Politics & Stuff

[YorkshireBlue 3,118]

52 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Not sure its a left v right issue - more to do with election rules and funding. Trump has now called Bidens America a fascist state 🤣

America is a joke lol it's boarder line embarrassing 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,891]

Things must be going bad for Biden if they got Obama trying to run point for his recent plan.

[cosmicway 1,299]

Sexy affairs is the first thing people forget.
Forest fires and the like also - even if governments are accused for those.
I believe that Boris's party gates also would n't matter - had he stayed as prime minister.
Other things that matter, do matter.
Is America different ? Are they so religious ?
They are into some such antics. For example they do not allow football betting. 
Once upon a time an American saw in my sports website the words "Manchester United - Liverpool" so he wrote to me and said "mate, your site may be illegal in America - what is this Manchester United ?".

[robsblubot 3,464]

10 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Sexy affairs is the first thing people forget.
Forest fires and the like also - even if governments are accused for those.
I believe that Boris's party gates also would n't matter - had he stayed as prime minister.
Other things that matter, do matter.
Is America different ? Are they so religious ?
They are into some such antics. For example they do not allow football betting. 
Once upon a time an American saw in my sports website the words "Manchester United - Liverpool" so he wrote to me and said "mate, your site may be illegal in America - what is this Manchester United ?".

Are you OK? 😅 

once again nobody gives a fuck about the sex!  It happened 8 years ago!

Trump is now a convicted felon. Nobody will forget that ever!

Edited June 1 by robsblubot

[cosmicway 1,299]

50 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Are you OK? 😅 

once again nobody gives a fuck about the sex!  It happened 8 years ago!

Trump is now a convicted felon. Nobody will forget that ever!

Yes but we count the Trump inclined voters only.
If it was you and me the man would be selling pistacio nuts.

[robsblubot 3,464]

28 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Yes but we count the Trump inclined voters only.
If it was you and me the man would be selling pistacio nuts.

You are conflating different things.... on purpose? The effect on the election is nuanced as stated before.

Being a felon even changes his rights. It's kinda big deal esp given that he's the first former US press ever to be convicted.

Ads on tv and online reminding people Trump is a convicted felon will go on until the Election Day. 

[cosmicway 1,299]

3 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

You are conflating different things.... on purpose? The effect on the election is nuanced as stated before.

Being a felon even changes his rights. It's kinda big deal esp given that he's the first former US press ever to be convicted.

Ads on tv and online reminding people Trump is a convicted felon will go on until the Election Day. 

The effect of those ads on Trump voters counts.

[Vesper 28,366]

1 hour ago, robsblubot said:

once again nobody gives a fuck about the sex!  It happened 8 years ago!

18 years ago

July 2006

[Vesper 28,366]

4 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

America is a joke lol it's boarder line embarrassing 

it is beyond embarrassing, it is terrifying, as they have by far the most powerful military in human history and they have 100 million citizens who are fine with an actual insane madman taking fascist control as a dictator and then destroying the entire American administrative state and constitutional form of democratic government

Edited June 1 by Vesper

[robsblubot 3,464]

39 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The effect of those ads on Trump voters counts.

Trump runs a cult following. Trump voters wouldn’t change their mi d even if he murdered someone on the street.

I thought that was self-evident. The point is the effect on the undecided, and there was an interesting poll some time ago about “what if Trump got convicted”.

If Trump only gets votes from “Trump voters” he loses again just as badly.

[Thor 2,380]

6 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

So he fucked a porn star and spend 130k on a cover up and said it was for his campaign? Who gives a fuck.......

Mate - agree. This thread is a microcosm of what is actually wrong with the world and just proves how sensitive and full of shit people are with their political affiliations and views. 

You can't even ask a question in here without being labeled something. People in here are the types to not be friends with someone if they share slightly different political views. I think it says a lot more about people who side themselves with these monoliths trapped in time and act like its their entire wellbeing and personality.

Hillary potentially having people killed and leaked emails talking about all kinds of crazy shit? No problem. 

Trump using $130k of funds elsewhere? GUILTY! GET HIM!!!

 

The world had 4 years of Trump. Nothing all too tragic happened. Its probably been worse since hes left with all these countries at each others throat. People who don't even live in America getting mad about the vote off between the turd sandwich vs the douche, and angry you wouldn't vote for their turd sandwich.

[robsblubot 3,464]

22 minutes ago, Thor said:

Mate - agree. This thread is a microcosm of what is actually wrong with the world and just proves how sensitive and full of shit people are with their political affiliations and views. 

You can't even ask a question in here without being labeled something. People in here are the types to not be friends with someone if they share slightly different political views. I think it says a lot more about people who side themselves with these monoliths trapped in time and act like its their entire wellbeing and personality.

Hillary potentially having people killed and leaked emails talking about all kinds of crazy shit? No problem. 

Trump using $130k of funds elsewhere? GUILTY! GET HIM!!!

 

The world had 4 years of Trump. Nothing all too tragic happened. Its probably been worse since hes left with all these countries at each others throat. People who don't even live in America getting mad about the vote off between the turd sandwich vs the douche, and angry you wouldn't vote for their turd sandwich.

Heh nobody here so far was talking about the merits of the lawsuit; I particularly think it was a weak case. He did break the law and got caught tho--that's simple enough for most people who actually read about it.
I'd rather he found guilty for the stuff he was indeed guilty of: asking for votes in Georgia and the attack against the Capitol, which ended up with actual casualties, but that's me. Now, I personally consider anything who thinks that what happen on that day (Jan 6 2021) is OK is a fucking moron.

You lose all credibility with the ridiculous shit about Clinton tho--straight from Murdoch's ass. You just showed which microcosm you navigate towards. Yes, it's a different one, but still one.

[Thor 2,380]

1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

Heh nobody here so far was talking about the merits of the lawsuit; I particularly think it was a weak case. He did break the law and got caught tho--that's simple enough for most people who actually read about it.
I'd rather he found guilty for the stuff he was indeed guilty of: asking for votes in Georgia and the attack against the Capitol, which ended up with actual casualties, but that's me. Now, I personally consider anything who thinks that what happen on that day (Jan 6 2021) is OK is a fucking moron.

You lose all credibility with the ridiculous shit about Clinton tho--straight from Murdoch's ass. You just showed which microcosm you navigate towards. Yes, it's a different one, but still one.

I don't gravitate towards either. I couldn't care who is in power as my life isn't impacted what so ever. 

Again - straight to pointing a finger and labelling. lol... Called it in the initial post. 

[robsblubot 3,464]

5 minutes ago, Thor said:

I don't gravitate towards either. I couldn't care who is in power as my life isn't impacted what so ever. 

Again - straight to pointing a finger and labelling. lol... Called it in the initial post. 

Good for you. That's a very selfish way of thinking.

When you mention specific fabricated data which came from Murdoch's "news" sources it kinda suggests that you do; regardless of what you may think.
Your microcosm isn't picked, but comes from your source of news as well as your social circles.

[Thor 2,380]

16 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Good for you. That's a very selfish way of thinking.

When you mention specific fabricated data which came from Murdoch's "news" sources it kinda suggests that you do; regardless of what you may think.
Your microcosm isn't picked, but comes from your source of news as well as your social circles.

I made one inference in this so far - and it was more so a joke about not being able to be friends with people with opposing views. 

You on the other hand continue to... without knowing anything about my view on things.

Keep playing gotcha and hanging onto throwaway comments used to make light examples. 

[robsblubot 3,464]

24 minutes ago, Thor said:

I made one inference in this so far - and it was more so a joke about not being able to be friends with people with opposing views. 

You on the other hand continue to... without knowing anything about my view on things.

Keep playing gotcha and hanging onto throwaway comments used to make light examples. 

Whatever, I specifically mentioned the one point you made (and nothing else), but you keep ignoring that, so 🤷‍♂️

[Thor 2,380]

15 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Whatever, I specifically mentioned the one point you made (and nothing else), but you keep ignoring that, so 🤷‍♂️

"Their sources are biased" 

"Your sources are biased"

"Hmm yeah you're lying"

"No you're lying"

 

We showed them. 

[Vesper 28,366]

absolute madness by the yanks (the fucking Democratic leaders even signed off on this shitbaggery, and many in their own party are losing their minds)

anyone who tries and deny the Israel lobby has the American government (regardless of Party in so many cases) by the jacobs is either a wilfull liar or a fool

Netanyahu accepts invitation to address joint session of Congress

‘I’m excited for the privilege’ of making Israel’s case to the American people and the world, says the prime minister after bipartisan leadership sends formal letter

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-accepts-invitation-to-address-joint-session-of-congress/

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday accepted an invitation to address a joint session of Congress.

He said that he was “excited for the privilege to present in front of the representatives of the American people and the entire world the truth about our just war against those who wish to kill us.”

The statement from the Prime Minister’s Office boasted that he would be the first world leader to address a joint session of Congress for a fourth time. He is currently tied at three with Britain’s wartime prime minister, Winston Churchill.

No date has been set, but the speech is expected to take place “as soon as the next eight weeks or soon after August recess,” a source familiar with the matter told The Hill.

On Friday, US Congressional leaders from both parties sent Netanyahu the invitation, a show of wartime support for longtime ally Israel despite mounting political divisions over the war against Hamas in Gaza.

In the letter, the congressional leaders said the invitation was extended to “highlight America’s solidarity with Israel.”

The letter was signed by House Speaker Mike Johnson, a Republican, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat, and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican.

“We invite you to share the Israeli government’s vision for defending democracy, combatting terror and establishing a just and lasting peace in the region,” they wrote.

An Israeli official confirmed Netanyahu’s receipt of the invitation to reporters.

The Hill said the invitation — first suggested by Johnson — was issued after weeks of delay caused by Schumer, who gave a speech on the Senate floor in March calling for early elections in Israel to replace Netanyahu. Schumer ultimately acquiesced, saying he was prepared to cooperate in a Netanyahu address as long as it was done in a bipartisan way.

“The horrific attacks of October 7th shocked the world and forced your nation into a fight for its very existence. We join the State of Israel in your struggle against terror, especially as Hamas continues to hold American and Israeli citizens captive and its leaders jeopardize regional stability,” the letter reads. “For this reason, on behalf of the bipartisan leadership of the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate, we would like to invite you to address a Joint Meeting of Congress.”

An official familiar with the matter told The Times of Israel that Netanyahu had been speaking in recent weeks to Republican Congressional leaders about a potential joint session address, viewing it as an opportunity to make Israel’s case on the global stage and is less concerned about some of the political fallout within the US.

Republicans, including presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, have been eager to display their support for Netanyahu and expose the Democratic divisions over Israel.

Nearly 60 Democrats boycotted Netanyahu’s last joint session address in 2015, which was organized by Republican Congressional leaders behind the back of then-US president Barack Obama in order for the Israeli premier to lobby against the nuclear deal that Washington wound up signing with Iran later that year.

A much larger number of Democrats would likely boycott a Netanyahu speech, as the war in Gaza has become increasingly unpopular among progressives.

The war sparked by Hamas’s October 7 atrocities has also led to a rupture in Netanyahu’s relationship with US President Joe Biden, who in May threatened for the first time  to withhold weapons from Israel if it launched a massive offensive in the civilian areas of Rafah.

While Netanyahu has shored up the invite from Congress, he has not yet received one from the White House and making the trip to Washington without one would only further highlight the divides.

Even before October 7, Netanyahu had not received an invite to the White House since his return to office in late 2022, as he quickly drew Biden’s ire over his efforts to radically overhaul Israel’s judiciary and actions seen as harming the US administration’s attempt to preserve prospects for a two-state solution. Biden visited Israel shortly after the Hamas-led attack, in the first-ever trip a US president has made to the Jewish state amid a war.

Friday’s invitation notably came minutes after Biden gave a speech presenting what he said was the latest Israeli proposal for a hostage deal and ceasefire to end the war, and calling on Hamas to accept the offer.

A congressional aide told The Times of Israel that Schumer’s office coordinated with the White House on the matter.