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Elgin Marbles should be returned to Greece.

But seeing as they were given to the UK by the Turks when they ruled Greece, and someone here thinks its ok for Israel to keep palestinian land . olive and orange groves, fuck 'em 😁

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41 minutes ago, Vesper said:

lol

QAnon

flypaper for the RW mouthbreathers

 

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I dont think 'democracies have ever been more divisive. US, UK Canada, Europe, even Japan If you go back 25-30 years to the fall of Berlin wall 1989 people respected the opposition. They might not agree with them but accepted the election results.

Now 'if you're not with us you're against us and we hate you'

Cui bono from dividing people ? -the very rich. However they ought to be careful using their billionaire media barons and social media moguls to stoke disharmony. History shows autocratic regimes are the most likely to confiscate the assets of the rich....

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19 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

You would be a terrorist. That being said, if the British oppressed and committed genocide against the Greeks to obtain that archaeological treasure, they too would be considered terrorists. 

Noticing a theme?

By the way what is the definition of genocide for you? 

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1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The deliberate killing of an ethnic group with the intention of wiping it away or barring it. 

 

Deliberate? So in that case how can you call what Israel is doing is genocide? As by that definition they where not deliberate. They warn people to flee before the bombing. But Hamas stop their own people from leaving. So by that definition it don't count as "deliberate" is the key. 

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Deliberate? So in that case how can you call what Israel is doing is genocide? As by that definition they where not deliberate. They warn people to flee before the bombing. But Hamas stop their own people from leaving. So by that definition it don't count as "deliberate" is the key. 

It is genocide when their leader, Netanyahu, has been on record since the early 2000s of his intentions on Palestine, the Gaza strip, and the West Bank. It is genocide when Palestinians protest peacefully, they get shot by the IDF. When they congregate to bury those who were killed, they are once again shot. All they've seen in their lives are violence and destruction, and peaceful means are met with the same amount of aggression. It's not exactly a surprise they see counter violence as their only way out, and they are branded terrorists by the settling force and their powerful allies. 

Israel are given billions of military aid annually from the USA and diplomatic support all across Europe. I would expect Israel to target military infrastructure as a result of this, not an excuse to target civilian infrastructure. Israel removing their food, water, electricity and warning Palestinians to flee their homes when they know full well these people have no where else to go and 50% of the population are children, just further emphasizes their intentions of taking control and eliminating Palestinians.

Genocide to get rid of Hamas is the only answer apparently. 

 

Terrorist's vs Defending ourselves.                    dO yOu cONdEmN oCtoBEr 7th?????

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In the West bank:

Israeli missiles, grenades and explosives have left a broad scar of destruction in Jenin - several houses gutted or collapsed; large chunks of masonry hanging over mounds of rubble. Diggers were helping search for a body still believed to be buried there. 

The small figure on the security camera video turns and starts to run, before falling sharply to the ground.

His eight-year-old body easily dragged from the road by a friend.

The life of Adam al-Ghoul ended in Jenin today with a shot to the head, as Israeli forces withdrew from a military operation in the camp there.

In a nearby street, his 14-year-old friend, Basel Abulwafa was fighting for his life after being shot in the chest - gunfire hitting the ground around him.

At Jenin Hospital, both boys were declared dead.

The UN says more than 50 children have been killed by Israeli forces in the occupied West Bank since 7 October.

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6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It is genocide when their leader, Netanyahu, has been on record since the early 2000s of his intentions on Palestine, the Gaza strip, and the West Bank. It is genocide when Palestinians protest peacefully, they get shot by the IDF. When they congregate to bury those who were killed, they are once again shot. All they've seen in their lives are violence and destruction, and peaceful means are met with the same amount of aggression. It's not exactly a surprise they see counter violence as their only way out, and they are branded terrorists by the settling force and their powerful allies. 

Israel are given billions of military aid annually from the USA and diplomatic support all across Europe. I would expect Israel to target military infrastructure as a result of this, not an excuse to target civilian infrastructure. Israel removing their food, water, electricity and warning Palestinians to flee their homes when they know full well these people have no where else to go and 50% of the population are children, just further emphasizes their intentions of taking control and eliminating Palestinians.

Genocide to get rid of Hamas is the only answer apparently. 

 

Terrorist's vs Defending ourselves.                    dO yOu cONdEmN oCtoBEr 7th?????

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Again you go of rail. I'm just going by your definition of "Deliberate"

Deliberate is not warning people to flee otherwise they die. That is not deliberate not matter what else you bring me. 

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16 hours ago, Fernando said:

Again you go of rail. I'm just going by your definition of "Deliberate"

Deliberate is not warning people to flee otherwise they die. That is not deliberate not matter what else you bring me. 

Forcing people out of their homes by shutting off their food, water, and electricity whilst warning them off an air raid knowing full well half of the population is 50% children and the only place they can go is the Egyptian Desert is by all accounts intentional genocide whether you want to believe it or not. 

But you continue on believing this Israel defending themselves genocide only started happening after Oct 7th. 

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Forcing people out of their homes by shutting off their food, water, and electricity whilst warning them off an air raid knowing full well half of the population is 50% children and the only place they can go is the Egyptian Desert is by all accounts intentional genocide whether you want to believe it or not. 

But you continue on believing this Israel defending themselves genocide only started happening after Oct 7th. 

Hey I was just going by your definition. And I say that definition don't fit the bill. 

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So, by exactly the same token, when the allies passed beyond the Zigfried line and the Geries were now on the receiving end, Eisenhower ought to have halted operations.
Message to Adolph "ok herr Hitler, no more war - just prepare your new weapons and we wait".

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