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But it does not mean that Mata cannot play there. Look at Ozil. He is not quick but he does a good job when out wide. Mata can do same, despite lacking the pace. Yes, Willian will help us out wide but that is jumping to conclusions to think he is signing William because Mata cannot play out wide.

I get your angle fully however the aforementioned players have nothing to do with Willian arrival. Different positions for a start apart from Piazon who I don't think is good enough. However players we have already, capable of doing a job will see chances limited.

What do you mean by "ultimate Moruinho type of player"? I think it will be the case with most of our attacking midfielders that they will be rotated. Well even if he is first choice for Belgium I think it would be best for him leading up to the World cup year if he played regularly as it will leave him in the best shape and form possible.

Good player but can't help but think he is making it harder for himself to get into the national team for Brazil. At Tottenham he certainly would have been an indispensable player for them and given a free role. Who knows but those are my initial thoughts. He would stand out at Tottenham but we have so much quality in this department already. probably wants the CL footy, maybe more money, who knows.

That is jumping to conclusions based on one game you saw Mata play out there.

But IMO he will need to be playing. The more I see of Mirallas he gets better and better. The amount of talents your national team has is amazing. There is also Mertens who has stepped up from the Eridivisie to the Serie A. Also generally for KDB form and fitness, I think he needs to be playing week in week out because he is a very good player. Whatever happens he will be used as rotation. For instance he was nominated our MOTM against Hull but next game he did not feature. This is going to be something he will have to accept if he wants to be a part of the Chelsea squad this season.

However with World Cup year coming up that will not be enough for KDB. There is quite a lot of competition in that Belgium team and if he is not playing regularly a player like Mirrillas who I like could possibly take his place.

There is a difference. I reckon Willian is a good player and will add some quality but look into the bigger picture. People are not complaining for any reason. Some members already feel we have good enough options in the attacking midfield positions and many who questioned us not signing anyone primarily wanted another striker, or a CM.

We still are looking at doing that though. Mourinho already said Rooney is still a primary target with another alternative.

WOW, difference of opinion happens so quick. When it looked like he was signing for Spurs a few days ago some were like he is a good player while a big majority was like he was an overrated player but now he is likely to join us opinion changes quickly. Is going to be really interesting to see how our strongest trio will turn out to be. Rotation looks like the main thing I guess.

We done it with Benayoun so nothing surprises me in football. Plus I don't think Moses would want to move there. With all respect I am sure better teams would be in for him.

Watch Arsenal get him on loan. Saves Wenger from spending as usual. They got Benayoun on loan from us when they wanted more depth. Can see them doing the same but Moses is a much better player than Benayoun.

But the way you go on about Mikel is like you have a personal agenda against him. "Tarnishing the myth that you (Mikel) can actually play football". That sounds patronizing and is quite unfair. Mikel might be in the starting lineup against United. That is my opinion anyway because those are the sort of games I can see Mourinho using him in. As I said nothing against you but your hate for him goes way over the top sometimes.

Yeah I agree with Shaw, fantastic talent, would love him here in a few years. However the contrasting point about Cole is when he did make them runs under Ancelotti is it not ironic that we won the league that season? That is why I think if we are to win the league we need more from our fullbacks like him because both our FB are the same. Also your point about Marcelo. Yes, that is what I feel Cole should do more, not to the same extent but some attacking intent because it gives you more bite and Marcelo attacking instincts got him a goal and proved a valuable asset for them.

That is why I had mixed feelings when we offered him a new contract. He needs to offer more apart from being a good defender. Look at Gibbs, Evra, Clichy, Enrique, Marcelo, Alaba, Alba, etc list goes on but my point is most fullbacks at big teams are very efficient at going forward and adding more to the attack. They regularly make overlapping runs and support the wingers. Cole just is not able to do this anymore and because of sometimes when we play the trio of Mata, Oscar and Hazard in which none are direct wingers as they like to cut in it would be good to have a fullback down the wings so that they can be looked at for the pass but Cole can't do this and I believe it will be a hindrance this season. Someone like Baines would be perfect here because he is a decent defender and brilliant going forward and probably has one of the best engines for a fullback I have seen.

Don't take this the wrong way or anything but it starts to get bloody irritating when you keep moaning about Mikel 24-7. An opinion is fine but all you ever do is post about how bad Mikel is and why Mourinho does not want him etc... and how good Lampard is, nothing else. Sounds like you have a personal agenda the way you keep ranting on about Mikel. He might go he might not but if he stays I will be pleased and I still feel he has a lot to offer to the team.

The thing is many people think Ivanovic had a good game and some differ. Apart from couple moments he was excellent, won nearly every single aerial duel and Agbonlahor did not rip him to shreds. He got past him about once but apart from that Agbonlahor was well marked and struggled to make a similar impact like he did against Arsenal. Ivanovic done ver well. Got the winning goal and was defensively solid IMO. A neutral fan I went to the game with game with randomly complemented his performance and I agreed. I don't think he had a bad game at all.

Bushman stand up

I still think you are over the drinking limit from when you posted that Schwarzer should be in goal over Cech for the Villa game. I will wait until the drink is out of your system before I consider replying to you

Sober up

Like I said stop chatting rubbish

So stop chatting rubbish then.

So why are you stating that "we got a manure fan who is very knowledgeable on Chelsea's team". then you are questioning why other United fans are on here. Why do you care and that post which you directed at Jay is quite patronizing. Who said he is very knowledgeable on our team. He is giving his opinion on what he sees.

Nice post mate. Agree with you on some and disagree on others. I agree DDG is improving but I would have that at 1-1. Even I think Cech is the better keeper, DDG proved last season in a few games against us of the quality he has and he stopped us winning 2 games due to quality saves, Is Rafael fit because you have Smalling listed as a starter? Anyway not sure about the RB are but if Rafael is fit maybe a bit of an advantage. I, unlike others am a big fan of Ivanovic. The CB I have at a tie, hard one. Even Evra has a lot of critics, I believe he is underrated but when I see him play he is a very consistent performer. I am not Cole's biggest fan because I feel he can be quite fragile and is not that good going forward as he used to be. Evra on the other hand can make defensive mistakes but he still performs good IMO and is very good going forward, scored quite a few last season. I say Evra is ahead of Cole, even some might not agree. The thing about Valencia is he is not exactly a firm fans favourite but he plays very well most times he plays against us and gives Cole a torrid time because of his power and pace and this is why I hate seeing him line up against us which I am sure he will do again. I do rate Cleverley but he is not better than Ramires, but he is improving. It will be a good game hopefully and I think the team that has most control of midfield will win the game. Like most times we play you, I reckon you will start of better then we will find our way back into the game. Can go anyway but hopefully we win;)

He is doing nothing wrong. Yeah it might look like it is a bit exaggerated to Chelsea fans but he is not trolling and is offering his viewpoint. Let him be, it is an open forum.