bouletje 82 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Didn't work the system at all you say? In what way would he not be able to fulfill cesc's role? I fail to see that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is what I'm concerned about. Would be terrible if he ended up at City especially.Say City get Sterling and KdB who they've been heavily linked with. Those two playing off of Silva, Yaya, and Agüero would be devastating.So im guessing that would look something like this. -----------Fernandinho--------Yaya----------Sterling-------------KDB----------------Silva-------------------------Aguero-------------------Looks great on paper but the phrase too many cooks come to mind, they might drum up a few fancy scorelines but off the ball that lineup will struggle and team balance is vital especially in a league campaign whether the purists like it or not. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Dont worry he wont move to city. Bayern bid got rejected by wolfsburg and they will reject city too.And wolfsburg super boss Winterkorn is in the board of Bayern. So if he moves, he will move him to bayern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 So im guessing that would look something like this. -----------Fernandinho--------Yaya----------Sterling-------------KDB----------------Silva-------------------------Aguero-------------------Looks great on paper but the phrase too many cooks come to mind, they might drum up a few fancy scorelines but off the ball that lineup will struggle and team balance is vital especially in a league campaign whether the purists like it or not.I was thinking Silva at #10 with Kevin on the right and Sterling on the left.Attacking wise that would be ridiculous but then attack and goal scoring isn't their issue I guess. Yaya & Fernandinho clearly doesn't work.Still, don't want to see De Bruyne there. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I was thinking Silva at #10 with Kevin on the right and Sterling on the left.Attacking wise that would be ridiculous but then attack and goal scoring isn't their issue I guess. Yaya & Fernandinho clearly doesn't work.Still, don't want to see De Bruyne there.Until City fix up their central midfield issues, it doesn't matter if they buy KDB, Sterling or any other attacking mid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 So im guessing that would look something like this.-----------Fernandinho--------Yaya----------Sterling-------------KDB----------------Silva-------------------------Aguero-------------------Looks great on paper but the phrase too many cooks come to mind, they might drum up a few fancy scorelines but off the ball that lineup will struggle and team balance is vital especially in a league campaign whether the purists like it or not.Even their current lineup has struggled for balance, always giving chances to opponents to score against them. Of the five in midfield you named there, only 1 or maybe 2 will/can defend. The rest won't even bother a jot. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeholiday 209 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 My fav non-Chelsea Player. I was crushed when he was sold, and i was one of his biggest fans goin on and on about how amazing he was going to be once he returned from his Werder Bremen Loan spell. But somehow, i know he wasn't gonna last here, it was too good to be true that a young player who was taking his chances either here or via loan was gonna be trusted, especially once JM came.Players like Romeu, Sturridge, and then KDB, all players i had gotten so giddy about, and all of them were sold/loaned EVEN after killing it when they were given opportunities. Now back to KDB, he is a fantastic talent, always knew he was gonna be something special. There's no need for all the "ginger cunt" posts imo. it didn't work out, and that's that. what? Why would any professional want to waste time and effort proving himself to JM (again) like he's a youth squad prospect? He's the Star for Wolfsburg, the #2 team in Bundesliga, just set the record for Assists in campaign...but no, proving himself to JM and the Chelsea faithful should be first on his mind. I'm assuming 'something is already wrong' with Lampard, and Ashley Cole as they schemed to sabotage AVB's tenure here. Clearly, not wanting to perform for him while he was here.How does he know he wont start? How do YOU know he wont start? All chelsea fans know that one of the 3 midfielders behind the CF is up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 rubbish eh? he didnt work with the system at all and as you said was in a fight with mourinho over training etc.He looked out of place and it wasnt working.You clearly didnt watch the preseason games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 You clearly didnt watch the preseason games.I clearly did....but it proves that people shouldnt take pre season that seriously as its mainly about getting players back up to speed with their fitness levels and not about how they look when the team is playing at about 50-75% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I clearly did....but it proves that people shouldnt take pre season that seriously as its mainly about getting players back up to speed with their fitness levels and not about how they look when the team is playing at about 50-75%The debate wasn't about fitness levels. Your point was about 'fitting in the system'. Preseason illustratie he did fit in imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The debate wasn't about fitness levels. Your point was about 'fitting in the system'. Preseason illustratie he did fit in imo.and in my opinion you cannot tell whether some one seriously fits in until proper matches are played hence thats why I mentioned that pre season are only played at 50 - 75% i.e more time on the ball, not so much pressure, less tackles etc etc. Even Lukaku looked good in the same pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Are we really still going on about that one statement? Goodness...We have no idea what happened between Jose and Kevin so we can't fully judge but regardless it was a bit unprofessional and childish from Kevin to give that answer publicly. He should have just said "I don't know" as the media and PR trainers tell him to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 and in my opinion you cannot tell whether some one seriously fits in until proper matches are played hence thats why I mentioned that pre season are only played at 50 - 75% i.e more time on the ball, not so much pressure, less tackles etc etc. Even Lukaku looked good in the same pre seasonWell, you cannot claim one did NOT fit in according to your own logic. Which is what you did in your original statement. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Well, you cannot claim one did NOT fit in according to your own logic. Which is what you did in your original statement.said he looked out of place........look at Swindon game for example.However if your logic is that if players like kdb look great in pre season then that means they fit in...so be it.Obviously the coaches and manager deemed to differ once the season got into full swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 said he looked out of place........look at Swindon game for example.However if your logic is that if players like kdb look great in pre season then that means they fit in...so be it.Obviously the coaches and manager deemed to differ once the season got into full swingYou said literally: "he didnt work with the system at all"Which is a pretty bold statement to make after a good preseason and very few competition games (in which he was out form like any player would be). Now go pick a fight with someone else. You seem keen on it. zolayes and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 You are the one picking a fight....bold statement backed up by the manager.Luxury players like him and Mata did not fit in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 You are the one picking a fight....bold statement backed up by the manager.Luxury players like him and Mata did not fit inSo much interpretation. He could just have had a row with Mou, which is far more likely. Your statement is in no way backed by the manager. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Even their current lineup has struggled for balance, always giving chances to opponents to score against them. Of the five in midfield you named there, only 1 or maybe 2 will/can defend. The rest won't even bother a jot.Any idea where you can find info on clean sheet records? They only conceded 6 more goals than Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Any idea where you can find info on clean sheet records? They only conceded 6 more goals than Chelsea.This season only or including previous ones as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 This season only or including previous ones as well?14/15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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