🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Corners from him was woeful.

[G.B. 100]

Was invisible.

It's difficult to come up the pitch in a game like this and be good, mainly at his age. Accept that he is not 27 or 30 anymore.

[Clevemayer 764]

don't know if it was posted but kudos to Carragher *spit*, I had to say this:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2013/09/14/4261347/carragher-lampard-is-a-better-midfielder-than-scholes?ICID=CP_96

[Phil Driver 503]

So we must have scored 5 today and did not need a threat from midfield? Did anyone have a decent shot from outside the box? Mikel had one first half ,did I say decent?

Did anyone time a perfect run into the box to finish off our approach play? as well as recovering his position when not in possession.

One can only hope Jose has learned he was right in the first place on Lampard,resting him after a difficult week playing for England and with the champions league in mind is a luxury we are unable to afford,as today showed.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

don't know if it was posted but kudos to Carragher *spit*, I had to say this:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2013/09/14/4261347/carragher-lampard-is-a-better-midfielder-than-scholes?ICID=CP_96

He's only saying that because he's a scouser and Scholes played for united. Not to take anything from Lamps who had an incredible remark and his scoring record from midfield will never be matched, but Scholes is the complete midfielder. By far the best English player in a long long time, imho.

[zolayes 14,489]

He's only saying that because he's a scouser and Scholes played for united. Not to take anything from Lamps who had an incredible remark and his scoring record from midfield will never be matched, but Scholes is the complete midfielder. By far the best English player in a long long time, imho.

yes his tackling was supreme ,,,you have been brain washed Choulou ,,,Scholes was always overhyped

[Phil Driver 503]

Scholes retired from England when Lampard took his place.,he knew it was pointless and a series of long travels where on the agenda and a lot of bench warming .

Scholes was never really world class and second in the European player of the year, good player though and got quite a few goals from his advanced role,does not compare with Lampard though ,maybe it was the sideways passes that turned some on?

[Phil Driver 503]

Very interesting to hear Carragher say Eriksson should have been strong and played Gerrard in the holding role for England and Lampard in the advanced role,he knew who was best really.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

yes his tackling was supreme ,,,you have been brain washed Choulou ,,,Scholes was always overhyped

His tackling was his only weakness. His technical ability is second to none. His passing was phenomenal, especially his long passing when coupled with excellent vision. But most of all he was a very intelligent. He literally ran the midfield and controlled the whole game by himself. He could also get forward and score when needed. I'd personally take Scholes over the likes of Xavi and Pirlo anytime.

But anyway that is just my opinion. Game of opinions..

[zolayes 14,489]

His tackling was his only weakness. His technical ability is second to none. His passing was phenomenal, especially his long passing when coupled with excellent vision. But most of all he was a very intelligent. He literally ran the midfield and controlled the whole game by himself. He could also get forward and score when needed. I'd personally take Scholes over the likes of Xavi and Pirlo anytime.

But anyway that is just my opinion. Game of opinions..

of course ,,,but your opinions are just that ,,how much of Scholes have you actually SEEN?

[Phil Driver 503]

Jamie Carragher believes Frank Lampard is second only to Steven Gerrard in the list of best English midfielders of the Premier League era, ranking him above Paul Scholes.

The retired defender is adamant the 35-year-old Chelsea midfielder, who has notched 166 goals in the top flight of English football, has been the more influential than Scholes and says he has not received the plaudits he deserves.

ENGLAND LATEST 8/1 Frank Lampard is 8/1 with BetVictor to score first against Everton

“Frank has a catalogue of golden moments and, for that reason, I have him behind Steven but ahead of Paul Scholes in my list of the Premier League’s top three English midfielders,” Carragher wrote in his column in the Daily Mail.

“I know Barcelona’s Xavi described Scholes as the best midfielder of the last 20 years but Frank has influenced more big games — his goals clinched Chelsea’s first title in 2005, he has won them an FA Cup final and scored in a Champions League final.

“He has also played more and scored more for England, and his tally of 166 Premier League goals — the highest by a midfielder — outstrips the 107 Scholes scored.”

Lampard and Gerrard were often criticised for failing to work well as a partnership for England, but Carragher believes the lack of success the pair enjoyed should be blamed on former Three Lions boss Sven-Goran Eriksson.

“I was adamant [Lampard] merited playing alongside Gerrard. If anything, Eriksson made a mess of whether Gerrard and Lampard could be a partnership. Of course they could have,” Carragher continued.

“A strong manager would have told Steven to play the holding role — that is more in his make-up — and to let Frank go forward.

“But he didn’t. He fudged it. That’s why Scholes ended up out on the left and eventually in international retirement.

“This is not an attack on Scholes — it is anything but. It is just important to illustrate what Lampard has achieved as I don’t believe he has had the credit he deserves.”

Gerrard is my mate but Lampard was the best attacking midfielder and Gerrard should have played deeper to accomodate Lampard.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

of course ,,,but your opinions are just that ,,how much of Scholes have you actually SEEN?

Mostly since 2002. I know that not everyone appreciates what Scholes does, I just think it is the most important job on the pitch. And Scholes was the best at this particular job, imo.

[zolayes 14,489]

2002 ...very few games were live on tv ...sorry but dont think you have ever seen him live

you are 22 in 2002 you were 11 years old ...sorry if I dont rate your opinion

[Phil Driver 503]

Does he know that Roy Keane and Nicky Butt played the holding role at Utd?

[zolayes 14,489]

Does he know that Roy Keane and Nicky Butt played the holding role at Utd?

does he know who they were????

[Strike 7,489]

So we must have scored 5 today and did not need a threat from midfield? Did anyone have a decent shot from outside the box? Mikel had one first half ,did I say decent?

Did anyone time a perfect run into the box to finish off our approach play? as well as recovering his position when not in possession.

One can only hope Jose has learned he was right in the first place on Lampard,resting him after a difficult week playing for England and with the champions league in mind is a luxury we are unable to afford,as today showed.

Lampard was a passenger today. Right decision to leave him out. Wrong decision to get him on especially for a wide player like Schurrle.

Mikel-Ramires was the right pivot. Mikel, in particular, had a good game

[Phil Driver 503]

We lost 1-0 and difficult to score when you are on the bench,Lampard is never a passenger when he plays ,Mikel was ok for him ,but he is a passenger in the bigger picture.

He played ,we lost again. Ramires,Mikel is a poor partnership but anyone Mikel is a poor partnership inc Lampard-Mikel.

Lampard must be back for the Champions League ,my only take on yesterday was ,Jose was saving him after a tough week playiing for England and we paid the price again with another loss when Mikel plays. The stats do not lie ,when he plays we are likely to lose .

[CHOULO19 24,332]

2002 ...very few games were live on tv ...sorry but dont think you have ever seen him live

you are 22 in 2002 you were 11 years old ...sorry if I dont rate your opinion

Oh no, how ever will I sleep at night knowing that you don't 'rate' my opinion

[Phil Driver 503]

You can't ban him he is the president . Sleep well .

[TrippingStep 336]

Jamie Carragher believes Frank Lampard is second only to Steven Gerrard in the list of best English midfielders of the Premier League era, ranking him above Paul Scholes.

The retired defender is adamant the 35-year-old Chelsea midfielder, who has notched 166 goals in the top flight of English football, has been the more influential than Scholes and says he has not received the plaudits he deserves.

ENGLAND LATEST 8/1 Frank Lampard is 8/1 with BetVictor to score first against Everton

“Frank has a catalogue of golden moments and, for that reason, I have him behind Steven but ahead of Paul Scholes in my list of the Premier League’s top three English midfielders,” Carragher wrote in his column in the Daily Mail.

“I know Barcelona’s Xavi described Scholes as the best midfielder of the last 20 years but Frank has influenced more big games — his goals clinched Chelsea’s first title in 2005, he has won them an FA Cup final and scored in a Champions League final.

“He has also played more and scored more for England, and his tally of 166 Premier League goals — the highest by a midfielder — outstrips the 107 Scholes scored.”

Lampard and Gerrard were often criticised for failing to work well as a partnership for England, but Carragher believes the lack of success the pair enjoyed should be blamed on former Three Lions boss Sven-Goran Eriksson.

“I was adamant [Lampard] merited playing alongside Gerrard. If anything, Eriksson made a mess of whether Gerrard and Lampard could be a partnership. Of course they could have,” Carragher continued.

“A strong manager would have told Steven to play the holding role — that is more in his make-up — and to let Frank go forward.

“But he didn’t. He fudged it. That’s why Scholes ended up out on the left and eventually in international retirement.

“This is not an attack on Scholes — it is anything but. It is just important to illustrate what Lampard has achieved as I don’t believe he has had the credit he deserves.”

Gerrard is my mate but Lampard was the best attacking midfielder and Gerrard should have played deeper to accomodate Lampard.

4-4-2 with Gerrard Lampard was such a bad idea.

At their clubs, they had Mascherano and Alonso behind for Gerrard, and Makelele Ballack or Essien behind Lampard.