Thibaut Courtois

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Thibaut in his pomp is magnificent. His collection of the ball is excellent, major saves at crucial moments, remember that thanks to him Atletico beat Real after 15 years and started the trend that lasts to date. He generally adds calmness and stability to the team. Even that distrubition as a problem is nowhere to be seen.

He seems to need a fresh start. As is Matic as is Hazard. I won't give up on them as I know how good they can be. Even I'm hot and cold on Oscar as from one side I think he has absolutely no right to be here next season after 4 years of patchy form but then again I think maybe this Antonio Conte is able to stabilize him as a player.

Thibaut stays.

[Tomo 21,733]

57 minutes ago, Jason said:

Would Begovic really do any worse than Courtois right now...?

Even in not so great form Courtois has made saves that would have been certain goals with Begovic in (Martial and Lingards efforts at Stamford Bridge for example).

That's not to knock Begovic, they were impossible saves, but Courtois made them.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Even in not so great form Courtois has made saves that would have been certain goals with Begovic in (Martial and Lingards efforts at Stamford Bridge for example).

That's not to knock Begovic, they were impossible saves, but Courtois made them.

But on the other hand, Begovic probably wouldn't have let in so many goals at his near post!

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1 hour ago, milan.cech said:

One more point to add - I got so angry when in the stoppage time a Norwich player was down, Tibo had the ball and instead of clearing it wide and giving the defense some rest, wasted some time, he tried to set up an attack that ended in 2 seconds.

That was the right play. We had the chance to kill them off there.

[Stats 7,053]

On 01/03/2016 at 9:54 PM, kellzfresh said:

I don't know if it's because of the previous injury but, 

Cech >>>> Courtois 

And it's not close 

Did you see Cech for Williams goal tonight? Suicidal and cost Arsenal deadly. Let's be honest as well. As good as Cech has been this season, he has been subject to a lot of dodgy keeping himself which seems to be forgetten on here.

Team Courtois!

[kellzfresh 7,229]

9 hours ago, Stats said:

Did you see Cech for Williams goal tonight? Suicidal and cost Arsenal deadly. Let's be honest as well. As good as Cech has been this season, he has been subject to a lot of dodgy keeping himself which seems to be forgetten on here.

Team Courtois!

I don't hate Courtois, I love the aspect of his game where he catches crosses, It's a very big help to our defense. But since he got injured, he's been beaten at the near post time and time again. I absolutely hate keepers to be beaten at the near post, in fact that's why I consider mignolet a terrible keeper, I hope Courtois brushes off this near post syndrome. 

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

10 hours ago, Stats said:

Did you see Cech for Williams goal tonight? Suicidal and cost Arsenal deadly. Let's be honest as well. As good as Cech has been this season, he has been subject to a lot of dodgy keeping himself which seems to be forgetten on here.

Team Courtois!

I would agree with you, but you need to consider the fact that Cech is still on our payroll........

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46 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

I don't hate Courtois, I love the aspect of his game where he catches crosses, It's a very big help to our defense. But since he got injured, he's been beaten at the near post time and time again. I absolutely hate keepers to be beaten at the near post, in fact that's why I consider mignolet a terrible keeper, I hope Courtois brushes off this near post syndrome. 

He's been beaten twice or something like that, don't overreact.

[Essien19 1,415]

Young keeper goes through a rough patch, big news...
He has to play as much as possible, even if that means taking some unlucky moments for example Cavani's goal, but he simply has to gain more and more experience,
he will come good in the end. Clearly he has to work on his delivery but De Gea got it under control why should it be impossible for Courtois?
Barca's young keeper Ter Stegen makes mistakes too, i think some people are way too critical, especially when there are some players out here who have been a lot worse!
I like Courtois, didn't think he had it in him to become a potential world beater. He is a hard worker, good on him. Potential future captain here!
 

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1 hour ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I would agree with you, but you need to consider the fact that Cech is still on our payroll........

How? Legend he is but payroll?

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Just now, Stats said:

How? Legend he is but payroll?

 You didn't hear it from me...... but those mistakes he does......they're not real mistakes...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Quite overrated. Even at his best he still is big step behind best gks in terms of influence in matches.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

46 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Quite overrated. Even at his best he still is big step behind best gks in terms of influence in matches.

I wouldn't say he's overrated, he just needs to have matches where he's unstoppable and not concede anything at all. 

For example, his best match is against PSG last season, he made so many saves but still conceded. Apart from the manutd 0-0 match where both him and degea were good, I'm struggling to remember a match where he made lots of saves and still kept a clean sheet. 

[Tomo 21,733]

On 03/03/2016 at 11:50 AM, BlueLyon said:

Quite overrated. Even at his best he still is big step behind best gks in terms of influence in matches.

Tell that to Lingard, Martial and Herrera also Sterling, Lallana and Coutinho.

[Tautvix 1,321]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Tell that to Lingard, Martial and Herrera also Sterling, Lallana and Coutinho.

I guess Courtois is overrated in aspect that he is being compared to the likes of De Gea and Neuer. While Courtois is miles away from Neuer and especially De Gea.

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On 03/03/2016 at 1:48 PM, Tautvix said:

I guess Courtois is overrated in aspect that he is being compared to the likes of De Gea and Neuer. While Courtois is miles away from Neuer and especially De Gea.

He really really isn't.

The only reason he doesn't make as many "for the camera" saved as De Gea does is because his positioning means he doesn't have too.

Take Welbecks goal on Sunday, I'd bet any money that Courtois in the same situation would have gobbled that ball up.

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2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Quite overrated. Even at his best he still is big step behind best gks in terms of influence in matches.

Please name me 5 keepers at his age who you consider are better.
Personally speaking, i have problems coming up with the number.
Won the league in Spain and England, went on to the CL final, made some outstanding saves against the best players in the world, but is just 23 years of age.
Off the field he seems very mature: took responsibility and criticized his team mates for holding personal grudges against Jose and so on.

Yes, there are goalkeepers out there who are currently better than him, most of them are older, not in denial, but i can see him taking the number one spot in the future.
That has to count for something!

I think the expectations are way too high: Courtois is criticized for not being able to compete with the best, what i think is very harsh,
but do we have one player who is outstanding in his position? Who are we to demand such a thing?!
I don't see anyone at all. Most of the guys have been an utter disgrace so far, imo.
We aren't entitled to have world's best anymore, they go to Spain, Munich, Paris, Manchester and so on.

But i call ourselves lucky because i think Courtois is an outstanding goalie who has just been a bit 'unlucky'.
Really like this guy, that's not always been this way, back in 2012 i thought Cech is nailed on for the next 10 years, but looking at the performances, 
i can't complain about the switch.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

57 minutes ago, Tomo said:

He really really isn't.

The only reason he doesn't make as many "for the camera" saved as De Gea does is because his positioning means he doesn't have too.

Take Welbecks goal on Sunday, I'd bet any money that Courtois in the same situation would have gobbled that ball up.

Same can be said that De Gea would kept Cavani shot...

Thing with Tibo is that he has awesome match like against Psg and then still concede stupid goal. Best gks would take that match to end as draw.

He is good GK but right now De gea and Neuer are better. Buffon too. Historicaly Cech, prime Casillas, Kahn etc are all doctors to Tibo. 

That said Tibo is realy young and will get among best no doubt. But atm he is just not a man that can win you game.