The TC 'Avram Grant OUT' Topic

[pluto 0]

I bloody hope thats the case because the thought of Grant still being in the job next season is just too painful to even think about.

Just watched it and it begs the question: If this season is anything to go by, what's Kenyon's definition of 'the next level'? He was waffling some rubbish about "building on the last 3 years" but how are we doing that with Grant exactly? We havent even built on last season yet: last season CC - this season losing out woefully; last season FA Cup - this season, well, the less said about that the better; last season, runners up in the league - this season, realistically we won't finish higher than 2nd and are more likely to finish in 3rd spot. So that leaves CL - if we don't win it, where exactly have we 'built' on anything?

The man blatantly talks shit.

God only knows but again Kenyon had to justify something you couldn't. You sack Mourinho and hire Grant. He was doing his masters bidding as was Buck and the only thing he could do was waffle about taking things to another level - and hoping the press didn't ask what that level was.

So far Grant has taken us to a new level alright - a lower one. He has not even won the same cups Mourinho did last year. Okay he could win the CL and league but that is a hell of a big if.

If the scenario you paint above pans out I would love to hear Kenyon being asked how he feels Grant has done moving Chelsea to a new level.

What I sense Kenyon, Buck and Roman are fervently hoping is that Grant somehow flukes a cup which will prove how right they were to appoint him and ditch Jose.

It wont at all but it will merely cover up Grant's ultimate failings in my view.

Edited March 15, 2008 by pluto

[Laylabelle 9,411]

Thing is,we're 3 behind Arsenal.We win weds and Sunday we can go above and finish second...even if we dont win anything,still might stay :S.Hopfully this just be a tempory lol and summer can start looking sensibly!!

Kenyon pah Man you fan!Prob loving it.And next level?Whats that?Loosing the CC,knocked out the FA cup and no win yet over the top 4..(hofpully this will change Sunday but doubt it) wtf he on about lol

[Elliott 7]

How are we but 3 points off the top with this man in charge?

[Laylabelle 9,411]

No body knows lol.Didnt even really realise till yesterday how bloody close we are and dont think anyone else did either.

Guess its because they've messed up as well lol...a mystery

Lets hope Grant doesnt mess it up now but how the hell are we lol.Weeks ago we were like 8 behind and now poof

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

How are we but 3 points off the top with this man in charge?

The phrase.... " Falling in shite and come up smelling of roses " springs to mind.

Its Arsenals demise of late has us in this position. Dropping numerous points in their last 4 games is giving us an unrealistic carrot dangling in front of us.

If we were in this position under someone who the fans had more belief in then maybe I would be really excited at the run in. But in truth I'm just waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under us once more.

[Ollie 4,400]

how are we so close to top? it doesnt matter who is in charge, a retard could guide that team to the top 4. Look at the squad, regardless who's in charge, we have the best squad in the league.

Edited March 16, 2008 by OllieCFC

[misschief 24]

we have the best squad in the league.

You honestly think so?

[Ollie 4,400]

i know so. When Man Utd have Ronaldo & Rooney out, they struggle. All the games that they have lost this season have been without either 1 of those 2 or both.

Arsenal are the same without Fabregas and Adebayor, they dont play great without them.

Liverpool are all about Gerrard and Torres.

Now with us its different. We have cover everywhere and it was shown around christmas time and during the african nations cup. No matter who played for us, we won and we had a good team out.

Edited March 16, 2008 by OllieCFC

[Badboy 1,526]

We do have the strongest squad in the league.

[Ollie 4,400]

ive modified my post explaining a bit of why i believe that. now we just need a manager who can use them properly.

[misschief 24]

i know so. When Man Utd have Ronaldo & Rooney out, they struggle. All the games that they have lost this season have been without either 1 of those 2 or both.

Arsenal are the same without Fabregas and Adebayor, they dont play great without them.

Liverpool are all about Gerrard and Torres.

Now with us its different. We have cover everywhere and it was shown around christmas time and during the african nations cup. No matter who played for us, we won and we had a good team out.

Yeah fair points, wasnt having a dig or anything, was just wondering. On Utd though, I know Ronaldo's goals have been important for them but I'd say Rooney's their key man really.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I would say United's squad is stronger, we just have a quality player to replace another quality player, ie. Makelele in for Essien, Mikel for Lampard, Alex for Terry. Anelka for Drogba and so on.

[Elliott 7]

I don't get what you mean Blue Lion. Do you mean their first 11 is stronger? I might be inclined to agree. But if you say their squad is stronger, that suggests they have better backups than we do.

[Ollie 4,400]

Well theres no way they have a stronger squad. They probably have a better first XI because they all know what they are doing, what their roles are and where they're playing. I still dont think we know our best first team yet but i believe they do. Squad wise tho, injuries/absentees dont hurt us as much as it hurts the rest.

[Laylabelle 9,411]

Agree.Man you lost Rooney for a bit and went on a poor run.If Liverpool loose Torres or Gerrard thats it really.Arsenal are just weird lol.If thingy had gone to acn then they'd been in trouble me thinks

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I don't get what you mean Blue Lion. Do you mean their first 11 is stronger? I might be inclined to agree. But if you say their squad is stronger, that suggests they have better backups than we do.

Sorry, it was poorly-worded. I meant they have a stronger starting eleven, but take players like Rooney and Ronaldo our of their team and they struggle more than us.

[changingman2000 35]

Who'd have guessed it eh? another big game we couldnt win, three goals conceded from set pieces, stupid fucking substutions.

Hope your happy at least Roman

Our plight becomes more embarrasing with every passing day with this cunt in the chair.

[Laylabelle 9,411]

WTF did he take Joe Cole off?!Our best player and he took him off?!

Arg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Could've got another if he hadnt done that arg!!!!

We'll be lucky to get 3rd at this rate.Seriously Liverpool only 6 behind.They win Sunday,we loose 3 behind.Looks less comfy suddenly

FFS!