Belgiannutt
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But that's an assumption your making. Since his time here he hasn't mentioned RM or Barcelona. He hasn't said anything about leaving Chelsea. I just feel people should give him the benefit of the doubt.
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It's okay. I don't think everyone has to be a fan of his. Whether you like a player or not is your own opinion. It's just that sometimes i see people making assumptions about him or accusations that (imo) are wrong. Like i said in my former post i think a lot of people have got a wrong impression of him. Some Chelsea fans seem to think that he's just gonna bide his time here and then move to Spain. It makes them support Hazard less because they kinda see him like an interim Chelsea player. I think that's unfair as in his time here he hasn't given any indication that he sees Chelsea as a stepping stone or even mentioned RM or Barcelona.
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Hazard is a loyal player aswell. I think a lot of people have got the wrong impression of Hazard. He's really a good guy. He stayed with Lille for five years while top teams were constantly fighting over him. He could have easily left them a lot sooner. At the end of the 2010-2011 season he had only 2 years left on his contract. He could have easily forced Lille into selling him cheap but he signed a new contract and promised to stay 1 more year.
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No not really. It's your opinion. Any particular reason why your so short with me ?
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Euhm might i ask why Hazard is getting shunned ?
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Watching old YT videos of him when he played for Lille. So strange how big a difference there is between then and how he's playing now. He used to just dribble defenders for fun. Make complete fools out of them. Now it's like he's afraid to take defenders on. Maybe it has to do with low confidence or just adapting to the pace of the PL or something. I don't know but i'm not worried. He's got far too much talent to fail. Eventually he'll start to dribble defenders again like he did at Lille. He'll find his ritme again. When he does we'll be in for one hell of a show. I swear couple of years from now people are gonna go "32 million for Hazard ? Bargain."
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Your right. He makes 110k a week. It was reported by several reliable French and Belgian media. English media were just guessing. I think the Daily Mail even spoke of 250k a week. Utter nonsense.
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I was going to post counterarguments until i read that last part. Your condescension is disgusting. I'm done talking to you.
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That's not what i said. "He's 21. In his first season at a new club, new country, new league, new system, new language. In 12 games he's scored 3 times, assisted 5, gave 27 keypasses, won 2 penalties and should have had a couple more. That's not bad for a 21 y old in his first season PL." What i meant with that is that when someone criticises Hazard it should be taken into consideration that he's 21 and in his first season. I posted the stats to proof that while he isn't having the best of games lately he was still important and productive in the games he's played. I then gave examples of Hazard being important in games this season as "ChelseaChelsea" said he still had to come out at the times we needed him. "He's yet to come at times when we need him? Did you like miss the beginning of the season where he won us the first games ? Or his assist against Tottenham for Mata which gave us the lead ? Or his cool penalty and his assist against Man united in the league cup ? In 13 games(12 PL+1 LC) he's played a major role in 5 of them." And then i responded to "ChelseaChelsea" saying Hazard missed 3 big chances. While he did indeed miss 3 big chances i made the argument that 2 of them were saved and wit another the ball bounced just before he made contact. "The 3 missed chances: The first the goalkeeper saves well. Hazard had to take it with his left foot. The second the ball bounces just before he hit it. The third Buffon gets lucky he deflectes it with the inside of his heel." The remarks about Willian and Reus playing better are imo just stupid. With that he implied that we better had gone for them. At the moment i could name a bunch of players that are playing better then our players atm. but that's just stupid. Every player has got a run of bad form. (especially a young player who's playing his first season in another team and another league) To then make comments about how it would be better to buy player "A" or "B" because they're playing better at the moment is just plain retarded and simply uncalled for. All the arguments i posted are valid ones. Everyone has the right to an opinion but i have the right aswell to disagree with them aslong as i post arguments to why i disagree with them. I have done that with my post.
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Funny reaction coming from you. Everytime someone says a bad word about Oscar your also immediately there defending him. So don't come in here and act all high and mighty. Your guilty of the same thing. Yes i'm a Hazard fan AND a Chelsea fan. So when i feel someone is criticizing him wrongfully then i will react and defend him as i see fit. If you've got a problem with that then tough luck.
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Ever stop to think how this would affect the team ? How this would affect the atmosphere in which our players have to perform? Just get behind the team. Put the teams best interest in front of your own damaged sense of pride and support the team. That's what a good supporter does. A good supporter doesn't stir things up when the club itself is already in a turmoil.
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Okay people are starting to believe daily fail articles so there are only 2 ways to explain this. 1. the daily fail has actually started writing good articles and they 're making a lot of sense. or 2. You people have lost your fucking minds. Because of your rage and dissapointement you've become so freaking gullible that you'd believe the regular shit articles they normally post. Well i'm gonna have to go with way nr 2. Seriously guys. This is the same shit as always. The media would like nothing more then for us to start boycotting and turning on our team. It would just give them more to write shit about.
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@ChelseaChelsea Fuck off. I can't even begin to tell you how much you pissed me off. He's 21. In his first season at a new club, new country, new league, new system, new language. In 12 games he's scored 3 times, assisted 5, gave 27 keypasses, won 2 penalties and should have had a couple more. That's not bad for a 21 y old in his first season PL. He's yet to come at times when we need him? Did you like miss the beginning of the season where he won us the first games ? Or his assist against Tottenham for Mata which gave us the lead ? Or his cool penalty and his assist against Man united in the league cup ? In 13 games(12 PL+1 LC) he's played a major role in 5 of them. The 3 missed chances: The first the goalkeeper saves well. Hazard had to take it with his left foot. The second the ball bounces just before he hit it. The third Buffon gets lucky he deflectes it with the inside of his heel. Willian and Reus playing a lot better ? Well go support Shaktar or Dortmund then.
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So now that you're done with cursing the board you wanna take a swing at Pep ? Okay i'll play along. No i don't. Imo he's the best candidate out there.
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I agree. I think It could work given the right guidance and if he works on his shooting. The way we played did make it difficult for a false 9 to work. We didn't retain possesion enough. The amount of times Hazard received a proper ball last night could be counted on 1 hand. About his finishing. He's just not used to getting into goalscoring positions. At Lille he was always the player that gave the assist or pre assist. Rarely was he the one who got on the end of chances because there just wasn't anyone good enough in his team to regulary put him in goalscoring positions. Don't worry his finishing will improve as he gets into these positions more and more. Imo experience plays a big factor.
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WTF is the matter with you people ?! Saying stuff like: "I hope Guardiola comes and fails epicly" "i hope pep rejects us" You're supposed to support Chelsea not FC RDM. Seriously I mentioned it in the real concerns thread before. People are far to emotionally attached to RDM. The fact that he won the FA cup and the CL + being a former player made him untouchable to many fans. RDM wasn't the right man for the job. Simple as that. I' m thankfull to him for winning the CL and saving the club from our crisis but that doesn't make him the right man for the job.
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Agree 100 %.
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I think RDM doesn't really wanna use Hazard as a false 9. I think he just wants to take advantage of his pace on the counterattack.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2235755/Fernando-Torres-dropped-Eden-Hazard-Juventus.html According to daily mail. Hazard as striker, Luiz and Cahill at the back, Cole LB, Ivan RB Also Azpi at right wing ?
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Oh i see. When you talk about history. Do you mean your history of cheating and influencing the referees ? To the other Juventus fans visiting this thread : sorry for this remark but he was asking for it with his "money don't replace history crap"
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FFS. First of all people need to stop thinking of attack and defense as 2 separate things. You attack as a team. You defend as a team. For example, when we lose possession we don't press we just drop deep. Doing this with Hazard and Mata isn't smart. You want them to have to defend as little as possible and get them on the ball as much as possible. Having them defend the way we do creates a considerable weakness. I think bringing in Guardiola would change everything. High defense line, pressing the opposition, playing out from the back, a deep lying playmaker in the pivot. He would change the way we attack. He would change the way we defend. Also about your "i won't say..." part. I think people have forgotten how Barcelona played before Guardiola was manager. They were a good team but nowhere near as good as they are today. Guardiola introduced the heavy pressing, the false 9. Guardiola perfected the system. He helped develop Iniesta, Xavi and Messi into the players they are today. The man deserves respect for what he has done and yes so does RDM but if your not the right kind of manager, your not the right kind of manager. Plain and simple. No amount of respect will change that fact. About the article: Guardiola already made it clear he doesn't wanna coach a team until next season. So unless Roman decides to torture Guardiola by shoving his head in ice cold water and screaming " Say you'll coach my team in January ! Say it !!" I don't see Guardiola joining us in january.
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Don't think he'll play with a defensive winger. I think he'll play a 4-3-3. Midfield 3 with Mikel and ramires-Oscar in front of him. Moses on 1 wing and Mata/Hazard on the other. Probably Mata seeing as Hazard played the full 90 minutes on saturday. Sturridge up front. Sit deep and try and counter.
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This actually proves the point i was making with all my previous comments. RDM's style is defensive counter attacking football. At the moment we're struggling and the only option he sees is reverting back to a defensive style off play. It's just his natural response. For me RDM can stay our manager for the season and play this season however he sees fit but at the end of the season he needs to take a step aside. Move to a club who has the personnel and ambition to play the way he likes and is capable of coaching. We need to bring in an attack minded manager who's got the tactical knowledge to make us play attacking football. imo Guardiola seems to be the best option out there. Hope we get him in the summer along with a first class striker and a defensive midfielder comfortable on the ball.
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I voted for Mata. Azpi was great and should be our first choice RB.