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35 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

A liberal Israeli is one who's getting off their land. You arent helping by committing theft by receiving.

 

The Idea that a bunch of kids partying next to a jail is on the side of the people of the jail is silly.

What land? Seriously you going there? lol 

Then Americans are the same as we took the land from the Native Americas. Australians are the same as they took it from the Aboriginals. and on and on. 

Ridicoules argument to be fair because we can go back until the beginning of the dawn of men and we would always be fighting this. 

In the end the point stand, it is racist saying all Germans are Nazi, saying all Palestinians are terrorist and all Jews are genocides.....

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9 hours ago, Fernando said:

What land? Seriously you going there? lol 

Then Americans are the same as we took the land from the Native Americas. Australians are the same as they took it from the Aboriginals. and on and on. 

Ridicoules argument to be fair because we can go back until the beginning of the dawn of men and we would always be fighting this. 

In the end the point stand, it is racist saying all Germans are Nazi, saying all Palestinians are terrorist and all Jews are genocides.....

The land that was taken from the natives. 

 

You are right we did take land from others, and as people who did it is our job to make sure we dont allow such injustices to continue.

 

Murder existed since the dawn of men, that doesnt mean we were wrong to make laws outlawing it.


We made our view on Apartheid clear decades ago in this country. Its wrong our money goes to helping people perpetuate it in the middle of Western Asia. While kids starve here, while kids are missing here. I'd throw all our our politicians out behind this.

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13 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

The land that was taken from the natives. 

 

You are right we did take land from others, and as people who did it is our job to make sure we dont allow such injustices to continue.

 

Murder existed since the dawn of men, that doesnt mean we were wrong to make laws outlawing it.


We made our view on Apartheid clear decades ago in this country. Its wrong our money goes to helping people perpetuate it in the middle of Western Asia. While kids starve here, while kids are missing here. I'd throw all our our politicians out behind this.

Well that's something else. Just like Qatar gave money to Hamas and they instead of helping their people they decided to spend it on rockets and tunnels for terrorism. 

You will always have this problem of where the money is going and how it's being used. 

 

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@Sir Mikel OBEby the way Joel Richardson put it rightly, if you back Palestinians to do terrorism against Israel just because they took their land then you should back native American to slaughter and do terrorism against Americans because we took their land.

So Israel now lives their and they want to live in peace but it's surrounding by nations that wants to destroy them.

Joel Richardson talking some sense in this video. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Fernando said:

@Sir Mikel OBEby the way Joel Richardson put it rightly, if you back Palestinians to do terrorism against Israel just because they took their land then you should back native American to slaughter and do terrorism against Americans because we took their land.

So Israel now lives their and they want to live in peace but it's surrounding by nations that wants to destroy them.

Joel Richardson talking some sense in this video. 

 

 

Very interesting video. He seems to have good convos on the podcast.

 

I dont think we can say they want to live in peace when a Jew cannot marry a Christian in Israel. We shouldn't be funding an apartheid state.

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9 hours ago, Fernando said:

@Sir Mikel OBEby the way Joel Richardson put it rightly, if you back Palestinians to do terrorism against Israel just because they took their land then you should back native American to slaughter and do terrorism against Americans because we took their land.

So Israel now lives their and they want to live in peace but it's surrounding by nations that wants to destroy them.

Joel Richardson talking some sense in this video. 

 

 

 

Joel Richardson is an 'end times' RW christian nut job

he sounds insane in that interview (and RW fascist and racist and sooo Islamophobic)

lol, he said Gun And Roses helped pave the wave for a 2nd holocaust!

come on!!

 

https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/05/1062-joel-richardson.html

 

Joel Richardson is an anti-abortion activist, decorative painter, armchair apocalyptist and author, who writes for his own blog Joel’s Trumpet, for the WND, as well as for Glenn Beck’s website. His specialty appears to be international politics, on which he takes a decidedly Biblical stance. He has for instance written about how the possible collapse of the European Union may pose a problem for many end-times theologians and their predictions of Biblical prophecy – not for Biblical prophecies per se, to be sure, but for one particular school of endtimes thought. Richardson is himself pretty adamant about the upcoming endtimes, and most of his writings seem to be concerned with how a Muslim Antichrist will lead an army to attack Israel, in fulfillment of the Biblical prophets and the Book of Revelation and usher in the Armageddon. And of course the Muslims are in a revolutionary alliance with the leftists, because they share all the relevant values (i.e. disagreeing with Richardson).
 
Of course, his columns for WND are primarily advertisements for his own books (e.g. Mideast Beast: The Scriptural Case For an Islamic Antichrist and Islamic Antichrist: The Shocking Truth About the Real Nature of the Beast, which asserts that “90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamic terror movements,” though the number is made up) and DVDs about the endtimes, but the distinction between editorial content and advertising has never been taken particularly seriously by that particular website. According to WND Islamic Anti-Christ is also “almost certain to be greeted in the Muslim world with the same enthusiasm as Salman Rushdie’s ‘The Satanic Verses.’ And Richardson is prepared. He has written the book under a pseudonym to protect himself and his family.”
 
Richardson was at least able to see the positive side of an Obama (the “race-baiter”) reelection (which thrilled “millions of pot-heads, sodomites, pro-aborts and all common moochers”) despite his anti-Christian stance: it would help Christians know what it feels like to live in an oppressive state like Iran and take comfort in the fact that the Kingdom of God prophesied in the Bible lies ahead. Obama also foreshadows the Anti-Christ, according to Richardson, but that goes without saying. For an illustration of Richardson’s powers of thought, this one is pretty illuminating.

 

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Joel Richardson is an 'end times' RW christian nut job

he sounds insane in that interview (and RW fascist and racist and sooo Islamophobic)

lol, he said Gun And Roses helped pave the wave for a 2nd holocaust!

come on!!

 

https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/05/1062-joel-richardson.html

 

Joel Richardson is an anti-abortion activist, decorative painter, armchair apocalyptist and author, who writes for his own blog Joel’s Trumpet, for the WND, as well as for Glenn Beck’s website. His specialty appears to be international politics, on which he takes a decidedly Biblical stance. He has for instance written about how the possible collapse of the European Union may pose a problem for many end-times theologians and their predictions of Biblical prophecy – not for Biblical prophecies per se, to be sure, but for one particular school of endtimes thought. Richardson is himself pretty adamant about the upcoming endtimes, and most of his writings seem to be concerned with how a Muslim Antichrist will lead an army to attack Israel, in fulfillment of the Biblical prophets and the Book of Revelation and usher in the Armageddon. And of course the Muslims are in a revolutionary alliance with the leftists, because they share all the relevant values (i.e. disagreeing with Richardson).
 
Of course, his columns for WND are primarily advertisements for his own books (e.g. Mideast Beast: The Scriptural Case For an Islamic Antichrist and Islamic Antichrist: The Shocking Truth About the Real Nature of the Beast, which asserts that “90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamic terror movements,” though the number is made up) and DVDs about the endtimes, but the distinction between editorial content and advertising has never been taken particularly seriously by that particular website. According to WND Islamic Anti-Christ is also “almost certain to be greeted in the Muslim world with the same enthusiasm as Salman Rushdie’s ‘The Satanic Verses.’ And Richardson is prepared. He has written the book under a pseudonym to protect himself and his family.”
 
Richardson was at least able to see the positive side of an Obama (the “race-baiter”) reelection (which thrilled “millions of pot-heads, sodomites, pro-aborts and all common moochers”) despite his anti-Christian stance: it would help Christians know what it feels like to live in an oppressive state like Iran and take comfort in the fact that the Kingdom of God prophesied in the Bible lies ahead. Obama also foreshadows the Anti-Christ, according to Richardson, but that goes without saying. For an illustration of Richardson’s powers of thought, this one is pretty illuminating.

 

But he is also for the Islamic people. They did a document of sheep among wolfs highlighting the difference between Iran the people and Iran regime. 

If he was hatred against the Iranians he would put all Iranians as bad. But he has shown that they are two different things and that people should never forget that. 

It's the same I have been saying. Just because Hamas is in Palestinian land we are not going to say Palestinians are all terrorists. There are good people who are different then the regime that is controlling the place. Likewise in Israel, not everyone wants war and killing, they want peace. And that was my original argument that is why I shared that video. 

You have the regime and you have the people, is two different things. 

They gave an interview on fox News exactly about this:

 

 

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4 hours ago, Fernando said:

They gave an interview on fox News exactly about this:

that alone shows the RW rot

Fox News is the largest source of television RW disinfo (they self-admitted they lie in the defamation trial where in they lost close to 800 billion usd in punitive damages) on the planet

using Fox to somehow try and show credibility for this boke is like bringing in a convicted serial paedo to vouch for your behaviour around children if you applied to work at a pre-school

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18 minutes ago, Vesper said:

that alone shows the RW rot

Fox News is the largest source of television RW disinfo (they self-admitted they lie in the defamation trial where in they lost close to 800 billion usd in punitive damages) on the planet

using Fox to somehow try and show credibility for this boke is like bringing in a convicted serial paedo to vouch for your behaviour around children if you applied to work at a pre-school

So your so close minded that everything that is Fox news is wrong. 

Yeah that is what wrong. Fox news says a lot of bad stuff that I don't agree likewise CNN, but there's some good stuff in both. But when hatred blinds you, everything is thrown out. 

And that is the message I been bringing and in what Joel Richardson and company has brought with their documentary of sheep among wolfs. That we shouldn't hate Islamic people because of the atrocities that Isis and Hamas do, but that their people, good people that don't represent this lot. Likewise with Jews. 

Sheep among wolfs is worth seeing, as how despite Iran is enemy of Israel there's a people in Iran that are different then what you see in the news. 

 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

So your so close minded that everything that is Fox news is wrong. 

Yeah that is what wrong. Fox news says a lot of bad stuff that I don't agree likewise CNN, but there's some good stuff in both. But when hatred blinds you, everything is thrown out. 

And that is the message I been bringing and in what Joel Richardson and company has brought with their documentary of sheep among wolfs. That we shouldn't hate Islamic people because of the atrocities that Isis and Hamas do, but that their people, good people that don't represent this lot. Likewise with Jews. 

Sheep among wolfs is worth seeing, as how despite Iran is enemy of Israel there's a people in Iran that are different then what you see in the news. 

 

I find it extremely hard to believe a single word of information broadcasted by either Fox News or CNN in all honesty.

We've seen soo many ridiculous takes biased debates through both of those new outlets... I literally cannot stomach watching 5 minutes of either channel.

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