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[cosmicway 1,333]

After Camp David and Egypt leaving the scene of the conflict things became relatively quiet.
After the fall of the Soviet Union things seemed to improve for a while.
During the Saddam - Isis - Syrian war years again the circus moved elsewhere.
There was no absence of fighting during these phases and there were serious conflagrations from time to time but no real war.
Now with Iran and Putin in close alliance it is time for a new real war.
It's difficult though to see any end to it.

Back in 1945 nazi Germany surrendered. The Germans became quiet soon afterwards.
Why ?
Because their objectives were nothing less than Los Angeles - San Francisco - Africa - Asia - Australia.
For the dyed in the wool nazi it would seem silly to fight for an independent ... Lower Saxony-Westphalia.
It would seem silly to me.
So they decided to become Americans.
The much harder than Germans Japanese were more or less in the same frame of mind after their surrender.

This is different and there is also the islamic fundamentalism in the way.
It's maybe not the biggest war in history but it's like nothing we 've seen before.
A war of annihilation.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Link?

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been ongoing for decades, with both sides experiencing significant loss of life. However, recent data from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) shows that since 2005, 96% of deaths have been Palestinian. This statistic highlights the disproportionate impact of the conflict on the Palestinian people and raises questions about the ongoing violence.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

UK government buildings now raising the Israel flag. 

Wonder if they will raise the Palestinian flag after the Gaza stripped declare 1000s + casualties, half of which will be children?

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

UK government buildings now raising the Israel flag. 

Wonder if they will raise the Palestinian flag after the Gaza stripped declare 1000s + casualties, half of which will be children?

Israeli flags 'forcibly' removed from Sheffield and Rotherham town halls - BBC News

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

17 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

UK government buildings now raising the Israel flag. 

Wonder if they will raise the Palestinian flag after the Gaza stripped declare 1000s + casualties, half of which will be children?

Like I said the EU have dug a hole for themselves displaying a massive Israeli flag. Same all over the World Israeli flag projected on to Sydney Opera House, New York,

Neutrality gone out the window - they seem to be endorsing Netanyahus genocide saying ''they are animals, we will stop electricty, water and food to two and a half million people'' 

[Gundalf 805]

In the muslim world u wont find any thoughts or protests about Israeli civilians, in the muslim world u wont find big protests after terrorist attacks. They cry whenever the rights of muslims as a minority are threatened, but wont grant other minorities basic rights in their own countries. Yes people can call the west hypocrits, but the muslim-arab world is not in the position to do so. They have always been biased and onesided all the way.

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

5 hours ago, Gundalf said:

In the muslim world u wont find any thoughts or protests about Israeli civilians, in the muslim world u wont find big protests after terrorist attacks. They cry whenever the rights of muslims as a minority are threatened, but wont grant other minorities basic rights in their own countries. Yes people can call the west hypocrits, but the muslim-arab world is not in the position to do so. They have always been biased and onesided all the way.

 

They majority don't even have basic rights in their own country. you realize that right?

It is really not that hard to be against the suffering and killing of innocent civilians, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.

I am an American, i do not support funding other states or actors to kill innocent civilians. 

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Clockwork

[Vesper 30,099]

On 11/10/2023 at 18:03, Fulham Broadway said:

 

Margaret Hodge is a POS sophist cunt

notice non stop personal smears of Owen Jones, the 'obsession' charges against him, and the ludicrous claim that Jones had not condemned Hamas

[Vesper 30,099]

Tory scum at work: NHS waiting lists in England hit all-time high (7.75m)

https://www.channel4.com/news/nhs-waiting-lists-in-england-hit-all-time-high (video at link)

NHS waiting lists in England have hit an all-time high, according to the latest figures.

And the number of waits over 65 weeks for specialist clinical care or surgery rose by nearly 13,000 – the biggest monthly increase in over two years.

[Vesper 30,099]

CNN live footage as Gaza was under bombardment. Distant "call to prayer" audio is astounding

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/13/israeli-airstrikes-gaza-aaron-cohen-nn-hnk-vpx.cnn

[Vesper 30,099]

ffs

what the hell is Starmer thinking, using this phraseology at this time!

Keir Starmer says he’ll ‘bulldoze’ through planning resistance to build new towns

https://www.channel4.com/news/keir-starmer-says-hell-bulldoze-through-planning-resistance-to-build-new-towns

 

[lucio 5,418]

On 11/10/2023 at 23:10, MoroccanBlue said:

UK government buildings now raising the Israel flag. 

Wonder if they will raise the Palestinian flag after the Gaza stripped declare 1000s + casualties, half of which will be children?

If Palestinians were “gods chosen people” and dominated global finance then we might raise their flag. 
They should fly both or better yet , neither 

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

Margaret Hodge is a POS sophist cunt

notice non stop personal smears of Owen Jones, the 'obsession' charges against him, and the ludicrous claim that Jones had not condemned Hamas

Ultra Zionist. Instrumental in bringing down Corbyn because of 'anti semitism'. Any politician that supports Palestinians having been occupied is smeared with anti semitism. She is also a huge hypocrite, a vocal proponent of cracking down on tax avoiders, Margaret Hodge's family company pays just 0.01pc tax on £2.1bn of money generated in the UK.

[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

If Palestinians were “gods chosen people” and dominated global finance then we might raise their flag. 
They should fly both or better yet , neither 

Celebrities, football cubs, or anyone that wants to take neutral and unbiased stance wouldn't raise any flag. They'd merely express their condolences to the true victims, which are the innocent people caught in the cross fire and being used as 'meat shields'. 

Some celebrities like Mark Hamill and Jamie Lee Curtis have already looked like total idiots with their comments so far. The latter posted images/videos of the atrocities in Gaza, and she thought they were happening in Israel. She made the comment, “Terror from the skies,” followed by an Israeli flag emoji.

This is exactly what I fucking mean. Some people are so blissfully unaware of what is really happening and yet they are already choosing sides because they are told to. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by MoroccanBlue