types like in Europe - because there are few of those.
From time immemorial they hate Latinos.
So Trump voters will be hating some other Trump voters ?
The Hinchcliffe character then attacked the Puerto Ricans who are Americans, kith and kin, not aliens.
Trump is an idiot in all sorts of other things and those who voted for him will regret pretty soon.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

If Latinos vote for Trump then the Trump bubble will burst soon.
I mean his supporters if they hate someone it's the Latinos. Not the Arab Bin Laden types like in Europe - because there are few of those.
From time immemorial they hate Latinos.
So Trump voters will be hating some other Trump voters ?
The Hinchcliffe character then attacked the Puerto Ricans who are Americans, kith and kin, not aliens.
Trump is an idiot in all sorts of other things and those who voted for him will regret pretty soon.

Bloody hell agree with that. They used to call them 'wetbacks', 'river crossers' 'taco niggers' 'leaf blowers' all the way back to the 1980s. 

Trump says hes a christian and the Hispanic evangelicals fall for the felon and rapist

Also Dems were complacent with the economy concerns of people. They let the criticisms of Biden linked to inflation slide without saying how it is. 

They said its a 'Cost of living crisis' etc instead of highlighting its the billionaires putting up prices, in reality a 'Cost of wealth' crisis

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

She didnt outperform Biden in a single county:

Shameful performance. She really was a poor choice.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

His rambling speech on about healing the nation etc -next sentence 'going to crush the enemy within' CNN ? Hispanics ? Women ? or just anyone that has a different point of view ?