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[lucio 5,418]

5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I stay strong with Isreal in this difficult times! Every democratic/liberal government has obligation to protect them! 

Cucked take

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Where are all the MPs endlessly parroting ''Iran has the right to defend itself'',? oh hang on Iran didnt 'donate' 10m to the tory party and 4m to the Labour party, nor murder 20 000 women and children.....

[cosmicway 1,333]

Iran chickened out - it was internal consumption.
They can fund terrorists but they can't do nothing against Israel - they have to jump two countries.

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1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Iran chickened out - it was internal consumption.
They can fund terrorists but they can't do nothing against Israel - they have to jump two countries.

They can (especially IF they activate Hezbollah to go all out attack) fuck up Isreal with sheer numbers (hundreds of thousands in toto) of medium range ballistic missles and drones, which will overwhelm the Israeli Iron Dome defences.

BUT if they did that, the US will step in and destroy vast swathes of Iran.

A huge worry is IF the RW religio zio-loons and Bibi feel they are about to go down and they nuke Iran. Then, if that crazed shite happens, all bets are OFF!!!

Hell if they thought they (Israeli) were doomed and going to be utterly destroyed (let's say other nations join in in attacking Israel, including nukes from Pakistan that are scattered about, not just only in Pakistan) despite the US efforts, they might activate the Samson Option and let loose all 400, 500 thermonuclear hydrogen bombs they have (many on ultra quiet stealth diesel subs that, drum roll for irony......, Germany sold them) on the world. They have at least 50 targeted for Germany alone, and the rest of the targets will include Russia, the US, China, India, etc as well. Every continet except Antartica will be smashed. The whole smörgåsbord of global nuclear death targeting.

The Samson Option is, in a nutshell, the destruction (as much as possible, and they will not care about the few millions of jews outside of Israel) of the planetary human population if Israel is going to be destroyed.

The only people who might survive the long lasting global nuclear winter and the dispersed radioative fallout that 500 hydrogen bombs (and do not forget, ALL the other nuke powers will launch on isreal too, and perhaps each other, especially Russia and China, India, and Pakistan and yes, the US and the UK) would produce would be a a few hundred thousand (at most) systemic controllers and ultra rich who may be able to survive in up-to-miles-deep underground mini cities (or crazy remote long term personal bunkers) that are scattered around the globe. They would have to hold out for many decades, perhaps even centuries, underground.

 

Edited April 15, 2024 by Vesper

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

They can (especially IF they activate Hezbollah to go all out attack) fuck up Isreal with sheer numbers (hundreds of thousands in toto) of medium range ballistic missles and drones, which will overwhelm the Israeli Iron Dome defences.

BUT if they did that, the US will step in and destroy vast swathes of Iran.

A huge worry is IF the RW religio zio-loons and Bibi feel they are about to go down and they nuke Iran. Then, if that crazed shite happens, all bets are OFF!!!

Hell if they thought they (Israeli) were doomed and going to be utterly destroyed (let's say other nations join in in attacking Israel, including nukes from Pakistan that are scattered about, not just only in Pakistan) despite the US efforts, they might activate the Samson Option and let loose all 400, 500 thermonuclear hydrogen bombs they have (many on ultra quiet stealth diesel subs that, drum roll for irony......, Germany sold them) on the world. They have at least 50 targeted for Germany alone, and the rest of the targets will include Russia, the US, China, India, etc as well. Every continet except Antartica will be smashed. The whole smörgåsbord of global nuclear death targeting.

The Samson Option is, in a nutshell, the destruction (as much as possible, and they will not care about the few millions of jews outside of Israel) of the planetary human population if Israel is going to be destroyed.

The only people who might survive the long lasting global nuclear winter and the dispersed radioative fallout that 500 hydrogen bombs (and do not forget, ALL the other nuke powers will launch on isreal too, and perhaps each other, especially Russia and China, India, and Pakistan and yes, the US and the UK) would produce would be a a few hundred thousand (at most) systemic controllers and ultra rich who may be able to survive in up-to-miles-deep underground mini cities (or crazy remote long term personal bunkers) that are scattered around the globe. They would have to hold out for many decades, perhaps even centuries, underground.

 

Reckon such an attack (sheer numbers) wouldn't be logistically possible with today's tech. It would be way too obvious (satellite would spot them early and easily) and therefore slow to pull off, which would just make it a lot easier for Israel and its allies to defend against it. There people traveling "on foot" (or at least slowly) would just be easy targets for today's weapons.

Would need to know more about tactical nukes, but considering the size of Israel, I'm not even sure they can be safely employed there; like without collateral damage to its neighbors. Neighbor of mine used to be in the rocket business -- he'd not tell me a thing tho (I asked) just that he travelled to Russia often. My understanding is that there are vast differences in tech among the ballistic missiles, which means speed, accuracy, and in the end how easy to stop them can vary drastically.

All we can hope is that cooler heads prevail and that the actual leaders, on all sides, have more logic than beliefs in their heads. We've been in worse situations in the past, and are still here.

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2 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Reckon such an attack (sheer numbers) wouldn't be logistically possible with today's tech. It would be way too obvious (satellite would spot them early and easily) and therefore slow to pull off, which would just make it a lot easier for Israel and its allies to defend against it. There people traveling "on foot" (or at least slowly) would just be easy targets for today's weapons.

Would need to know more about tactical nukes, but considering the size of Israel, I'm not even sure they can be safely employed there; like without collateral damage to its neighbors. Neighbor of mine used to be in the rocket business -- he'd not tell me a thing tho (I asked) just that he travelled to Russia often. My understanding is that there are vast differences in tech among the ballistic missiles, which means speed, accuracy, and in the end how easy to stop them can vary drastically.

All we can hope is that cooler heads prevail and that the actual leaders, on all sides, have more logic than beliefs in their heads. We've been in worse situations in the past, and are still here.

I have watched former general after former general, from the very highest levels (ex Nato Supreme Commander, ex US Joint Chiefs of Staff members, our current Swedish Supreme commander, etc etc) for two days say that a massive missile attack from Iran would overwhelm Iron Dome and that even the US could not come close to stopping them all, if launched in sufficient numbers, numbers that each and every one said Iran is more than capable of putting into play.

[robsblubot 3,595]

14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I have watched former general after former general, from the very highest levels (ex Nato Supreme Commander, ex US Joint Chiefs of Staff members, our current Swedish Supreme commander, etc etc) for two days say that a massive missile attack from Iran would overwhelm Iron Dome and that even the US could not come close to stopping them all, if launched in sufficient numbers, numbers that each and every one said Iran is more than capable of putting into play.

Heh I thought you meant "boots on the ground" not missiles. Yeah wouldn't doubt that, but then again, like you said, the USA would get involved.

Edited April 15, 2024 by robsblubot

[lucio 5,418]

USA and U.K. are so cringe. Getting involved with everything 

[lucio 5,418]

Votes against a ceasefire in Gaza because he’s fine with his fellow Jews murdering gentile children and now has the audacity to ask for help like Israel got vs iran . He’s literally a clown 

[cosmicway 1,333]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

They can (especially IF they activate Hezbollah to go all out attack) fuck up Isreal with sheer numbers (hundreds of thousands in toto) of medium range ballistic missles and drones, which will overwhelm the Israeli Iron Dome defences.

BUT if they did that, the US will step in and destroy vast swathes of Iran.

A huge worry is IF the RW religio zio-loons and Bibi feel they are about to go down and they nuke Iran. Then, if that crazed shite happens, all bets are OFF!!!

Hell if they thought they (Israeli) were doomed and going to be utterly destroyed (let's say other nations join in in attacking Israel, including nukes from Pakistan that are scattered about, not just only in Pakistan) despite the US efforts, they might activate the Samson Option and let loose all 400, 500 thermonuclear hydrogen bombs they have (many on ultra quiet stealth diesel subs that, drum roll for irony......, Germany sold them) on the world. They have at least 50 targeted for Germany alone, and the rest of the targets will include Russia, the US, China, India, etc as well. Every continet except Antartica will be smashed. The whole smörgåsbord of global nuclear death targeting.

The Samson Option is, in a nutshell, the destruction (as much as possible, and they will not care about the few millions of jews outside of Israel) of the planetary human population if Israel is going to be destroyed.

The only people who might survive the long lasting global nuclear winter and the dispersed radioative fallout that 500 hydrogen bombs (and do not forget, ALL the other nuke powers will launch on isreal too, and perhaps each other, especially Russia and China, India, and Pakistan and yes, the US and the UK) would produce would be a a few hundred thousand (at most) systemic controllers and ultra rich who may be able to survive in up-to-miles-deep underground mini cities (or crazy remote long term personal bunkers) that are scattered around the globe. They would have to hold out for many decades, perhaps even centuries, underground.

 

 

Nonsense.
But what is happening is the US hesitate to take on Iran.
There is a maximm size of country that can be invaded and it seems Iraq size is an approximation to that maximum size.
So in the past Soviet Union attacked Hungary and Czechoslovakia but could not attack Jugoslavia and Romania as they wanted to do.
Turkey also cannot be ivaded.
In the case of Ukraine now, Ukraine is big but the war seems to be confined in the east - southeast.
But I believe Iran will eventually get it.

 

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10 hours ago, cosmicway said:

 

Nonsense.
But what is happening is the US hesitate to take on Iran.
There is a maximm size of country that can be invaded and it seems Iraq size is an approximation to that maximum size.
So in the past Soviet Union attacked Hungary and Czechoslovakia but could not attack Jugoslavia and Romania as they wanted to do.
Turkey also cannot be ivaded.
In the case of Ukraine now, Ukraine is big but the war seems to be confined in the east - southeast.
But I believe Iran will eventually get it.

 

No, not nonsense

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[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Sleepy Joe, Sleepy orange ape, just stop allowing old cunts to stand for office

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2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Sleepy Joe, Sleepy orange ape, just stop allowing old cunts to stand for office

it is almost impossible (talking about Biden) for an American sitting president to not run again for a second term IF they choose to

their system doesn't work for challengers in the primaries

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

it is almost impossible (talking about Biden) for an American sitting president to not run again for a second term IF they choose to

their system doesn't work for challengers in the primaries

You'd have to have a good challenger, and we dont really produce those.

 

Nobody in their right mind would vote for a Nikki Haley or  RFK Jr.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

it is almost impossible (talking about Biden) for an American sitting president to not run again for a second term IF they choose to

their system doesn't work for challengers in the primaries

Well then its up to US citizens to demand change, otherwise they get the World of Shit by default

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Well then its up to US citizens to demand change, otherwise they get the World of Shit by default

They don't give a shit about the average citizen. You need money to even be taken serious.

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