Oslo bombing and Utøya shooting

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Stupid Law

[kongdaniel 34]

That's even worse. Trying to get votes by using fear? Sounds likes Fascism.

Do you know which party he was representing?

He is a former member of FRP.

When at the island, he took his time killing one by one.

And when the police arrived he put his gun on the ground once they shouted at him, so I dont really know his motive.....

[manpe 10,861]

I wouldn't be too sure mate, this guy got the max for killing 22 people.

"Released in 2004, he is presumed to be living at an undisclosed location in Norway, under a new name." - and they even protect this poor bastard. 21 years for 22 lives is crap... if this dude gets 21 years for killing almost 100, then something's wrong with norwegian law.... Have somebody bomb near the White House and then kill an island full of children, the death penalty would become legal in no time across the atlantic. You can't expect psychopatic sociopaths to cure and become harmless in only 21 years. I hope he gets raped and killed in jail like they do in south african prisons (not too likely, sadly).

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"Released in 2004, he is presumed to be living at an undisclosed location in Norway, under a new name." - and they even protect this poor bastard. 21 years for 22 lives is crap... if this dude gets 21 years for killing almost 100, then something's wrong with norwegian law.... Have somebody bomb near the White House and then kill an island full of children, the death penalty would become legal in no time across the atlantic. You can't expect psychopatic sociopaths to cure and become harmless in only 21 years. I hope he gets raped and killed in jail like they do in south african prisons (not too likely, sadly).

I think he probably will manpe, he's got 100 families gunning for him if he even gets out of jail alive.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

You can't expect psychopatic sociopaths to cure and become harmless in only 21 years. I hope he gets raped and killed in jail like they do in south african prisons (not too likely, sadly).

Those 2 lines are counter productive of what you're describing won't happen, but you'd wish to happen.

If his mental state is in question then prison (even till his death) is not the answer at all. Be logical & rational.

[manpe 10,861]

I think he probably will manpe, he's got 100 families gunning for him if he even gets out of jail alive.

What would that help. If anybody decided to kill his ass after he becomes free, then they will end up in jail too. "Wild justice" is punishable. He'd probably move away with a new name too.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

they`ve been mentioning last night and this morning that he was a christian foundamentalist but why then the political targets..if he wanted to make it look like muslims done it or whatever,why didn`t he go somewhere where he had a better chance to get away. it`s obviously has been a well made plan by himself (if it was only him,i happen to think personally it was only him,atleast as the foot man.

i don`t know if i mentioned it here or elsewhere but i can`t see him doing 10 years in prison..suicide perhaps but probably killed by another inmate. he`s gonna be the top security prisoner but accidents happen..

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What would that help. If anybody decided to kill his ass after he becomes free, then they will end up in jail too. "Wild justice" is punishable. He'd probably move away with a new name too.

Wouldn't help anything but it would be understandable, I'd be pretty keen for revenge if someone murdered my son/daughter.

[Kostas 1,468]

Very very disturbing and sad. Hard to believe a single man can create such havoc.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

It's a shame the Amy Winehouse thread has more replies than this one & it's all I can see on Facebook. Innocent people dying for no reason is more news worthy & shocking than a celebrity throwing their life away.

i know what you saying Kez..both news sad..but yeah,just by the numbers 92 dead v 1 dead..

i think though that is possibly the main reason why...the deaths of 85 kids essentially and 7 i presume adults is a lot harder for some people to face upto and discuss their feelings about...where as with Amy and her fans like all famous people they get followed in the media so much that some people feel like they kinda know these people..and in Amy`s case even tho she`s only 27 it`s something that has been on the cards for the last 3 or 4 years so it`s not that much of a shock and easier to talk about.

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[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

What would that help. If anybody decided to kill his ass after he becomes free, then they will end up in jail too. "Wild justice" is punishable. He'd probably move away with a new name too.

if they killed a love one of mine like Kostas said a son/daughter or in my case one of my nieces i would do everything in my power to kill him..i lost a son 4 years back and it nearly killed me and it was nobodies fault. but to have someone just wipe out a loved one for whatever reason..it would be my life purpose to wipe them out.

i realize not a rational ,christian whatever you want to say attitude but just the reality of the situation would overwhelm me.

[manpe 10,861]

I do understand, don't get me wrong... It's just that it would ruin your life, if you were caught. That means one more life ruined by the killer, and 21 years of living and waiting gone wasted. Or yeah, if 92 lives give 21 years, then 1 life would be a quarter of year that could well be worth it.. ok, jokes aside, I don't think calm norwegians would plot a bloody revenge for 21 years, but who knows.

Sad to hear about your son though. I hope all goes well for you from now on.

EDIT: My Norwegian friend told me this: "In real life you can "secure" people for 5 years, and 5 years more, etc - until forever. This will probably happen. [...] He published a book with a theory he now stars a civil war in Europe."

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

I do understand, don't get me wrong... It's just that it would ruin your life, if you were caught. That means one more life ruined by the killer, and 21 years of living and waiting gone wasted. Or yeah, if 92 lives give 21 years, then 1 life would be a quarter of year that could well be worth it.. ok, jokes aside, I don't think calm norwegians would plot a bloody revenge for 21 years, but who knows.

Sad to hear about your son though. I hope all goes well for you from now on.

i hear you man is just ya know amongst those killed there could have been a single dad or a wife/husband with no children whose lost everything now..he/she will be in so much pain they will want to die..when you in that frame mind 21 years in prison means nothing.

it`s a lifelong on-going battle to be honest mate...i`ll never be the same. but to survive i try and put short lil goals to aim for ahead of me..i can`t think of things like 10 years ahead ,it`s way too long...but at the moment it`s my goal to help my nieces through to when they are fine young women and have the life skills to explore and cope in the world on their own.

i declared a few weeks ago on the "how are you feeling?" thread that i have an incurable mental illness but i`ve had that for 21 years anyway. it`s just over traumatic experiences in life can tip me over the edge.

anyway man ,let`s get this thread back on track..is too sensitive a subject to derail this thread with my issues.

[manpe 10,861]

i declared a few weeks ago on the "how are you feeling?" thread that i have an incurable mental illness but i`ve had that for 21 years anyway. it`s just over traumatic experiences in life can tip me over the edge.

Sorry to hear that

[kongdaniel 34]

He gets 21 years now, and if he does anything wrong after being released he gets 21 more years, the police will be watching him for the rest of his life.

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

Doesnt take much to do a shrink job on this fruit loop.

No girlfriends, no boyfriends, hatred of immigrants, looking to blame others for his repressed misery. Probably thought wanking was sinful.

Ths scary thing about the type of individual Anders Breivik is, is that there are quite a few Tory , Christian nutjobs in this country.....

[Kez 2,727]

i know what you saying Kez..both news sad..but yeah,just by the numbers 92 dead v 1 dead..

i think though that is possibly the main reason why...the deaths of 85 kids essentially and 7 i presume adults is a lot harder for some people to face upto and discuss their feelings about...where as with Amy and her fans like all famous people they get followed in the media so much that some people feel like they kinda know these people..and in Amy`s case even tho she`s only 27 it`s something that has been on the cards for the last 3 or 4 years so it`s not that much of a shock and easier to talk about.

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I understand totally what your saying. I think Jason Manford has put it better than anyone else has

Jason Manford

There's a lot of weird comments floating around tonight regarding Amy Winehouse, stuff like 'yeah well we should feel sorry for the people of Norway not a druggy". Can't we as humans with full hearts, feel for both tragedies and both sets of families left behind

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

Looks like steroids were involved as well.

Mmm, so what do we have a ? 30 something virgin, Christian fundaMENTAlist, absorption of right wing media poison, easy access to firearms & fertilizer PLUS steroids… a perfect storm.

Who was that chap on here banging on about hell and atheists will burn etc ?: