HRiver 1,512 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 CechIvanovic - Luiz - Terry - ColeMikelRamires - MeirelesSturridge - Torres - MataorCechIvanovic - Luiz - Terry - ColeMeirelesRamires - LampardSturridge - Torres - Mata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Now we've missed out on Modric I don't think Mata is exclusively going to be used as a winger. I expect him to play CAM with Malouda and Sturridge out wide just as much as I expect to see him in a winger's berth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 OMG, obviously I know Mata's a fucking creative player. We're gonna use him on the wing.calm down! so your basically contradicting yourself?If you think we are just going to stick Mata on the wing and tell him to just get on with it then you are mistaken! Mata will surely get the freedom to drift from left to right and through the middle! thats the only way to get the best out of him, he may even start matches in the middle playing behind the strikers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 will depend who comes back free from injury after the internationals..Yes ,,this stop ...start to the season has seriously pissed me off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I think you've got wrong impression of Meireles. Overall he's pretty balanced but he's definitely more offensive-minded than defensive-minded. Not like Ramires at all, unless AVB gives him a defensive role which I doubt and hope won't happen.I thought I had. I always thought he was a DMF so I was thinking "why's everyone using him up there?!"But if he's more offensive-minded then I'm happier with his signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Rather than play 4-3-3 as standard I have always thought, in particular when playing at home and in Europe, that we should play 4-2-3-1. It's a formation very popular on the continent, and I believe Hiddink was trying to play something similar when he was in charge of us.GK CechLB A ColeRB Bosingwa/IvanovicCB David Luiz/AlexCB TerryCM MeirelesCM RamiresAM LampardRW SturridgeLW MataST TorresBy playing two deeper midfielders you don't necessarily need a sitter, and you can utilise the energy and drive of both Meireles and Ramires running from deep. The formation still doesn't shackle Lampard. Although if Lampard does not pick up his form I would replace him with McEachran or move Mata into the centre and play Malouda out wide.IF we were to continue playing 4-3-3 with a holding midfielder I would love AVB to give David Luiz a go there, just to add some dynamism to that position, and to improve the pressing game that he's trying to bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Rather than play 4-3-3 as standard I have always thought, in particular when playing at home and in Europe, that we should play 4-2-3-1. It's a formation very popular on the continent, and I believe Hiddink was trying to play something similar when he was in charge of us.GK CechLB A ColeRB Bosingwa/IvanovicCB David Luiz/AlexCB TerryCM MeirelesCM RamiresAM LampardRW SturridgeLW MataST TorresBy playing two deeper midfielders you don't necessarily need a sitter, and you can utilise the energy and drive of both Meireles and Ramires running from deep. The formation still doesn't shackle Lampard. Although if Lampard does not pick up his form I would replace him with McEachran or move Mata into the centre and play Malouda out wide.IF we were to continue playing 4-3-3 with a holding midfielder I would love AVB to give David Luiz a go there, just to add some dynamism to that position, and to improve the pressing game that he's trying to bring in.Looks good, except id replace Lampard with Meireles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I would expect AVB to choose: Cech Bossingwa - Luiz -Terry - Cole Mikel Ramires - Lampard Anelka - Torres - Mata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I thought I had. I always thought he was a DMF so I was thinking "why's everyone using him up there?!"But if he's more offensive-minded then I'm happier with his signing.He does play deeper for Portugal while he was more AM for Liverpool. I'm happy if he can do either well since Chelsea need improvement in both areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 We rarely have our best 11 players fit and on form. It's up AVB to pick players on form and rest when needed. If he plays favourites like Carlo did then we're done for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I would be more than happy with us putting this team out....this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 As long as Ramires and Mikel are not playing together, im happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Ramires as a DM? Ramires can run all day but his passing is rubbish. It would be suicide to play him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Ramires as a DM? Ramires can run all day but his passing is rubbish. It would be suicide to play him there.I agree. I know he's done well in some areas for the first three games but he's also a big reason why the midfield struggles. He's got great pace, stamina and attitude and those things shouldn't be dismissed so easily. But he's also technically and tactically limited and these shortcomings means a dysfunctional midfield when you have two other not so technically gifted midfielders. I think Ramires would work if Modric was around and allowed him to make use of his pace. But that doesn't work with Lampard and Mikel.Ramires works well for a counter-attacking team or situations but he's not so great for keeping possession, building attacks and controlling the tempo of the games. He simply doesn't have the skills to do those things. Check out the stats for the Norwich games where Hilario attempted more passes than Ramires did. That scenario shouldn't happen to a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I agree. I know he's done well in some areas for the first three games but he's also a big reason why the midfield struggles. He's got great pace, stamina and attitude and those things shouldn't be dismissed so easily. But he's also technically and tactically limited and these shortcomings means a dysfunctional midfield when you have two other not so technically gifted midfielders. I think Ramires would work if Modric was around and allowed him to make use of his pace. But that doesn't work with Lampard and Mikel.Ramires works well for a counter-attacking team or situations but he's not so great for keeping possession, building attacks and controlling the tempo of the games. He simply doesn't have the skills to do those things. Check out the stats for the Norwich games where Hilario attempted more passes than Ramires did. That scenario shouldn't happen to a midfielder.100% Good post.He is a great athlete but a pretty average footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 He is a great athlete but a pretty average footballer.Don't you know in many cases that qualifies you to be on the pitch. Case in point Walcott: fast as hell, dumb as a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 cechbos ivan jt ash david luiz rambo miereles mata studger el ninoid like to see this given a go but i wont expect it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 ---------Torres--------Mata---Meireles--Sturridge-----Lampard-Ramires-----Cole-Terry-Ivanovic-Bosingwa-------------Cech--------------Thats my 11 for the Sunderland game If Cech is back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 But what about Luiz? ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jAMAL j 13 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Why everyone is writing off Didier Drogba ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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