dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well, Terry and AVB claimed the issue was over because Terry and Ferdinand had a chat after the match. That doesn't jibe with the fact that the FA has opened an investigation with QPR's request. Either Ferdinand didn't agree about the chat and requested an inquiry OR QPR and/or the FA are going ahead with the investigation despite Ferdinand's non-cooperation. This is serious stuff. I'd like to think Terry would not racially abuse someone. Obviously because I wouldn't want to support a player of questionable racial sensitivity. But even if he and I disagreed on the subject matter, I'd like to think he's not stupid enough to spout racial nonsense in a PL match under white hot glare. Please tell me players nowadays know better?In any case aside from the thorny morality issues, this is going to hang over the club until a resolution is reached. Fail to get a result against Arsenal and it will be a very slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Punish Chelsea and not the "Referre".Don't conflate the referee's performance with the issue that Terry is being investigated for racist abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Except that he wasn't being racist. Ridiculous that this is even an issue. Cole was right next to him when he said whatever he said, ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well, Terry and AVB claimed the issue was over because Terry and Ferdinand had a chat after the match. That doesn't jibe with the fact that the FA has opened an investigation with QPR's request. Either Ferdinand didn't agree about the chat and requested an inquiry OR QPR and/or the FA are going ahead with the investigation despite Ferdinand's non-cooperation.This is serious stuff. I'd like to think Terry would not racially abuse someone. Obviously because I wouldn't want to support a player of questionable racial sensitivity. But even if he and I disagreed on the subject matter, I'd like to think he's not stupid enough to spout racial nonsense in a PL match under white hot glare. Please tell me players nowadays know better?In any case aside from the thorny morality issues, this is going to hang over the club until a resolution is reached. Fail to get a result against Arsenal and it will be a very slippery slope.But why should there be any doubt? If anything was said it was obviously in the heat of the moment...the man is after all, good friends with Drogba,Cole,Essien,etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lentherussian 86 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i heard he was actually shouting ''blind cunt'' at the ref. which ive seen the vid and it looks that way to me. If thats true, hes right on both shouts. Think when it all blows over he deserves an apology from the media for implying it any other way. Yet another media witch hunt aimed at jt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 What exactly is so ridiculous?Playing a racism card is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 To clarify Terry is absolutely innocent until proven otherwise in my eyes. I may have not written my post better because it was about possible 'whys' and such since an official investigation has been launched. If the FA can not find definitely against Terry, he should be cleared and be left in good standing. So that's that. Sorry to say that he has lots of black friends and teammates reasoning isn't always airtight. Let's take Terry out of this just to make sure I'm not impugning him unfairly.So speaking generally, a person can say something in the heat of the moment that he may take care to not say around co-workers. Luis Aragones who disparaged Thierry Henry racially had black ex-players who stood up for the old coach and said he was like a father to them. Yet, he was 100% caught on camera describing Henry in a very crude and cringeworthy term. We're human, we are capable of contradictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Playing a racism card is pathetic.Elaborate, from which side are you speaking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Elaborate, from which side are you speaking of?Falsely accusing someone being racist is just as bad as racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Falsely accusing someone being racist is just as bad as racism.Agreed.It's not racist, if it was said. It is offensive though. But if QPR are reporting it, without Anton Ferdinand even confirming what was said, then you're very right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Don't conflate the referee's performance with the issue that Terry is being investigated for racist abuse.I'm talking about this:Chelsea and AVB hit with FA charge over QPR matchnot about Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Agreed.It's not racist, if it was said. It is offensive though. But if QPR are reporting it, without Anton Ferdinand even confirming what was said, then you're very right.Why aren't they reporting their own fans who enjoyed abusing JT's parents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Why aren't they reporting their own fans who enjoyed abusing JT's parents?They're all classless alike, that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm talking about this:Chelsea and AVB hit with FA charge over QPR matchnot about Terry.Okay, got ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets.By Chelsea fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stan Collymore & Jason Roberts are being racially abused on Twitter atm, on the back of this Terry-Ferdinand issue.Absolutely disgusting some of these tweets.Collymore with his record should never be on radio or tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 By Chelsea fans?I wouldn't be shocked if it was mate after what i heard at the Chelsea v Wigan match at the DW stadium i think it was in 2008. Avram grant was subject to Gas chamber noises it was vile and it shocked me at how many people were doing it. I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I don't think Terry said anything like what they are portraying. He probably agreed with Ferdinand sarcastically that he did say black whatever. I doubt he would say it in a direct context because Ashley is really sensitive about these things, i remember against Spain when he was the most effected by the monkey chants even though SWP was the main attraction for those chants. Ashley kept giving the ball away as soon as he heard the chants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Now supposedly Ferdinand said "I need to hear the truth for myself about what happened on the pitch". WTF does that mean? Did he hear it or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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