Patrick Bamford

[lionsden 4,689]

If he can't force his way in ahead of Wickham and Campbell (two painfully averages strikers) then he won't make it here and won't deserve too either.

If he's a good as we hope he will be/is he will e above those clowns from minute one.

You are completely missing the point and looking at it from the wrong angle. For a striker to impress, they need genuine chances and run of games which he won't likely get at palace and even if he manages to score or impress in the extremely rare opportunity he will likely get, it won't be sufficient to help his status on the pecking order and pardew has no reason whatsoever to play him either.

The purpose of loan in this scenario is to develop a player and that can only come from constant /regular playing time. Our focus and responsibility as the parent club should have been to find him a team where his chances of getting regular playing time which is crucial for his development is maximised rather than some unicorn "displace 4 permanent competition to prove your worth" egolistical challenge.

Bottline is the club didn't have bamford's interest at heart with this loan.

[lionsden 4,689]

You can't really break through as loan player, though, unless there's an option to buy. Managers always prefer the players they have around for the long term.

Exactly. The only way I see him getting any meaningful game time regardless of his form is if palace find themselves in a desperate situation and have no choice but to play him like injury crisis or something. I can't remember a loan player that had toncontend with 4 or more competition for places and still managed to ammass decent gane time. I dont care what anyone says this was a dumb loan move from the start.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Good start. Hope he could maintain his performance level.

[Tomo 21,751]

You are completely missing the point and looking at it from the wrong angle. For a striker to impress, they need genuine chances and run of games which he won't likely get at palace and even if he manages to score or impress in the extremely rare opportunity he will likely get, it won't be sufficient to help his status on the pecking order and pardew has no reason whatsoever to play him either.

The purpose of loan in this scenario is to develop a player and that can only come from constant /regular playing time. Our focus and responsibility as the parent club should have been to find him a team where his chances of getting regular playing time which is crucial for his development is maximised rather than some unicorn "displace 4 permanent competition to prove your worth" egolistical challenge.

Bottline is the club didn't have bamford's interest at heart with this loan.

Off the top of my head Sturridge at Bolton for in with competition from Davies, Elmander and a couple of others, you may say there average but there no worse than what Bamfords competing with. Wilshire at the Same club, Welbeck at Sunderland got significant game time despite Bent and Gyan being his competitors.

I believe Bamfords got a serious chance of being a regular there.

[Stats 7,142]

Off the top of my head Sturridge at Bolton for in with competition from Davies, Elmander and a couple of others, you may say there average but there no worse than what Bamfords competing with. Wilshire at the Same club, Welbeck at Sunderland got significant game time despite Bent and Gyan being his competitors.

I believe Bamfords got a serious chance of being a regular there.

He definitely has a serious chance of being a regular there but he will have to score. If he goes on for 2 games without scoring he might lose his place just like that. Look at Sanogo. Easy to say he is an awful striker but Wenger said last season when he loaned him out that he wants him to go a prem team. He started their first couple games I think then after when he failed to score all his appearances were off the bench. But Bamford is a natural goalscorer. This is the prem though so will be interesting to see how he develops but one thing I am sure on is that unless he is scoring on a consistent basis he will be rotated regularly. Hopefully he has enough starts and goals for the loan to prove a successful one.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

You seriously comparing that donkey Sanogo to Bamford?

[Stats 7,142]

You seriously comparing that donkey Sanogo to Bamford?

No, but the situations are similar. Sanogo was sent on loan there because Wenger thought he would be a regular. Because there other strikers were so bad before Glenn Murray returned from his loan at Reading, he was put straight in the team but then after struggling for the first couple matches he never regained his place in the team. Hopefully Bamford scores down there but this is the Prem and he is competing with several strikers there. It is easy to say he is better than all of them but he does not have prem experience and it will not be a simple case like Lukaku of being guaranteed a start in his loans. He will need to work for it and right now if Murray stays (has been linked with Bournemouth) he might start of as the no.1 striker because of his form for Palace towards the end of last season. Anyway, if Bamford is good enough to make it here he will score goals down there and then we should have nothing to worry about with how much starts he gets at Palace.

[The Mak 4,459]

Probably should've went to Bournemouth or Norwich. It sucks, because if we have a bad time with our strikers this season and Bamford was to do really well, the natural process would be to have him in the squad next year. I don't think that will happen now, I don't think Pardew will give him a proper chance. I fucking hate it when our players are signed for squad depth and nothing more.

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/03/connor-wickham-signs-crystal-palace-sunderland?CMP=share_btn_tw

Wickham has officially joined Crystal Palace...

[BlueLion. 21,491]

But Dwight Gayle is going on loan to Fulham. Pardew clearly rates Patch or he wouldn't be letting Gayle leave, simple as that.

[zolayes 14,489]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/03/connor-wickham-signs-crystal-palace-sunderland?CMP=share_btn_tw

Wickham has officially joined Crystal Palace...

Expect Wickham to get 3 starts then benched

[Jase 43,479]

Bamford starts on the bench as Crystal Palace take on Norwich at Carrow Road.

[Stats 7,142]

Although very early in the season, I am already starting to have my doubts about this loan. He just is not going to get enough starts. He is effectively 3rd choice striker there. Murray looks like he will stay although there still might be movement. He started the game against Bournemouth. Now Wickham, I think will get the nod for the game against Arsenal because of his physical appearance. Pardew, today referred to Chamakh as a player who will be like a new signing if they can get him fit. It is just not going to be a club where he will be able to get consecutive starts. Even if he does start one game, he could easily be rotated the next. He didn't even come on against Norwich which shows the strength in depth they have. For Palace, it is exellent. For us and Bamford is it going to be worth it? Not sure. Think there are other PL teams which would have been more suitable. Sunderland, maybe Norwich, maybe WBA. I hope I am proved wrong but like I was saying before, he will not easily get in that Palace team. Especially now they have bought Wickham for £9m.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

Although very early in the season, I am already starting to have my doubts about this loan. He just is not going to get enough starts. He is effectively 3rd choice striker there. Murray looks like he will stay although there still might be movement. He started the game against Bournemouth. Now Wickham, I think will get the nod for the game against Arsenal because of his physical appearance. Pardew, today referred to Chamakh as a player who will be like a new signing if they can get him fit. It is just not going to be a club where he will be able to get consecutive starts. Even if he does start one game, he could easily be rotated the next. He didn't even come on against Norwich which shows the strength in depth they have. For Palace, it is exellent. For us and Bamford is it going to be worth it? Not sure. Think there are other PL teams which would have been more suitable. Sunderland, maybe Norwich, maybe WBA. I hope I am proved wrong but like I was saying before, he will not easily get in that Palace team. Especially now they have bought Wickham for £9m.

Nobody sad it would be easy. It's perfectly normal that managers pferer their own players, but if Bamford is that good he will earn his place. If he can't outpower Murray and Wickham then he shouldn't come back to Chelsea. Costa, Falcao and Rémy are a different category.

[the wes 7,212]

Nobody sad it would be easy. It's perfectly normal that managers pferer their own players, but if Bamford is that good he will earn his place. If he can't outpower Murray and Wickham then he shouldn't come back to Chelsea. Costa, Falcao and Rémy are a different category.

i agree with this