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Not sure we have the players for a 3-cb system. Only player who benefits from it is Alonso. tammy has been good tho.

Alonso can and should make mistakes today - he’s not playing in defense. the problem with this system is James who’s a fb (and looks good at that) and does not join the middle. All 3 cb systems depend on the wb to join the middle. zouma in the back 3 is weird too. At least tomori and azpi are the ones carrying it forward.

You are a self-righteous piece of work aren’t you? learn how to respect other opinions without name calling or perhaps discussion forums aren’t for you. Don’t like them, ignore list is for that. Suspect I’ve seen quite a few more great players than you. I don’t hate Eden. Just think he’s not that special - seen a lot better! You don’t fucking know me. You don’t know what I like or dislike because I haven’t told you.

I think that’s mostly down to skill and close control, which he has in abundance. Sure, I guess that’s what you saw, and granted, it was certainly the case some times. I also saw a player who often held to the ball way too long only to get fouled, often a professional foul to stop the play. Luck usually works in small samples, not consistently over many years, or at least that’s what I’ve learned. He does a good job protecting himself from hard tackles. Pushed and shoved is part of the game. As are the many little fouls that stopped him many many times. The funny thing here is that I’m the only one who seem interested as the why his CL record is so so bad... not only his performances but his stats compared to PL. Of course if you go back some pages folks are on and on that he lacks the “killer instinct” which of course has nothing to do with determination...or does it? think we are going on in circles here. I’m just making the same reiterated points. Even tho I don’t mind these exchanges. what can I say... I’m really not a Fan of his game, his worth ethic, and especially not a fan of his mentality. I’ve watched many great players over many years and hazard is just not that impressive to me.

Thank you. That’s exactly what I was saying. Went to the ground way too easily protecting himself from hard fouls (well-known strategy). Which evidently worked, since he never got seriously injured and got his fat ass in Madrid, like he always wanted. Unfortunately, it often works for the opposition too, since it’s an easy way to stop his runs, and does not have to be hard fouls either. Never had the mentality nor the fitness to do otherwise, which is exactly why I think he’s not a match winner at CL level. Great player on a long championship, but that’s it for me.

Hmm no? and it hasn’t been “debunked.” It’s just your fucking opinion against mine. There is nothing else to it even if your delusion makes you feel all righteous. lololol lololol lolol sure sure you are right... you are the best buddy.

No man... he was fantastic in CL winning many Tough CL matches on his own only to be let down by the team... speaking of delusion... Think history will see eden more like I do. We shall see.

It is downright stupid to think hazard showed tremendous dedication and exposed himself often while here at Chelsea. the guy shows up fat... dedication has no on/off switch.

You think my opinion is stupid and I think yours is stupid. You see it works both ways. Again I post whatever the fuck I want. If you disagree state with what or ignore, your choice. they are not mutually exclusive! Quality of the teams and player obviously matter as does what’s on the line! In single elimination, there is more dedication all around. Games are more physical because loser goes home. yes watching Eden play for years I think he never exposed himself. He never risks his wellbeing in a risky play. Never got angry or restless in a match. So yeah I very much disagree if you think otherwise. His injury record showcases that to me. It is ok if it does not for you. either eden is a player capable of winning tough matches, esp single-elimination, on his own or he is not. I think not. you have your opinion and I have mine.

I really don’t give a shit whether you rate my opinion or not. Just address the points I make or we really have nothing to discuss. I couldn’t disagree more. I posted edens injury record which is typical of a player who never exposed himself. I needed not to, since I’ve watched him play for years in a very laid-back way. you could not be more wrong on the differences between single-elimination tough cups like the later stages of CL and WC. It’s literally a different ballgame where strong mentally and physicality are far more important than in long championship games.

What a preachy post. Kinda silly one too in a discussion forum. Might as well lock all player threads then. Imagine if we were to disrespect any of our players esp the ones who won us silverware... still waiting for you in the alonso thread. nobody said he’s not world class. That he’s not one of the best, esp at Chelsea. I’m comparing him with other great players! Which is something people do in discussion forums... eden was great in the PL. Never did shit in CL and that’s typical of players who lack determination to withstand the physicality that these single-elimination games bring. At least that’s what I saw on and off the pitch all these years. He’s a guy who shows up fat after getting his dream job. I thought his injury record that I posted was interesting as a data point, I guess not.

fair enough, you rate him a lot higher than I do. Just can't imagine a player like eden as a running back. Only if food. Nah, sorry, I don't think eden exposed himself often. Can only think of Ronaldinho as a player less likely to go into tackles. Eden never showed that extra effort, a sliding tackle to win the ball or to finish. For me he is extremely laid back on the pitch. He only plays at this level because of his talent esp close control. Most of his injuries were muscle, not from tackles: https://www.transfermarkt.us/eden-hazard/verletzungen/spieler/50202 For all his antics, compare that with Neymar: https://www.transfermarkt.us/neymar/verletzungen/spieler/68290 All these skillful players protect themselves, it's part of it, but once in a while, in important games, they need to show that extra determination. E.g. CL matches... Eden never did. He never gets angry in adversity. I have a hard time liking players who lack determination. Even though I think neymar is more of a match winning type, I think he lacks that as well.

As a fan of both footballs, I could not disagree more. And honestly, sounds like yet another excuse for eden to not be producing the goods as some here have predicted. running-backs run into contention and do not really avoid contact, often thru the middle. Can’t think of a player who protects himself more than eden. And he mostly stays on the left avoiding contention. Just kick him good in the beginning of the game and he will vanish. once again, I find it interesting that we don’t link his often mentioned lack of determination, on and off the pitch, to avoiding hard tackles and protecting himself. It is the same determination. The very thing that allows Ronaldo to compete against Messi and prevents, because he lacks that, eden from getting anywhere that level.

He did have a good game against Brighton. Just his finishing wasn’t there. giroud is very different: stronger in the air, much slower, but more reliable against stronger opposition. Tammy needs to do this, the linkup, movement, and winning high balls, when playing against stronger opposition. I still see a strong link between his performances and the level of the opposition. thats the next step he needs to take, and each of the next steps will be the hardest, as he approaches the elite. Im not yet sure he will make it at this level. There is a good change that he will be at least a lukaku, but I’m still hoping for a bit more. Time will tell.

Been impressed with Leicester #4 Souyuncu. Still 23 and looks as ready as cbs get. Some important similarities with VVD.

That’s his job... what else does he do aside from defending? He did and should enable players who can actually contribute in attack, which alonso does. BTW, Alonso's positioning is all strategy esp at home. Heh I hope we don’t return to the ridiculous notion that the manager tell me the player to sit back, but he goes to attack anyway....

A other strong game by him against Brighton. he’s by far the more ready of the young players. His decisions are particularly impressive.

Had a good game and scored a goal from his own play. The step over gave him a bit more angle for the shot. hate is blinding folks around here.

Stay calm... take a deep breath. he’s been very good and is absolutely a massive prospect, but he defended against championship attackers today and that makes all the difference. don’t think a cb should ever be in contention for motm when playing against weaker sides at SB.

While being a technically correct statement, it’s also where the false equivalence is.

Can’t agree with. That’s a false equivalence. the science shows one thing, what we do with the information is really up to us. The oil industry money is clearly behind the denial side, which tells me everything I needed to know. I just don’t the solutions are feasible or even enough, given that population growth is rarely discussed.

I do my own research, which usually means following the money. There is only so much time we can spare on hobbies, considering work and life in general, so we trust certain media sources more than others. I find it very hard to believe there are groups out there with more money to spare and that exert more influence than the oil industry. most of the green movement I see today, which some call radical, or about climate change, is merely about ensuring capitalism works. It’s about enforcing that the oil industry finally pays all the costs of its own business... it never has. The science behind climate change is actually pretty obvious, I mean artificially releasing high quantities of co2, that earth took a very long time to collect, creates imbalances. regarding the solutions, then I’m very very skeptical.

Folks here way too excited and taking way too much from this game. Very poor opposition and at SB at that. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Props to frank. Excellent starting XI and subs for rotations... all we’ve been asking in cup games.

Yeah fair enough. Think the chances Alonso created were a lot better than what azpi did, and I have no problem with azpi btw - solid defensive RB. A better fb than Alonso is. alonso spaces and the number of chances was all strategy. Noticed that during the match as all the passing was very much towards him and with urgency. the post match interviews corroborated that. i honestly don’t think we will ever create more open chances against a team like Liverpool. So if we don’t convert them, that will make winning very very hard. your point of poor defending is true. On the other hand, we seem to concede the same type of goals regardless who plays and that to me is mostly on frank. btw that free kick was very close, which makes reacting to it very difficult. Think positioning was more important, and that was not done well at all. Regardless., rather we don’t foul players too often in that position... everybody struggles to defend set pieces from that range.