I personally couldn't care less. Having the likes of City, Arsenal and Liverpool representing English football would do that to you. they aren't big enough. Arsenal will get to R16, Liverpool too, but neither have good chances of advancing further unless they have a very favorable draw. English football is the most exciting football in the world for me, how English teams flare in UCL doesn't reflect the league's quality imo. But to each their own... I want all three of them screwed over and some more. I hate them all (I'm such a hater, hahahahaha). That's why I want Saints next season on UCL, at least I'll be happy with an English team advancing - other than us, that is.