Gary Cahill

[Tomo 21,733]

41 minutes ago, Jason said:

Think you can say that about a lot of our players. Maybe things in football have really changed but there's hardly much emotional connection with the players (except Azpi, Kante according to what I've seen from fans on Twitter) these days, like we had with the last batch of players.

Tbf, it took a while for the fans to take to the last bunch JT aside.

If say Courtois ends up staying for the next 10 years his "flirting" with with Real would be forgotten, just like Drogba saying it's broken at Chelsea is.

[DDA 9,689]

11 hours ago, Unionjack said:

I hate knocking our lads when theyve lost their edge and the times come to say ta ra to them but we got to be cruel to be kind. And have to do whats best for the team. We do tend to keep some lads well past their best. Whether its thru being loyal to them or just dont have the balls to drop them I dunno.

But hes got to that stage here hes got to do one.

Its strange. Hes been with us what 7 years? and I dont have any emotions about him. But have got to give him some credit cause whem I look back at his Youtubes I remember hes had some good times with us.

This is exactly how I feel about Cahill. Those 7 years have flown by.

[Unionjack 7,531]

11 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Still can’t believe he’s actually our captain. Possibly the worst captain in the PL era. 

Its rime Dave took it for good now. I hope it doesn't deag on too long even if hes not been too bad this last 3 games.

.I bet he gives good game speaches tho.What I do like about him is that British bulldog spirit that many players now just dont have. Hes what I always thought was a Chelsea player He was Big, quite fast and wasn't worried about getting stuck in. If I could bottle some of his spirit and attitude I'd feed it to the team every match day.

[OneMoSalah 8,797]

On 27/04/2018 at 11:11 PM, The Skipper said:

Still can’t believe he’s actually our captain. Possibly the worst captain in the PL era. 

Not going to lie I think that is a ludicrous statement to make. Fair enough he is not the best defender or player at the club or anything but in terms of having an English club with a homegrown captain, his longevity of being here and experience it was so obvious he'd replace Terry and become captain and to say otherwise would be daft. I'd like to have seen Azpi be captain fair enough because he is a top top player and undoubtedly a top notch bloke but in all fairness I am not surprised one bit that it was Gaz. Even Jose Mourinho said he could be a future Chelsea captain when he was here a few years back. 

His performances have been alright in the last few games as well considering how poor he was earlier in the season (which is frightening considering how well he played last year) but not many people have mentioned that. Christensen was taken out of the firing line after a few poor games and with that injury scare, its probably been a wise move in general by Conte. Overall if this is to be his last season here (I'd imagine he'll be near the top end of the list of possibilities to leave, especially if Zouma is to come back and be reintegrated in the squad next season) he's been a pretty good value for money signing, 7m pounds from a piss poor team, although hes had a pretty decent spell here. Wouldn't say hes anywhere near the worst captain in PL era though that is a bit ridiculous. 

[The Skipper 20,593]

11 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Not going to lie I think that is a ludicrous statement to make. Fair enough he is not the best defender or player at the club or anything but in terms of having an English club with a homegrown captain, his longevity of being here and experience it was so obvious he'd replace Terry and become captain and to say otherwise would be daft. I'd like to have seen Azpi be captain fair enough because he is a top top player and undoubtedly a top notch bloke but in all fairness I am not surprised one bit that it was Gaz. Even Jose Mourinho said he could be a future Chelsea captain when he was here a few years back. 

His performances have been alright in the last few games as well considering how poor he was earlier in the season (which is frightening considering how well he played last year) but not many people have mentioned that. Christensen was taken out of the firing line after a few poor games and with that injury scare, its probably been a wise move in general by Conte. Overall if this is to be his last season here (I'd imagine he'll be near the top end of the list of possibilities to leave, especially if Zouma is to come back and be reintegrated in the squad next season) he's been a pretty good value for money signing, 7m pounds from a piss poor team, although hes had a pretty decent spell here. Wouldn't say hes anywhere near the worst captain in PL era though that is a bit ridiculous. 

Worst Chelsea captain in the PL era. I’m talking about his leadership/captaincy ability not his ability overall as a player. 

Edit:

To clarify even further, here’s our list of captains in the PL era:

- Dennis Wise

- Marcel Desailly

- John Terry

- Gary Cahill

Now is what I said ludicrous?

[manpe 10,861]

Meh, I think he's done very well since coming back into the side.  Played 5 in a row - 1 draw and 4 wins. His inclusion has coincided with our rise in form. Been solid at the back so far, more reliable than AC lately, can't complain with his current form. Plays based on merit. Good move by Conte.

[Unionjack 7,531]

13 minutes ago, manpe said:

Meh, I think he's done very well since coming back into the side.  Played 5 in a row - 1 draw and 4 wins. His inclusion has coincided with our rise in form. Been solid at the back so far, more reliable than AC lately, can't complain with his current form. Plays based on merit. Good move by Conte.

The amount of times his passes went wide or to the opposition was bad. And he continually just passes sideways. Probably because he realizes hes a bad passer.

I only wanted to keep Bane to use him like a US Football special team to bring him on for when we take corners and thats about how I feek about Cahill.

A couple of OK games doesnt make up for a bad season. Or we would still have Torres.

[manpe 10,861]

8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

A couple of OK games doesnt make up for a bad season.

Does this then mean he should not play a small ending portion of the season even if it benefits the team like it clearly has? I swear some people on here just have blind hatred towards him, even after his good games people come on here to bash him. And him passing sideways is a factor when he's been much more solid defensively, his main job? It's not like AC is an adventurous passer himself, he mainly passes sideways as well while being a defensive liability.

[Unionjack 7,531]

9 minutes ago, manpe said:

Does this then mean he should not play a small ending portion of the season even if it benefits the team like it clearly has? I swear some people on here just have blind hatred towards him, even after his good games people come on here to bash him. And him passing sideways is a factor when he's been much more solid defensively, his main job? It's not like AC is an adventurous passer himself, he mainly passes sideways as well while being a defensive liability.

Never have I once bashed him or have any hatred towards him. I just dont think hes good enough for the team any more. And yes AC needs work there too.

We have a big need for creativity in defence.

[OneMoSalah 8,797]

5 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Worst Chelsea captain in the PL era. I’m talking about his leadership/captaincy ability not his ability overall as a player. 

Edit:

To clarify even further, here’s our list of captains in the PL era:

- Dennis Wise

- Marcel Desailly

- John Terry

- Gary Cahill

Now is what I said ludicrous?

Tbf I thought you meant in the PL in general but even then for Chelsea as a team with the players we've had in those roles, that list is impressive and it means that for any captain it is pretty difficult to compete when you look back at that (especially Terry purely on his rise along with the clubs in terms of becoming a serial winner). Maybe then.. "worst" Chelsea captain in the PL era but Azpi would also be the same if you compare him to those names lets not even start to say otherwise.

There are worst captains at other PL teams anyway, so not sure what the fuss is, I mean imagine for instance, Jordan Henderson was running around captaining us or some other daft player who lacks experience in leading, winning trophies and even just that huge winning mentality that many of our players have had in the last 20 years? I know Cahill isn't the most popular player among fans but is there any point in pointing all these things out? Just seems a bit needless when as you have done, you break it down and point out the likes of Wise, Desailly, Terry all being captain before him.

Poor leadership skills? Lets not forget he was basically captain last season considering how irregularly Terry featured and everybody seemed to respect that, fair enough Terry has always had a heavy influence off the field as well but you cannot say that Terry was captaining the side from the bench, the majority of the games Cahill had the armband he did more than a good enough job last season and that sort of responsibility seemed to elevate his performances, which is a shame that it hasn't done so this year but not a lot has gone right. I like Azpi as much as anybody else but I think it was obvious after Ivanovic left in January that Gaz would become vice captain and take over from Terry whenever he would depart. Its completely right that Azpi has gotten that recognition among the squad and manager to be named vice captain, absolutely, and if he had arrived a year or two earlier he'd probably be the main captain. 

 

5 hours ago, manpe said:

Meh, I think he's done very well since coming back into the side.  Played 5 in a row - 1 draw and 4 wins. His inclusion has coincided with our rise in form. Been solid at the back so far, more reliable than AC lately, can't complain with his current form. Plays based on merit. Good move by Conte.

Agree completley. Christensen is a top talent and had some very good moments this season but I think he had a wobble in a few games in a row and that affected him and us as a team. Not exactly been a great season by Gaz all the way through but hes been solid in the last 4 games or so I'd say. Hes just one of those players who is always going to have to do more to impress than others because people seem to have a big dislike towards him because hes not as good as he once was or isn't as good as somebody else (hes not the only guy in the squad who has this happening to him either and wont be the last) but if he can come in do the job required then doesn't bother me one bit.

 

[Tomo 21,733]

Im far from a Cahill fanboy but the criticism of him is slowly creeping into the criticism for the sake of it territory. As already been noted he has been quite good since he's come back in.

[DDA 9,689]

7 hours ago, Tomo said:

Im far from a Cahill fanboy but the criticism of him is slowly creeping into the criticism for the sake of it territory. As already been noted he has been quite good since he's come back in.

He plays well for a patch then makes a schoolboy error which makes you want to bang your head against a brick wall. I think alot of his criticism is in comparison to JT. He will never fill those boots but he does a job I suppose.

[the wes 7,212]

Gary Cahill interview: I can feel some Chelsea fans think 'move him on' but I'm still hungry

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/04/gary-cahill-interview-can-feel-chelsea-fans-think-move-still/

[the wes 7,212]

On 29/04/2018 at 10:05 PM, Tomo said:

As already been noted he has been quite good since he's come back in.

The problem with cahill he's Inconsistent player when has a good game he's a decent player when he has a bad game he's an amateur player cahill time is up he needs to go in the summer

[Jase 43,479]

On 4/30/2018 at 0:17 PM, DDA said:

He plays well for a patch then makes a schoolboy error which makes you want to bang your head against a brick wall. I think alot of his criticism is in comparison to JT. He will never fill those boots but he does a job I suppose.

I don't think the criticism has gotta do with JT, especially once it became obvious he'll never get close to his level. A lot of the problem and criticism has gotta do with what you said in the first part there - he does a solid job for a patch before completely making a fool of himself with dumb errors. Plus, there's also the constant change in what we want from our CBs, in terms of buildup play, how we defend etc. In a system where we defend deep like we did under Mourinho and do under Conte, then Cahill is fine for it. But if we play higher up the pitch, focus on building from the back, then Cahill is not the person for it. 

[Jase 43,479]

10 hours ago, the wes said:

Gary Cahill interview: I can feel some Chelsea fans think 'move him on' but I'm still hungry

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/04/gary-cahill-interview-can-feel-chelsea-fans-think-move-still/

Cahill likes to talk about this insecurity, the need to prove people wrong all the time, doesn't he? It's good that he has something to drive him on but it's also rather annoying. No one would be talking about selling him if he actually did his job and performed well on a consistent basis. He alluded to the fact that the small amount we paid for him in 2012 may be a factor that fans remain unconvinced with him. I mean, really? We paid for a small fee for Azpi too but do fans genuinely want him out? Should be looking to him as an example as opposed to like blaming others for him not recognized as a great.

[manpe 10,861]

Another win under his captaincy after reclaiming his place in the team. Not a single loss and defence looks more solid than it has all season. Well done Gary for stepping up in a crucial time!

[The Skipper 20,593]

On 05/05/2018 at 9:06 AM, Jason said:

Cahill likes to talk about this insecurity, the need to prove people wrong all the time, doesn't he? It's good that he has something to drive him on but it's also rather annoying. No one would be talking about selling him if he actually did his job and performed well on a consistent basis. He alluded to the fact that the small amount we paid for him in 2012 may be a factor that fans remain unconvinced with him. I mean, really? We paid for a small fee for Azpi too but do fans genuinely want him out? Should be looking to him as an example as opposed to like blaming others for him not recognized as a great.

This is another example of what I mean when I say he is a shit captain.