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[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

What is this based off exactly? 

Genuine question. 

I think it’s a fair assumption: not one I myself make, but rather one I suspect the attacker did.

Perhaps due to Trump’s self-proclaimed (heard him say that multiple times) special relationship with Putin? https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/4484909-trump-has-kept-up-his-old-creepy-affections-for-putin/amp/
 

or directly claiming that he will “end” the war https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-wont-accept-ultimatum-type-invitations-second-ukraine-peace-2024-07-18/

 

[Thor 2,718]

Seems a stretch. 

Regardless - the world is ugly these days. I couldn't give a shit about politics but its sad seeing people in my day to day, and on here, act completely loyal to people they don't know in politics and act as if one side is all wrongdoing and the other near perfect. Not only that - people ending relationships with people just because of differences in that opinion. 

World is truly sick, and people are thin skinned and pathetic. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

51 minutes ago, Thor said:

Seems a stretch. 

Regardless - the world is ugly these days. I couldn't give a shit about politics but its sad seeing people in my day to day, and on here, act completely loyal to people they don't know in politics and act as if one side is all wrongdoing and the other near perfect. Not only that - people ending relationships with people just because of differences in that opinion. 

World is truly sick, and people are thin skinned and pathetic. 

Yeah maybe, but like I said i wasn’t the one making the connection just trying to understand why the attacker may have done it.

i personally understand representation, so im totally OK with the notion that folks who disagree a lot with me exist in numbers and also deserve representation. Trump is a bit different than all politicians from the right I’ve seen before tho—personal experience.

Think much of what you talk about is caused by social media and the algos which is discussed in the long Yuval Harari interview I posted earlier. 

thought the interview was actually well conducted too: https://youtu.be/toF5PIClNZ4

Edited September 16, 2024 by robsblubot

[Vesper 30,224]

13 hours ago, Thor said:

Democrat voters are crazy. Tried to assassinate Trump again.
 

Crazy that he’d want the job after all this lol.  

this asshat was a Trump supporter in 2016

and the dead cunt who shot actually Trump was a right winger

do not try to gaslight here

it will never work

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Well the first bloke was a confusing one. Registered as republican yet donated to democrat causes the same year. 

As far as this new bloke, If he was an alleged Trump supporter in 2016 a lot of his activity these past several years is very contradictory. Pushing for the defunding of police, supporting Gubbard during her democrat period, posts expressing support for Biden/Harris, and all of his political donations since 2012 were for a committee that supported democratic candidates. 

 

[Vesper 30,224]

21 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Well the first bloke was a confusing one. Registered as republican yet donated to democrat causes the same year. 

As far as this new bloke, If he was an alleged Trump supporter in 2016 a lot of his activity these past several years is very contradictory. Pushing for the defunding of police, supporting Gubbard during her democrat period, posts expressing support for Biden/Harris, and all of his political donations since 2012 were for a committee that supported democratic candidates. 

 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Great speeches by great men:

Winston Churchill: We shall fight on the beaches
JFK: Ich bin ein Berliner
Charles De Gaulle: Quebec libre

Those went down well when they were spoken.
Now D,J. Trump's dog speech. Will it be an election winner or an election loser ?

Edited September 16, 2024 by cosmicway

[Vesper 30,224]

35 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Great speeches by great men:

Winston Churchill: We shall fight on the beaches
JFK: Ich bin ein Berliner
Charles De Gaulle: Quebec libre

Those went down well when they were spoken.
Now D,J. Trump's dog speech. Will it be an election winner or an election loser ?

atm the race is 100 per cent a toss-up

Trump has overcome both the post convention bounce for Harris and his disastrous debate

it so looks like it will be a close run thing

[robsblubot 3,595]

8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

atm the race is 100 per cent a toss-up

Trump has overcome both the post convention bounce for Harris and his disastrous debate

it so looks like it will be a close run thing

Trump and his team play the media like a fiddle. 

They are always in control of the narrative. Harris' debate performance lasted only a few/couple days and the media was back talking about dogs and a small Ohio town.

There is no way out: social media let the algos do their thing to make more money while public news media cater to shareholders in similar ways.

It will be decided in the last month as it usually happens; who has the momentum and whatnot.
If we get Trump again, then it's going to be well-deserved.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Trump should be worried for the rest of his life. Next assassin will be thinking 'third time lucky'.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Elon Musk on his X, an unfettered sewage outfall spewing bile and a never ending discharge of untruths, has said 'No one has tried to kill Biden or Harris yet'

Step forward the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, which fantasised about the killing of Harris in a message posted on X,  “Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.”

[cosmicway 1,333]

49 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Elon Musk on his X, an unfettered sewage outfall spewing bile and a never ending discharge of untruths, has said 'No one has tried to kill Biden or Harris yet'

Step forward the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, which fantasised about the killing of Harris in a message posted on X,  “Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.”

JFK was murdered by a hitman - conspiracy or not. Lincoln the same. Aldo Moro in Italy the same.
Those who are after Trump are neighbourhood yobos with a gun, those people whose right to weaponize themselves he defends.

[Vesper 30,224]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Elon Musk on his X, an unfettered sewage outfall spewing bile and a never ending discharge of untruths, has said 'No one has tried to kill Biden or Harris yet'

Step forward the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, which fantasised about the killing of Harris in a message posted on X,  “Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero.”

and the fuckers now play the 'victim' card:

It's a shame that even on a "free speech" website that libertarians cannot speak freely.

Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority.

 

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Edited September 16, 2024 by Vesper

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

and the fuckers now play the 'victim' card:

It's a shame that even on a "free speech" website that libertarians cannot speak freely.

Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority.

 

Social Media, the syphilitic scab that people keep scratching. It is the tool billionaires use in their class warfare to divide the minions

[Vesper 30,224]

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

class warfare

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[robsblubot 3,595]

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

and the fuckers now play the 'victim' card:

It's a shame that even on a "free speech" website that libertarians cannot speak freely.

Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority.

 

Musk is disingenuous like that too.

The question someone ought to ask them is, "do algorithms have the right to free speech?" last time I checked, the first amendment refers to human beings.

[Vesper 30,224]

4 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Musk is disingenuous like that too.

The question someone ought to ask them is, "do algorithms have the right to free speech?" last time I checked, the first amendment refers to human beings.

and he is at it again

the ratio of direct and indirect violent rhetoric from the far RW and/or MAGA is at least 20 or 30 to one versus the same coming from left, and even higher if you look at the Republican politicians versus Democratic politicians (probably 50 to 100 to 1)

fucking twat

he wants blood spilt, he wants civil kinetic conflict (especially if Trump is in power so the orange menace can then use THAT as the excuse to roll out the fascist white nationalist/christofash goon state)

then when it happens, Musk (and all MAGA/far RW leaders and media, including Trump) will deny all responsibility and play the victim card for the ten thousandth time

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Musk is giving Trump 45 million dollars a week in a bid to get him in the White House

[Vesper 30,224]

6 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Musk is giving Trump 45 million dollars a week in a bid to get him in the White House

Surprise: Elon Musk Says He Isn’t Actually Donating $45 Million a Month to Trump

The billionaire CEO, no beacon of truth himself, called media reports of his promised political contributions “not true.”

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/elon-musk-not-donating-45-million-a-month-to-donald-trump

The day Donald Trump chose J.D. Vance as his running mate, Elon Musk reportedly pledged to donate $45 million a month to a super PAC he co-founded in support of the former president. But in an interview with weirdo right-wing influencer Jordan Peterson on Tuesday, the billionaire seemed to back off that record number, calling the Wall Street Journal’s reporting on his promised contributions “not true.”

“I am not donating $45 million a month to Trump,” Musk told Peterson. He gave to the super PAC he cofounded, he said, in support of “meritocracy” and deregulation—not “hyperpartisan” causes. “I am making some donations to America PAC,” he added later, “but at a much lower level.”

It’s unclear how much Musk is financially backing Trump, whom he continued to express support for in his sit-down with Peterson. “In my view, the Republican Party is actually the meritocracy party,” he said, criticizing Democrats for “promoting DEI”—a bogeyman of the right and an ugly line of attack some in the GOP have used against Vice President Kamala Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Still, Musk noted that he was not exactly MAGA, but MAG (“Make America Greater”).

Musk's qualified praise—as well as his scaled-back donation promise—is likely disappointing for the Trump campaign, which appeared to be counting on Musk to help counter the record fundraising Harris has raked in since President Joe Biden dropped his reelection bid and passed the torch to the vice president. “Elon is a blank check,” as a Republican source close to Trump told my colleague Gabriel Sherman. “He’s invested in this.”

Musk, who endorsed Trump on his X platform after the former president’s near-assassination this month, has become a popular figure on the MAGA right; the mere mention of his name drew cheers of approval from the crowds at last week’s Republican National Convention. His conversation with Peterson—full of ten-dollar words in service of ten-cent ideas about the “woke mind virus” and beyond—underscored why. But will he be a “blank check” for the Trump campaign? “What’s been reported in the media,” Musk told Peterson, “is simply not true.”