Politics & Stuff

[lucio 5,418]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

We had the Spanish inquisition.
Us Greeks are taught that the orthodox church "never did such things" but is it entirely true ?
And as we were ruled by the Ottomans from the 15th century onwards could the orthodox church even if they wanted to ? It was the Ottoman muzzies were running the show here.
But whilst all that was back in the 14th-15th-16th century, the muslim fanatics are doing it now in the 20th-21st centuries and they run entire countries.
It's not some fanatical priests in some isolated villages. They run entire countries.
 

Orthodox in Constantinople genocided all the western catholic residents at one point , I’ve no idea If the church commanded it though. The Orthodox Church certainly has less sexual scandals as most of the priests are married men with families 

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

Orthodox in Constantinople genocided all the western catholic residents at one point , I’ve no idea If the church commanded it though. The Orthodox Church certainly has less sexual scandals as most of the priests are married men with families 

This did happen sometime in the 12th century - a pogrom against the Latin merchants. I don't know who instigated it though.
The Orthodox church has plenty of sex scandals and one of my gfs was a priest. Not a bishop though or he could n't get married. But some of his uncles were bishops.

[cosmicway 1,333]

gf = grandfather

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Starmer the Labour leader, the top lawyer in the country has refused to say cutting off water, electricity and food to 1.1million children is breaking International Law.

Just watching Witness. Live coverage of paramedics in Gaza.

Mostly children with faces burnt off, still alive, one with a leg missing others completely burned, dozens of dead bodies, some still twitching, mostly children, strewn along the 'safe' road the Israelis told them to flee along.

School blown to bits, kids lying in pools of blood. Endless screaming. The hospital, no water, just bodies on the floor. Babies in defunct incubators given death certificates before their birth certificates...

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Starmer the Labour leader, the top lawyer in the country has refused to say cutting off water, electricity and food to 1.1million children is breaking International Law.

Just watching Witness. Live coverage of paramedics in Gaza.

Mostly children with faces burnt off, still alive, one with a leg missing others completely burned, dozens of dead bodies, some still twitching, mostly children, strewn along the 'safe' road the Israelis told them to flee along.

School blown to bits, kids lying in pools of blood. Endless screaming. The hospital, no water, just bodies on the floor. Babies in defunct incubators given death certificates before their birth certificates...

Because that's where the war is.
You can't occupy Berlin without hurting children with bombs, once Hitler decided not to declare it an undefended city.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

1 minute ago, cosmicway said:

Because that's where the war is.
You can't occupy Berlin without hurting children with bombs, once Hitler decided not to declare it an undefended city.

Dont be stupid. Its not a war its a massacre. Israel have the second strongest arms on Earth, Hamas have a few guns and flying dustbins

[cosmicway 1,333]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Dont be stupid. Its not a war its a massacre. Israel have the second strongest arms on Earth, Hamas have a few guns and flying dustbins

Berlin was also not a war but a massacre and Hitler was left with a few dustbins.
Stalingrad too but the defending Russians won there.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

5 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Berlin was also not a war but a massacre and Hitler was left with a few dustbins.
Stalingrad too but the defending Russians won there.

This is not WW2. Stop endorsing genocide

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

This is not WW2. Stop endorsing genocide

Look, we are all governed by the black reaction these days.
But you will never defeat black reaction with terror.
Furthermore if you do that you give rise to a new Pol Pot, which is exactly what we have here in the Middle East.
This will be black reaction +++++.

 

Edited November 5, 2023 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Look, we are all governed by the black reaction these days.
But you will never defeat black reaction with terror.
Furthermore if you do that you give rise to a new Pol Pot, which is exactly what we have here in the Middle East.
This will be black reaction +++++.

 

Dont know what the fuck that means - but if Turks invade Cyprus I look forward to you defending them when they murder 6000 Greek children

[cosmicway 1,333]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Dont know what the fuck that means - but if Turks invade Cyprus I look forward to you defending them when they murder 6000 Greek children

You know what it means.
Well, when the Turks attacked Cyprus the Greek soldiers defended Cyprus without hurting civilians (*) like Hamas did. They were few, no reinforcements, they lost.
Also Hamas did a 9-11, it was not collateral victims.

(*) disputed by the Turks untruthfully more likely than not, but if some did that then they were war criminals too

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

You know what it means.
Well, when the Turks attacked Cyprus the Greek soldiers defended Cyprus without hurting civilians (*) like Hamas did. They were few, no reinforcements, they lost.
Also Hamas did a 9-11, it was not collateral victims.

(*) disputed by the Turks untruthfully more likely than not, but if some did that then they were war criminals too

Youre defending the murder of children. Disgusting

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Youre defending the murder of children. Disgusting

Premeditated by Hamas to happen.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

1 minute ago, cosmicway said:

Premeditated by Hamas to happen.

You are endorsing genocide and murder of children

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

You are endorsing genocide and murder of children

I don't agree with what he is saying, but don't be fooled for one second that Hamas wouldn't do the exact same if they had the means to do so, the fact Israel has the means to do it and it's happening is disgusting, but if Hamas had the means to do the same, trust me nothing would be different. There is no winners or right and wrong here, this is humanity at its worst. The slaughtering of children happens every day in huge numbers, ppl only give a shit when the BBC report it.

Edited November 5, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I don't agree with what he is saying, but don't be fooled for one second that Hamas wouldn't do the exact same if they had the means to do so, the fact Israel has the means to do it and it's happening is disgusting, but if Hamas had the means to do the same, trust me nothing would be different. There is no winners or right and wrong here, this is humanity at its worst.

Hamas went mental when they were elected but refused to be recognised by Israel. Most Middle east countries and that'Middle east Envoy, Tony Blair said it was a mistake to treat them like cunts. Bottom line the people of Israel and Palestinians have been betrayed by arms dealers, politicians, they just want to live in peace like every one else

[cosmicway 1,333]

I 'm sorry I cannot accept this thing with the children etc (the Hamas human shields in reality).
It's just part of the landscape in this war.
If you don't like wars the first person to talk to would be Adolph Hitler. Now his descendants.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Hamas went mental when they were elected but refused to be recognised by Israel. Most Middle east countries and that'Middle east Envoy, Tony Blair said it was a mistake to treat them like cunts. Bottom line the people of Israel and Palestinians have been betrayed by arms dealers, politicians, they just want to live in peace like every one else

50% of Israelis polled in 2007 wouldnt live in the same building as an Arab:

They dont want peace, they want the other side gone and it seems that feeling is mutual for the Arabs.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

17 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

50% of Israelis polled in 2007 wouldnt live in the same building as an Arab:

They dont want peace, they want the other side gone and it seems that feeling is mutual for the Arabs.

Sad isnt it. Fed dehumanising propaganda its not surprising. Years ago was doing some outreach work in London on a really rough estate. There were quite a few working class racist boneheads. Engaging them,  they were jobless, and renting flats and bedsits. Their racism towards Bangladeshis and Pakistanis became understandable. My point being they had limited education and had been told they didnt have a nice house, job etc because  the immigrants had taken them all. They were fed that BS from intelligent people just to shift blame and find scapegoats. The condemnation and fear of 'the other' is a root of so many problems. That fear is usually engendered by rich powerful people with vested interests in division. With israel they ignored the Oslo Peace accord, broke dozens of UN resolutions, and Netanyahu has openly said its in the interests to finance and arm Hamas (2019) to never have a two state situation.

[Fernando 6,585]

21 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Hamas went mental when they were elected but refused to be recognised by Israel. Most Middle east countries and that'Middle east Envoy, Tony Blair said it was a mistake to treat them like cunts. Bottom line the people of Israel and Palestinians have been betrayed by arms dealers, politicians, they just want to live in peace like every one else

They want to leave in peace I believe it, the problem are the leaders as you mentioned. Any good leader that cares for their people will surrender and ask for them to be giving freedom to leave somewhere else. 

I take this from the movie kingdom of heaven with Orlando bloom 

Was a great movie that shows that war and death in this area has been a thing of the past and will continue in the future. But the leader in this movie which was Orlando bloom negotiate a surender and surrender the city to the invading army. Orlando bloom people was allow to leave the city and relocate somewhere else and give life to his people. 

At this time Hamas must do the same. Surrender and let their people have the possibility to survive somewhere else. Give them a land in Alaska or something like that. But of course that ain't happening because hatred for each other is much more than caring for your own people.