Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Could see him debuting against Leeds if we are well in control in that game. Would also like to see Clifford make his debut in that game if the opportunity arises.TBF from some of the u21 games i saw from last season Bamford actually looked better then Lukaku in those games. Lukaku was actually struggling against u21 players.Lukaku is the better athlete without a doubt and yeah i would agree they are not comparable atm. But to Bamford credit his skill set as a striker is much more polished and he has a much better first touch(a very underrated skill) and he plays with so much awareness + intelligence.Would like to see him sent out to a Championship side in January.I think Lukaku had a reality check in those games against u-21 players. He was basically a talented young striker, starting to establish himself in Belgium at club and international level..and then he joins Chelsea..and within a few weeks, he gets dumped into the reserves.I'm glad he's learning and making mistakes as a West Brom player.For Bamford, a Championship or even League one loan spell if he's guaranteed first team football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 He may be doing decent in the reserves but that is minimal to suggets he should be in the first team. He isnt ready at all, still needs experience and maybe a loan to even get anywhere near our first team. U21s is a different standard compared to what our first team plays and would struggle. Remember, he only made 1 appearance at Forest IIRC, despite ripping it up for the youth team. Also Lukaku is in another league to Bamford, hardly comparable. Lukaku is stronger, faster, better in the air, well to cut a long story short, an all round better striker than Bamford. Bamford is nowhere near the ability of Lukaku and he is at the right place so far and maybe in January a loan will be considered if not next seasonI'm well aware he is not ready, and I'm not saying he should be a starter, just that he should have been given a chance like Lukaku had in preseason or in one of the Capital One matches. He's been one of our best reserve players and even more consistent than Piazon (granted Piazon is 2 years younger).As for the comparison with Lukaku, Romelu is physically superior to Bamford, and most of the strikers in the PL for that matter, but technically, Patrick is much much better. Bamford has better movement, passing abilities, and is 10 times the finisher that Lukaku is. So no, I would not say that Romelu is a better all around striker. I'm just saying that if it were the other way around in term of price tags, Bamford would be the one loaned to WBA, which is unfair to the boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't get all the hype surrounding Bamford. He seems like an average striker, will probably end up playing Championship level football in 2-3 years.The striker we should of kept was Borini, that kid just looked a class above the reserves and he seemed to be a pretty handy finisher.Borini wanted to leave and looks nothing special at all at Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm well aware he is not ready, and I'm not saying he should be a starter, just that he should have been given a chance like Lukaku had in preseason or in one of the Capital One matches. He's been one of our best reserve players and even more consistent than Piazon (granted Piazon is 2 years younger).As for the comparison with Lukaku, Romelu is physically superior to Bamford, and most of the strikers in the PL for that matter, but technically, Patrick is much much better. Bamford has better movement, passing abilities, and is 10 times the finisher that Lukaku is. So no, I would not say that Romelu is a better all around striker.I'm just saying that if it were the other way around in term of price tags, Bamford would be the one loaned to WBA, which is unfair to the boy.How would you know that Bamford is "10 times the finisher that Lukaku is"?....Bamford's only ever played in the reserve or youth teams.There are plenty of young strikers who score goals for fun in the youth or reserve set up...but most of them end up getting sold for a minimal fee to a lower level club or released on a free transfer.As for the price-tag comparison, Lukaku has the ability to be a class talent and a starting forward for most EPL sides. Bamford is just a homegrown kid, he'll either make the bench at Chelsea OR he'll be playing Championship level football in his mid 20's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 You realise when Lukaku was playing reserves last season, he was often the best player on the pitch and got loads of goals too........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 How would you know that Bamford is "10 times the finisher that Lukaku is"?....Bamford's only ever played in the reserve or youth teams.There are plenty of young strikers who score goals for fun in the youth or reserve set up...but most of them end up getting sold for a minimal fee to a lower level club or released on a free transfer.As for the price-tag comparison, Lukaku has the ability to be a class talent and a starting forward for most EPL sides. Bamford is just a homegrown kid, he'll either make the bench at Chelsea OR he'll be playing Championship level football in his mid 20's.A good finisher is a good finisher, doesn't matter if he plays reserve. Whether he can be a good finisher in the PL, we will need to give him a chance to find out.As for being homegrown, by that logic, JT should have played championship football in his mid 20s as well..You realise when Lukaku was playing reserves last season, he was often the best player on the pitch and got loads of goals too...........No I don't. Mainly because whenever I watched him with the reserves he was average and didn't manage to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 A good finisher is a good finisher, doesn't matter if he plays reserve. Whether he can be a good finisher in the PL, we will need to give him a chance to find out.As for being homegrown, by that logic, JT should have played championship football in his mid 20s as well..No I don't. Mainly because whenever I watched him with the reserves he was average and didn't manage to score.Lukaku played 9 games for the reserves last season and scored 7 goals with 2 assists. His finishing, touch etc looked good in reserves and he often excelled playing at that level, but now looks below par in the league. Completely different environment playing in a Premier League match compared to reserves, much more pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Loaned to MK Dons until 7th January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Perfect club for Bamford assuming he gets games!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Meh. Would have preferred to see him being loaned out to a Championship club but at least he will be getting game time in proper competitive games now. Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 http://t.co/KhoGEXuK Patrick Bamford goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 His loan kind of went under the radar due to the events that were going on. But I have to ask, is there really that much difference between the U21s and League one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 His loan kind of went under the radar due to the events that were going on. But I have to ask, is there really that much difference between the U21s and League one?Huge difference, this is a professional league.So the players aren't quite Premiership standard, but they work hard and tackle hard... Watch some games, it's mostly physical stuff which is great for him, will develop his strength and balance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Reminds me of Flo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Patrick has won a penalty and assisted (it's HT now), MK Dons are leading 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 chelsea youth scout @chelseaythteam In his debut for Mk Dons. @Patrick_Bamford assisted 3 goals and won a penalty,he was replaced in the 70th minute of the game.#impressiveImpressive indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Wow talk about a great debut 3 assists and a penalty won not bad patrick not bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 He was compared to Robbie Fowler allot at Nottingham Forest.He was said to be one of the best, if not THE best young English forwards at youth level.I was worried he'd be completely ruined here. Hopefully he does well.He scored like, 11 goals in 2 games or something at one point last season which had people believing he was some amazing finisher - he's not. It's just that he creates loads of chances for himself and therefore has to put away some of those shots!3 assists is a great way to make your debut. I'm sure he'll be amongst the best players in the league this season if he stays there. Next season he should be loaned to a Championship side for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 MK Dons manager compared him with a young Torres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Anyone know if he won MOTM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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