didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 They finished 6th last season. Not quite midtable and I really think they are a contender for top 4 this season he is a troll. forget him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Yet again 99% of the post's have been about the same shit again (i have been guilty too)Can't we talk about the goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Lukaku should never have gone out on loan, and that's how I felt before he was scoring goals for Everton. Yes he's young and needs to be starting pretty much every game but I still believe he's more effective than our current strikers. He proved himself last season and deserved a shot this season. Yetonotherbelgian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The reason he's starting games at Everton is because they don't have anyone better.... Do we?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 After that celebration, not sure if its Lukaku or.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Experience and skill. That's what makes it tough to choose strikers. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Next season he will be back, banging in goals in and Jose will be proved right yet again. Just like he has been with Mata and just like he was when he instantly replaced Cudicini with Cech, another decision that got people moaning at the time.Just like he was with mata? Are you serious? He was delusional thinking we could do good with out mata. But mata showed him wrong as most fans thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Just like he was with mata?Are you serious?He was delusional thinking we could do good with out mata.But mata showed him wrong as most fans thought as well.Mata was played to exhaustion last season, he was clearly unfit at the start and since coming back into the team he looks an even better and more all round player.I'ts not just the start of this season he lost form, he was a shadow of himself for a lot of the second half of last season too. SinineUltra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Mata was played to exhaustion last season, he was clearly unfit at the start and since coming back into the team he looks an even better and more all round player.I'ts not just the start of this season he lost form, he was a shadow of himself for a lot of the second half of last season too.Rdm did the same last season given him a rest. Nothing genius about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Yet again 99% of the post's have been about the same shit again (i have been guilty too)Can't we talk about the goal?If we were to talk about his goal, it will only infuriate most of us to see him scoring elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Rdm did the same last season given him a rest.Nothing genius about that.RDM rested him for one match at QPR and that was because he had a holiday during the international break. Mourinho has worked hard in improving other aspects of his game (which will probably stand him in better stead of playing for Spain, can you thinkof any other reason Pedro gets the nod over him?) something which RDM didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The reason he's starting games at Everton is because they don't have anyone better.... Do we??In theory no, but in theory McEachran was our solution to our creativity problems in 10/11. Is it fair to ask a young lad from going to rotating with Shane Long at West Brom to having our expectation's in two of the biggest club competition's in the world on his shoulders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 5, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2013 The simple fact is that at the end of this loan he still needs to be given a chance by this club. He still needs to prove himself in a Chelsea shirt. That requires a leap of faith from this club and I don't know if they'll take it. They could've taken it this season and we might have had a striker who can score goals.I'm pretty sure Lukaku will get his chance next season if he plays well over the season at Everton (which I'm pretty sure he will). Everyone knows he scores goals, that's not in dispute - it's his general play that needs to improve and he won't get the opportunity to do that here at CFC. There's no rush with this kid, he's only 20 and still has his whole career ahead of him. I rather him develop his overall game at Everton and gain more valuable experience by playing all the time so he'll be even more ready to take that number 1 CF spot. SinineUltra, Eden2020, Tomo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Just like he was with mata?Are you serious?He was delusional thinking we could do good with out mata.But mata showed him wrong as most fans thought as well.He didn't think we would do good without Mata. We've gotten along fairly well, picking up points apart from the Basel game.He never said Mata was useless and never would play for Chelsea. He wanted Mata to know that he has to adapt and play in a way that would fit the team. Mata didn't show him wrong. He did what Jose asked him to do, cause he's a tremendous professional and doesn't mind working hard to achieve what he has to. If he has proved anyone wrong, then it is those who thought Jose was throwing Mata away from the team, and that he would never again play for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 RDM rested him for one match at QPR and that was because he had a holiday during the international break. Mourinho has worked hard in improving other aspects of his game (which will probably stand him in better stead of playing for Spain, can you thinkof any other reason Pedro gets the nod over him?) something which RDM didn't.If you mean helping defense when we don't have the ball or when they put pressure on him then I don't think it has improved much. I will wait til we play city when yaya and fernandinho are on our ass and see if this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 In theory no, but in theory McEachran was our solution to our creativity problems in 10/11. Is it fair to ask a young lad from going to rotating with Shane Long at West Brom to having our expectation's in two of the biggest club competition's in the world on his shoulders?We don't ask him.... We pay him. It's his job. I genuinely believe he has the quality and attitude to survive and thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure Lukaku will get his chance next season if he plays well over the season at Everton (which I'm pretty sure he will). Everyone knows he scores goals, that's not in dispute - it's his general play that needs to improve and he won't get the opportunity to do that here at CFC.There's no rush with this kid, he's only 20 and still has his whole career ahead of him. I rather him develop his overall game at Everton and develop his overall game so he'll be even more ready to take that number 1 CF spot.Spot on,and people can say what they like about Eto'o but the guy has been in 3 CL final's won three and scored in two. His experience will be priceless if we get far regardless of the fact he is not as good as he use to be.Terry isn't as good as he use to be, but we can't say we aren't benefiting from his know how. SinineUltra and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure Lukaku will get his chance next season if he plays well over the season at Everton (which I'm pretty sure he will). Everyone knows he scores goals, that's not in dispute - it's his general play that needs to improve and he won't get the opportunity to do that here at CFC. There's no rush with this kid, he's only 20 and still has his whole career ahead of him. I rather him develop his overall game at Everton and develop his overall game so he'll be even more ready to take that number 1 CF spot.Why wouldn't he get that opportunity here??Which of our strikers is in form?What about champions league experience? Surely he needs that too. There's always an argument not to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 We don't ask him.... We pay him. It's his job. I genuinely believe he has the quality and attitude to survive and thrive.I understand that, but also we have to think of the bigger picture aswell, if he say shows his inexperience in a CL semi final at the Allianz Arena and has a stinker with the world watching, he could suffer mentally with that at such a young age.The mental side is often underestimated in football, look at Scott Carson, was one of the best upcoming young keepers, thrown in for England's do or die Euro qualifayer thinking he was ready, single handedly lost us the match (and qualifaction for Euro 08) and is now a championship goalkeeper than not PL club will touch with a bargepole.That match alone turned his form around, before that match he was the inform keeper in the league,after that he was a wreck that Villa and Liverpool couldn't wait to get shot off. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Spot on,and people can say what they like about Eto'o but the guy has been in 3 CL final's won three and scored in two. His experience will be priceless if we get far regardless of the fact he is not as good as he use to be.Terry isn't as good as he use to be, but we can't say we aren't benefiting from his know how.Clarence Seedorf had tons of experience... Should we replace Ramires with him?Or is what a player does now more important than what they did? didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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