Politics & Stuff

[Vesper 30,233]

23 minutes ago, lucio said:

Corbyn didn’t do shit against Jewish people , just a chance to undermine Labour Party 

I have pushed back against American (from conservative and centrist Democrats, most all Republicans and Israeli bootlickers in general) lies about Corbyn hundreds of times

same for our fellow zionist Brits and their slurs and lies

I posted that article for a look at how the so-called 'centre left' (more like the corporate powers) is covering Labour across the pond

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Imagine if any Arab country, or any country come to that had murdered 9300 civilians, mainly women and children, and also 62 UN workers, bombed schools, hospitals, and refugee camps....

Its fine, its Israel

[Gundalf 806]

21 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Imagine if any Arab country, or any country come to that had murdered 9300 civilians, mainly women and children, and also 62 UN workers, bombed schools, hospitals, and refugee camps....

Its fine, its Israel

There are a lot of people in the world, even entire nations, that still support Russia, who have done way worse.

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Imagine if any Arab country, or any country come to that had murdered 9300 civilians, mainly women and children, and also 62 UN workers, bombed schools, hospitals, and refugee camps....

Its fine, its Israel

gods country, gods chosen people. ...

והא כל היכא דאית ליה חיובא מיתנא קתני דקתני רישא על שפיכות דמים כותי בכותי וכותי בישראל חייב ישראל בכותי פטור

• Sanhedrin 57a:16
• Translation:
  • With regard to bloodshed, if a gentile murders another gentile, or a gentile murders a Jew, he is liable. If a Jew murders a gentile, he is exempt
•  

[Gundalf 806]

The world consists of hypocrisy, not just in the western world, but everywhere. 

• Countries that are criticising Israel are happily funding and equipping Russia to kill Ukrainians (Iran)
• Erdogan, who is criticising Israel, is dropping bombs on the Kurds as we speak and is supporting Azerbajan to clean Karabakh from Armenians.
• Saudi-Arabia, who is criticising Israel, is fighting a brutal war in Yemen since 2015.
• China, who proclaims the two-state-solution, is openly admitting that there are plans to invade Taiwan. 
• China, who is criticising Israel, oppresses muslims in the most unhuman way - no protests, no uprising in the muslim word, instead intensified business connections over the last few years - money is more important to them than human beings it seems.  

The world is just a shithole and Israel is definitely not the "evil face" of that world - its just one of many countries doing shit.

[Gundalf 806]

4 minutes ago, lucio said:

 If a Jew murders a gentile, he is exempt

Same line goes for muslims. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

18 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

There are a lot of people in the world, even entire nations, that still support Russia, who have done way worse.

More Palestinian civilians killed since Oct 7th than the whole Russia Ukraine war, two years ago

[lucio 5,418]

Just now, Gundalf said:

Same line goes for muslims. 

I'm nor sure, although the difference is that anyone can become a muslim, being Jewish is a matter of blood irrespective of whether someone believes. The whole identity is rooted in racial supremacy

[lucio 5,418]

Burma/Myanmar is one of the worst, but no one cares because it's poor and irrelevant

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

US war contractors, and weapons portfolio holders are already citing the record profits they are making from whats happening in Middle east

 

[Gundalf 806]

23 hours ago, lucio said:

I'm nor sure, although the difference is that anyone can become a muslim, being Jewish is a matter of blood irrespective of whether someone believes. The whole identity is rooted in racial supremacy

Yeah, thats what the Nazis made it to and what the altright worshippers want us to believe. In reality, conversion to Judaism is ofc possible just like for other religions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

There are 20.000 conversions each year. 

As for Islam:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.” Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).” Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.

Every religion has these lines.

 

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Yeah, thats what the Nazis made it to and what the altright worshippers want us to believe. In reality, conversion to Judaism is ofc possible just like for other religions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

There are 20.000 conversions each year. 

As for Islam:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.” Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).” Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.

Every religion has these lines.

 

Not possible in the most serious religious sects , lots of wishy washy liberal Jewish sects made up of white former Christians from USA role playing as Israelites 

converting to some form of Judaism dosent make you a Jew , especially in the eyes of the more traditional sects 

Edited November 4, 2023 by lucio

[lucio 5,418]

26 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Yeah, thats what the Nazis made it to and what the altright worshippers want us to believe. In reality, conversion to Judaism is ofc possible just like for other religions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

There are 20.000 conversions each year. 

As for Islam:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.” Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).” Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.

Every religion has these lines.

 

Not every religion has lines like that 

islam was founded by a pedophile warlord , Muhammad was an Arabic equivalent of genghis Khan not an Arabic Buddha 

the majority of the worlds religions are chill , it’s just the more problematic ones have more followers/ influence 

[Vesper 30,233]

22 minutes ago, lucio said:

Not possible in the most serious religious sects , lots of wishy washy liberal Jewish sects made up of white former Christians from USA role playing as Israelites 

converting to some form of Judaism dosent make you a Jew , especially in the eyes of the more traditional sects 

yes, I Ivanka Trump (aka 'Daddy's Little Lap Dance') claims to be an orthodox Jew now. roflmaooooooooooooo

 

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Vesper

[Fernando 6,585]

On 03/11/2023 at 15:58, lucio said:

Burma/Myanmar is one of the worst, but no one cares because it's poor and irrelevant

That's the other thing. As I mentioned it's all about the money. 

World don't care about this because theirs no vested interest. 

In Ukraine vs Russia it's easy to go there because Russia is a big country with power and money. 

Here in Israel vs Hamas it's easy to go there because Israel is a powerful country with money. 

In poor places who cares? Let them kill themselves as there's no one to hate or care. 

It's all about money. 

[Thor 2,728]

Y'all really focused on "A vs B" and how A is wrong, and B is right. 

 

World has already lost. I'd love another planet where people who don't care about any of this, political sides, holy land, scriptures, woke vs not woke can just go, and those who do can just stay here and fight about it. 

 

I just want to live and let live. 

[Vesper 30,233]

5 hours ago, lucio said:

the majority of the worlds religions are chill

no, no they are not

 

[lucio 5,418]

5 hours ago, Vesper said:

no, no they are not

 

Nah most are , like Wicca , Jainism , Siberian shamanism , most pre colonial folk religions. Most forms of Buddhism too. 
 

they don’t really seek to convert people and don’t condemn people to hell who don’t join , 

if you think about it , most of the worlds indigenous culture and religion was wiped out by the monotheistic desert god (apart from some of east Asia) 

[cosmicway 1,333]

12 hours ago, lucio said:

Not every religion has lines like that 

islam was founded by a pedophile warlord , Muhammad was an Arabic equivalent of genghis Khan not an Arabic Buddha 

the majority of the worlds religions are chill , it’s just the more problematic ones have more followers/ influence 

We had the Spanish inquisition.
Us Greeks are taught that the orthodox church "never did such things" but is it entirely true ?
And as we were ruled by the Ottomans from the 15th century onwards could the orthodox church even if they wanted to ? It was the Ottoman muzzies were running the show here.
But whilst all that was back in the 14th-15th-16th century, the muslim fanatics are doing it now in the 20th-21st centuries and they run entire countries.
It's not some fanatical priests in some isolated villages. They run entire countries.
 

[kolovrat 20]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

We had the Spanish inquisition.
Us Greeks are taught that the orthodox church "never did such things" but is it entirely true ?
And as we were ruled by the Ottomans from the 15th century onwards could the orthodox church even if they wanted to ? It was the Ottoman muzzies were running the show here.
But whilst all that was back in the 14th-15th-16th century, the muslim fanatics are doing it now in the 20th-21st centuries and they run entire countries.
It's not some fanatical priests in some isolated villages. They run entire countries.
 

The Spanish Inquisition was created to hunt down Marranos (crypto-jews).

"The term marrano came into later use in 1492 with the Castilian Alhambra Decree, which prohibited the practice of Judaism in Spain and required all remaining Jews to convert or leave. The Spanish Inquisition was established prior to the decree, surveilled New Christians to detect whether their conversion to Christianity was sincere."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano