Stingray

You are a spindoctor with a degree in spinning. Can I just add that the stop-the-abuse action we thought would be fun to do and that we did a couple of days ago, had absolutely nothing to do with you or Kojo, or Term or any of the old gang really. It was an attempt to address the ongoing hostility and intolerance on here. Even something the admins tend to put forth for a while. It says a lot that some of you THINK it was about you. If the shoe fits , .... As an illustration I will quote the by now infamous pub - the sewer of TC - on the 24 hours of gifs: So ... Plz enlighten me why you and others keep referring to the pub (or the gifs) if for example Kojo said it has nothing to do with the pub in the first place. Or why do you start with: if you don't like it, don't go there and then to then continue trying to put everyone against the use of gifs? As I said, put up a poll and make it democratic. I have no quarrel with that and wil even refrain from posting EVEN ONE gif if the community thinks thats the way to go. It is not because a couple of people cry loud, that it means the community thinks the same Also: And that is not condescending and illustrative of a superiority complex? I thought you didn't care what happened in the pub here? You have an agenda . I know you are a Jezus worshipper which is alright with me, but apparently you share the urge for inquisitions like some of his acolytes. You got La Malcontenta on your bandwagon. Have fun with that! On another not: when I first came here, people said it was better before. Cap was gone and dearly missed. Later, every once in a while the same story came back like it always does. even my grandmother says it was better in the old days. Change and evolution is the way of the world, also on forums. But I can understand some conservatives rather have it all like it was years ago.

this, everything, but especially the bold. Just like in high school - and I wonder how much that influenced on this award existing in the first place - it comes down to popularity. Guys like Peace. don't feel the need to be popular and consequently isn't the kind of profile that will make it to the poll or win it. It's been quantity over quality as you suggested in your previous post. The Skipper is a guy who has both things imo. But I guess their main point here is that not only contributions about football should be taken into consideration. I think the staff should take it a little bit more seriously when many different people are complaining about how things are here right now and where they're heading and stop to think just for a little bit why is that. You're not the 1st, 2nd, 5th or maybe not even the 10th member I read complaining how things changed around here (in the last 3 weeks or so). Some quantified it saying the change happened about 1 or 1-1/2 year from now (I can't say because I'm here only for 3 months). More often than not those people complain about quality. I guess it's obvious what's happening and it seems it'll only get worse. But hey, at least it will be fun, right? The thing is I've never seen anyone saying the 'old days' here used to be boring or lacked fun. It's just a new trend that invaded it here and it seems like now it's supposed to be 'fun' (I can think of another word that would be more appropriate) more than it's supposed to be about Chelsea. It affected even the football discussions... I understand that the club became global in the last few years and that there are a lot of new football fans all around the world and it also has an influence, but I think it's the vision that is changing. At some point people won't bother to complain anymore and will leave. And then the least relevant thing - or among the less relevant things - might be football - which is a shame and also sad as this still is the best place to talk about Chelsea among the other CFC forums I know. And then the people like you who complained based in the past - or me who complains based on what it is now without a reference of how it used to be, but enough to know things are weird - are labeled many things. but I've never exchanged a PM with you or with any of the guys I've seen complaining about the same thing (Amels just had the same complaint a few posts after yours). We aren't a secret club targeting a certain group. It's happening for everyone to see, but then we're moaners, the anti-fun committee, the pretentious or whatever else I've read around (can't remember), but it's odd to see a place named Talk Chelsea reinforcing some of things being reinforced here lately. But nobody stops to think that people from different ages, from different countries, who joined the forums on different times are all complaining about quality... It seems people just roll their eyes and think 'there come the moaners' (or whatever), but won't stop to think the moaners are growing and they might as well as leave at some point... Also people shouldn't confuse fun with silliness and childish behavior. Though those three things may be easy to be mixed, they are not the same. and I see more of the last two than the first here... But you make a complain about the environment here and 10 people come saying you're whatever they want to think you are and don't even stop to think if your complaint makes sense in the first place... Also most people don't care about this poll. There are about 150 registered members (statistically speaking it's probably much more - just compare the amount of votes in the Man of the match) coming here every day and this poll has about 30 votes, sometimes 40 votes (like this month that was nearly 50 I guess). This is how much people care about an award that only exists in TC (at least I've never seen something similar in the many tennis, movies, literature, TV shows, Chelsea and football forums I've been part throughout the years). And before a word is said about 'this kind of post' I'm not here supposing I own the truth or that I'm better than someone else or whatever... it's just that people seem to overlook the many complaints in different threads and boards that are slowly spreading throughout the forum. I can't say for someone else, but I'm not against fun - and even some mild silliness (I'm the queen of silly, it would be contradictory to say I hate silliness when I'm a silly person). But Talk Chelsea is changing and I wonder if there will be a breaking point where it'll be less to talk about Chelsea in a realistic and thoughtful way than it'll be about something else... /rant edit: only after I posted I realized this thread already had two pages. So many quality posts here by zolayes, DDA, Amels, Term X. So yeah, it seems a lot of us still want to talk Chelsea mostly here... And one thing about the quantity... as I said The Skipper posts quite often and it isn't too much - sometimes I even want him to post more. (he isn't a babbler like me, although I really posted too much during my first month, getting used to the forum, getting to know people, etc... [it was a shameful amount of 1200 posts in one month and then 1100 split in the next two - and if things continue as they are, it'll be less and less]). So the quantity someone posts isn't a problem, it's what it's in those posts regardless if they're 70/day or 7/day. If TorontoChelsea, The Skipper, bir_c (I guess I misspelled it), Peace., DDA among others decide to post 100 posts a day I'll happily read them all. Sometimes I even re-read their posts and I've learned so much about football in those three months with you guys, for real. As I said: put up a poll. And stop moping, even if it is for free.

Well ok. Take it back then. You can have it.Let us see how you did it, maestros :-) i dare you Term, Kojo, DDA, Zola, Torontochelsea and everyone else. Let's switch roles. Take that initiative and let it rip. I am glad I can learn. I will gladly refrain from posting and watch you guys.

It was a very serious question DDA, mate. I love the serious debate as well ..... You must know that considering you explicitly said I deserved the last motm, remember? I do get a bit worried, though. Most of he gifs stay in the pub area. But hey ... If people want hem out, i will be the first to quit! But then let us have a poll on it? Ps: you say the repetitive moving posts, but my god there has been repetitive bad quality serial writing on here a well. Maybe that just comes with numbers, mate?

Yes! She sure knows how to put it!

I do think it is interesting ....why are people that are on here for longer than 1 year so absent in what happens now? Do they no longer care?

I've won it before, back when the competition was higher , so there's nothing to be bitter about. Skipper & Strike are quality members, but in order to be considered you need to have an uber active month, which means 'putting yourself about'. Whilst the likes of Peace (for example) give us condensed gems every now and then, yet.. when it comes down to the voting, are forgotten about. Timing is also a factor, only the last 2 weeks of the month are considered by most casual members. Bushman (of all people) was nominated a month or so ago, on that basis alone the entire thing should be scrapped. Well ... You just repeated my first post on the subject - really. It is not a football knowledge/strategy contest. It is just a forum award - with exposure as a main item.

Well, the democracy kinda blew itself up here :-) It happens. Ask the 30's :-)

Lol. So you think Skipper has no or not enough quality, nor Strike last month? Just quantity? It is getting better and better. I wonder who some of the lemonlovers on here do think are worthwhile then :-) Keep smiling

I told tell him this was a fun way of addressing the recent hostility on the forum, not him. I even made that quite clear in a pub post. I even tried to pm him that. Really, this isn't about anyone specific and I meant it as a moral booster for the forum. It a bit sad some think its just Stingray or the pub being bitter towards anyone or- spare me - taking over - it was all about a positive outlook. Ps it wasn't 4 - more like + 15

Hey Ron .... As I said to the guys, it was only for a very temporal 24 hours to give a bit of a pinch to the fighting spirit on here. We wanted to make it a bit fun again - that's all :-)

Well, your argument is that I posted memes an stuff from the beginning which is untrue if you check the facts. Me and my friends? lol.

Bullshit mate . Sorry. It is simply not true.

It's all the same to me, I would only say about two people deserved to be nominated on that poll. You've won it? Well I haven't and I've been on this forum for much longer and actually post mostly about football. Henrique has never won it, Terminator X only just managed to win it once. Saying you have won it has just explained it, the funny guys are the ones what keep winning it, WHS won it because of the Mourinho thing, Strike is a popular person on the forum, although I have no complaints of him winning it but it doesn't clear up the ones who aren't getting nominated when they should. Fact is these very good posters aren't winning it and that's just showing why the MOTM award has turned into a popularity contest, it's clearly simple the controversial person wont win, or the person who makes posts just regarding football. No it will be the one who is constantly in the pub section or any other section which involves joking around and posting memes. I don't care about it, I have no problem with the meme posting and such but it's time to let other members have a chance rather than giving it to the same type of people. Actually I won it in january when I hadn't even posted one single meme. Check back if you will. You dont answer my argumentation that it is factually untrue the funny pub members keep winning. It looks a bit like you are just kicking up dust for the sake of it ..

I tried to reply in pm but couldn't mate. But what is going on on here lately and the response we had a couple of days ago wit the avatars and stuff has nothing to do with you, really. Also, I do not see how it is taken over by the pub members. Strike won it - not a pub regular, Skipper won it - not a pub regular+ We hate Scouse won it - not a pub regular + the ones that are nominated now aren't really 'pub people'. Although Blueschick and Hjperdeath pop in on occasion. I won it before but that just because we turned the forum upside down with a crazy avatar action. I remember that Special Juan was the other nominee then - also not a pub regular. So how is it taken over by pub members ? I don't see it, but you must have had a reason for thinking so ...

Lol. He really looks like that doesn't he. Plus: we would have another Fro in the team :-)

Well hello .... We have quite the jolly gang here on this forum ps: welcome !

Mmmmm. Interesting :-)

He must be fit enuogh for two minutes

I seriously hope he gets game time!

That is gonna be fun .....

I say ... rotation is everything!

AWESOME!!! You get an upvote!