BlueLyon

Mate two things. Dont ever compare Neymar with Ronaldinho. Ronnie at his best was just pure filth, he could do absolutely anything. Neymar is great, but nowhere near. Talent wise yes, but he just doesnt have that grace and magic Ronnie had. And his diving is a disgrace. Hazard, Neymar,...these players are all great but Ronaldinho, Zidane, Messi are goats. Secondly I agree with Hazard part. Its bs that he needs better players to deliver. He had world class games with current lot and then had shit games with current lot. Its up to him to turn up. BUT that said he would be better in team (here or somehwere else) with more stability. If he played with same good players that wouldnt be as inconsistent as ours for several years, he would enter next level, Im pretty sure of that.

Everyone defends Jorginho but I dont think its coincidence we turned to shit the moment Jorginho got owned vs Everton. He was clearly very influental first few months and then snap.

Mate thats the point of developing player. You think these young players just come in and deliver since game 1? I saw Mbappe prior to his super rise and he had shit games too in the beggining. But he had moments of class. I guess Monaco made a mistake by playing him? Thing is you have two similar players in Willian and CHO right now but one is past it and the other one is potential top player. Willian had also whole half season of chances and instead of improving, he went downhill. You actualy went to compare youth 18 year old who played one game a month versus established player with 28 games. Give CHO 20 PL games too and then compare the two. And if you think comparing end product between these two players just like that gives such a clear conclusion that Willian should play ahead of CHO, then we should send Pulisic straight to Vitesse since he did even worse for BVB. Spuds did it with Kane. United did it with Rashford. Liverpool did it with TAA. At the begginings of of these young player rises, they had better and more established senior players in squad. But these kids have potential and regular playtime brings improvement. Van Gaal, Pochettino and Klopp knew that. Sarri doesnt. And also sure CHO might flop. He might never deliver. But at least we should try because the odds for him to become top player are damn good.

You know guys we dont agree on him in everything but it all comes down to one thing. Spuds, Arsenal, Everton went in game to press Jorginho for 90min and they all succeeded. Jorginho was completely useless in those games and shut down by anyone who copied that tactic. And it doesnt matter if he gets better or more consistent or starts making more long passes, as long he gets shut down whenever the opponent decides so, he has absolutely no business playing in first 11. We are done if our key midfield player cant do shit under pressure.

Why 4:3:3? I said we should switch to 4231 with Kante and Jorginho in double pivot. I dont think Jorginho is good enough defensively to be last one when Kante marches forward, but he already is last one in 433 and we always get overrun. The difference however would be now that there is Kante most of the time next to him, except when he goes forward.

He is a DM in double pivot and he plays as b2b for Sarri. Thats pretty much out of position.

I can understand the team getting alot ot blame from everyone me included. Some of it is hot headed, some level headed, but calling Azpi to be replaced just tops it how unpatient some fans are. Every team needs players like Azpi. He is limited offensively, but if we had proper attacking lb, if our midfielders created something and our attackers scored goals, Azpi limitations wouldnt be evident at all. But yeah lets get rid of one player that tries, had years of fantastic and loyal service and isnt in decline yet. Oh and he is the captain, irrrelevant little detail. I get why people want to get rid of some players that are actualy crap (including me), but I swear same members here wanted to get rid of Costa, wanted to get rid of Hazard when he had bad season, would still see no biggie if he left now and next one they would get rid of is Azpi. Dont know who is funnier them or our board.

I think Kante and Jorginho should play in double pivot. More defensive stability, less pressure on Jorginho, Kante can still roam forward like he did under Conte etc. Kante alone didnt work great for us or France. But then Sarri says Jorginho doesnt fit that formation. Well for someone so praised to be smart, quick minded, tactical blah blah Jorginho is realy limited then. That said, our current formation is absolute piss in midfield and attack, so why Sarri didnt try changing it to 4231 for couple of games is as weird as his rotation. Conte changed it too afterall and it worked. Except for ball movement (which doesnt lead to anything) our midfield 3 are realy bad in creating or finishing. Sarri thinks we will just gel perfectly into the current system somehow and improve by playing same over and over. What will realy happen is bad results, players getting angry/unmotivated and Sarri getting sack quicker than you can say Sarriball.

Part of me thinks Sarri knows best and will make it right by playing Kante out of position but the other part says he is the biggest idiot in football for playing best DM in the world out of position.

If true, this board will be the death of our club. Bunch of cunts who look only for profit instead of getting a dof and build a squad.

Monaco got done 5:1 at home vs strasbourg with Cesc in first 11. Looks like its actual possibilty they are going down. On another note, I know he wanted to play, but could easily wait till summer considering we dont have replacement for him.

I agree with the exaggerated wild reactions (myself included). But we do make some valid points. You can see its not working yet Sarri who is an expert doesnt see it. And it will go like we are not qualified for such observation and Sarri and club are always right. That is just false. Fans saw it with Iva. They saw it with Cahill. They saw it in Cesc. Now they see it in Alonso and Willian. The managers however always reacted much later, but once they did they proved fans were actualy right. I dont think people want Sarri out seriously. Its just angry reaction. But its also true we are not as pissed with the defeats as much we are pissed with lack of progress, motivation and most importantly changes. That shit just wont fly.

We win this game with Alonso and Willian and they gonna be even more undroppable. We win this game with Emerson and CHO, Sarri will bench the two 100% for next 10 PL games. Its a lose lose scenario anyway.

Sarri: its hard to motivate players... Well no shit sherlock if players know they will get picked regardless of how shit they play.

I was anti Sarri in summer because I hate tiki taka and anything related to just pass pass pass. But we are in this now and the club better stick up with it for 2 more seasons. I hate how we play right now, but they made the decision to get this manager and change style. It will take time. Just dont fucking abandon ship because it will end up in a even bigger mess. Maybe Sarri will fly out the window if he keeps managing like that, but we should continue with attacking managers for 3 seasons and see where we end up.

Hmm. People are fumming over many players. Over strikers, over Willian, Pedro, Kovacic, Alonso, Barkley,...they are all underperforming and rightfuly are being called out. Just because our attack is shite, it doesnt excuse Jorginho underperforming. Same goes to Hazard, Kante, Azpi or anyone else. But difference is they have been great servants for the club and have some credit. Jorginho on other hand doesnt and the jury is out.

Indeed but then again when he makes a stupid pass infront of our goal that is intercepted or when he tries to hoof the ball to our attack and it ends in the stands 8/10 times, thats on him. I expected him to be alot more mature and smart on the ball. Creativity or defensive unit are a team process, but he as individual doesnt strike me as reliable which is complete absurd given his role and all. He panics too much for my liking. Just today, arsenal was pressing, we got the ball and pass it to Jorginho. From then on I should feel relief and see him keep us away from danger by either passing in right direction, dribble forward or just hoof it. Its all about doing the smart move. Thats exactly what he was brought for. He panics and makes shit pass that is easily intercepted which puts us in big trouble. Not cool. Also everyone is now a system player or what? If 9 other players play well, I will play well and feel comfortable. If they play bad, I play bad and my mentality will hit rock bottom. Where are players that are more mature and take the charge when required? I mean thats what you pay for 60m instead of 30.

Its all about standards mate. We brought a world class midfielder for 60m and he is doing only the basics.

Bringing a striker and playing Eden in his actual position will at least bring back the best of Eden. I mean the guy plays two best players Eden and Kante out of their position and questions whats wrong. Simple math mate.

Same with spuds. That was like 9-12 points guaranteed every season. I remember I always felt realy good before games against these two. It was like 90% win for us. Honestly the two teams I always thought; ok tomorrow 3 more points. Smaller teams or Manchesters were unpredictable, but not Arsenal and spuds. Nowdays I hope for a draw against either. But you know we were smart back then. Park the bus and let them attack. Then kill them on counter. It worked. Today we have seen the opposite. We play possesion while Arsenal, Spuds do us on counter.

Serie a was perfect for him because its slower. Sarri said he is quick in his mind, but he panics and struggles so much everytime under pressure here. His long passes have been bad, his short passes are often over the air so its hard for teammates to control them and his passing in defense is awful, so many times he tried to pass and opponent got on the ball causing us alot of trouble. Even tonight vs arsenal. Generaly we have greatly improved the possesion play since this guy came, but our results and performances have been awful for awhile now so whats the point of having all the possesion... You play to win, not play to be fancy.

I dont know what is going behind Sarri-Alonso-Emerson relationship, BUT if Sarri was rational and wise manager, he would play CHO ahead of Willian. No ifs, no maybes. He would throw him out and play him because CHO has drive, ambition and talent while Willian has been complete crap for weeks. But he doesnt. He has his boys on the pitch who are undroppable. So yeah I dont believe this Emerson is worse than Alonso crap. He just plays Alonso like Mou played Iva.

You guys remember the days when we had a corner or set piece and got excited because we could actualy score? Or when we were down but you knew our lot had it in them to turn around? Or when we were 1:0 ahead and you knew you can trust our players to keep it that way? Or when we played like shit and still won, scoring that one chance and it felt so good to rub it into all those fuckers for mocking us we dont play nice football and resort to park the bus? Or when our attackers scored, our midfielders created and our fullbacks played their part? Or when we had competent board with smart transfers. Or you know when our manager and players had more passion for this club than any other team, despite we were called mercenaries by other fans? Yeah the current state of the club hurts like a motherfucker.

Guys relax as soon we get Higuain we will be back and everything will be peachy. Whats the worst that could happen? Higuain being superbad but because Sarri loves him, he will play everygame and we will buy him for 30m in summer and play him for next two seasons along with Alonso and Willian to spearhead us into relegation. So, nothing to worry about.

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