Clevemayer

thats soooo right, either Ramy or Mikel HAS to be dropped, ramires is so technically limited it hurts to see him try'n to play attractive fooball, he is a pure tackler and has endless stamni... I would give my right hand for seeing that old midfild with a little new face Essien-Mikel-Josh.... this would be great... If Ramy play, drop Mikel, our midfield is to slow and one dimensional with this formation...

please get josh, Mereiles and Bertrand for that ones I've striked through...

Soul of Stamford :bs_spam:

exactly thats the only thing, and he's so unlucky with that, you remember the seven shots at the post in ONE season? sometimes its like God hates to see Mikel score

yes this is a fact too, lets see... He is hated by his Country for stepping back more then ones only because of CHELSEA (AFCN, and WC), he last time didnt perform for Nigeria because of an Ankle Injury and was thrown right back into the Mix by AVB, despit his Nationalteam Coach stating, he would throw Mikel out if he plays at the weekend. Then his father was Kindapped... Then you play the season of you're life and even then ppl and especially you're own fans don't rate you. He's here now for a tremendous 6 Years since he was 18, did you ever hear him saying he is not going to pen a new contract? You remember hero Terry officially was demanding other players put pen on Paper or he may would leave?... so these are all components that play against him, but as a Player of such an stature, you HAVE to get you're mind right, as hard is it sounds...

not exactly... he should been given more freedom for sure and get jose out of his mind with his safety first approach... Mikel was looking sublime for large spells of the last three seasons and at the beginning of this season... I thought he had done his breakthrough in the last two seasons... but right now its like I don't see the same player with his confidence, ballcontroll and elegance while playing... Mikel just did look like a Giant on the pitch when he normally played, (Manure Fa-Final, two seasons ago against Manur Old Trafford, Arsenal at the Bridge and away the last 2 Seasons, Inter MIlan CL, CL-Semifinal against Barca away, where he fooled the whole barca Midfield)... its just what would kill every footballer, its when you loose you're hunger and you're motivation, and this normally happens if your club or you're fans don't rate you... but not covering Mikel, if any player plays bad for a period of more than 3 games, he has to proove himself again and fight for his place in the team, even Terry or Drogs, so why not MIkel? this is my opinion...

very nice article and I would loose my fun too if I had such fans, which cirticise me if I'm playing well and if not, and this despite me never been arrogant, always sign a new contract in an blink of an eye and LEAVING MAY NATIONALTEAM ALONE for the sake of my club to prevent an longtime Injury, but this is the same thing I think too about him... he somehow has lost fun at football and this is ver, very sad give his development in the last 3 years or so... AVB HAS to motivate him and bring back his smile while playing...

thats right but the past has told us, that you can't just stick with an formation if it doesn't go you're way, you have to take a Game by Game approach for your shape and formation, you have to line up differently against arsenal, as if you would play against Villa, thats a Fact for me, and I was thinking of AVB as a Person who is able to these kind of things, regardless from whom he is leaving out of the team or not...

Thanks Mate, yeah I'm not sure, Mikel has a slump of form, what he usually has around this time (if you remember the winters for him under Ancelotti?). But I think he can do it and gain confidence, I still think he is a classy midfiler... we need to cover up well at the back and do so in style with an five man midfield and an double anchor... thats what I really think, and josh, mata and lamps flourishing in the mifield, call it an ultra crative one, or at least the most creative we can have right now.. Ash has to be rested in the first place, showhn he isn't the only LB here in the second place and see that he is not an guaranteed starter in the third place... And Bertrand is a top noch player... Lamps could get further up the pitch and bang his goals from midfield like he ever does or switches with mata to give him full freedom... we HAV NO WINGERS so we should stop to play WITH WINGERS... think about you haveing no Beef and trying to grill an Rumpsteak? silly...

My Pick: Bane----Luiz----Terry----Bertrand ----Mikel(Mereiles)---Romeu----- Josh---------Lamps---------Mata- ------------Studge/Torres-------

BS, you all called for transition this time last year around, for changes and all this stuff, I asked all of you If you could take some seasons without success and you all replied "oh yes of course, if it helps" and now look at you... I still belive in AVB and his philosophy and I think he is building something great, he just have to get off all this shackless in form of old players and we will maybe have to take 4 seasons of mid and lowtable placements who the fuck cares? I did wear my Kit yesterday at work... And get right guys... Mikel did ONE fuck'n error, which wasn't even his fault in the first place! I can Remember Ramires loosinge more balls against Leverkusen then Mikel in his whole carreere, and still I think Ramires is a good player (albeit only for the last 20 minutes if everybody else around him has no stamnia and you think he has just startet his engine ) last season top performer and at the beginning of this season too... now he has three or four bad games and you blame him for everything... why dont blame Drogs and Torres for not hitting the Target, and Torres is far worse than Mikel since his switching over, when even I could score outa that positions they get in? why dont blame our captain and our whole back four, for playing like littel 6-year old Kids? so many morrons out there really... these are the same guys who want success on a long term, hunt for the heads of our proven players, and say they're ready for hard times... while calling for one of the best young managers in the World head at the same breath taken... seems like none of you has ever had hard times with his beloved team... i will KTBFFH even in second devision, get real success is not permanent (see liverscum and Neewcastle and so on)

hope his dad is fine and it is not the first time mikel plays for us under enormous pressure, he hasn't participated with his national team for many times that I can remember, because he was injured, he even refused to play at the worldcup despite being named captain... not many are so matured and calm in they're head as mikel, and thats one thing I really love about him, he always states he want to end his career with us, from day one and he never said he was regretting not joining manboo, the best thing about it actually is, I believe him... so kudos and hope his dad comes back healthy...

its my oppinion, I'm not going to throw wonder-numbers around, even torres wasn't better then 7.5 in my oppinion... thats what I think... Alex did what a defender has to do and that, so it must be said, sublimely well, so he has a better rating then the most of the others...

my ratings Cech: 7 A.cole: 6,5 Terry: 6 Alex: 6,5 Bosingwa: 6,5 Mikel: 7 Ramires 6 Lampard 6 Malouda 5,5 Torres: 7,5 Kalou 4,5 --- Drogba: 6 Anelka; 6 Yossi -

probably kalou is the best cocksucker in this world, so he really does get some starts from EVERY manager who has played here... there is no other rational reason

yeah he "limped" off, looked somehow serious first, hope it isn't his crucial ligaments... looked like it at the first sight...

sry I have to say you have no clue about Bertrand... he is right now at this stage a way better fullback than pva... pva is more of an winger... and not a left back...

if that description of the barca-side sweets him well, he is our new essien, welcome mate...

if it wasn't posted sports.ru

I hope from the deepest of my heart that we can finis two years in a row at the 4th and 5th spot at the EPL so all this guys only here for glory and moaning if there is no success, with no patience can finally go away...

kakuta and france lose against columbi 4-1

can this be true? the season didn't even start and wir talking about defending Villas-Boas

when is the first game of france?

listen, this is YOU'RE personal thinking, that Mikel isn't worth 30 Mio but worth 15 Mio, so if you was an manager you wouldn't pay more than 15 Mio for him, or wouldn't even consider buying him, but that is if YOU was the manager. This graph shows the Marketvalue of an player bases on an complex structure of his reputation with his managers, scouts, sold shirts, the "brand" of the player, his spnsorship deals and his quality... so this tiny little graph says more about the market value than you're PERSONAL thinking of what mikel is worth or not, and it says a lot about how much ppl underrate him, the last part wasn't for you it was for an childish member of this board so never mind... just realise you're WRONG because you ARE, based on pure numbers. so Mikel's REAL Marketvalue = 20 and Pastores = 22, and as we know the market is undergoing an enormus inflation where a Carroll is worth 35, a NEYMAR is worth 45, a Pastore (nearly same value as Mikel) is worth 42, a Modric is worth 40, a Jerome Boateng (he is WORSE than Mancienne, but was sold at an 5 times higher figure) and there is you comeing around the corner and tell us mikel is worth 10 - 15 Mio... so what?...

so you see pastore is worth 22 Mio in PURE MARKETVALUE and you go conform with us spending 45 Mio on him but you see also Mikel being worth 20 Mio in PURE MARKETVALUE but he isn't worth 30 Mio and you think we should sell him on 15 Mio, so UNDER his actual market value... what is more laughable? you see an jerome boateng trnsferred for 15 Mio. who didn't do anything of notice and want to sell mikel on the same price... intresting... some ppl are a bit twitsted in they're brain, sometimes I think how they're able to decide which direction they should take on a T-Crossing... some ppl call other ppl silly while they're willing to spent 50 Mio on a 19 year old player who is the next Pele (like was robinho, Keirrison anyone?, transferred fo 15 Mio failed and now has a worth under TWO FUCK'N Millions,Guilherme, transferred for 10 Mio now worth 3) but won't pay 30 on a position that is as crucial to an player whom is already quality and undoubtable and whom havn't even fullfilledhis full potential ...