Santiago.

I honestly don't understand some players who play for Madrid. Granero, Pedro leon, Robben, Sneijder, Sahin, owen etc. Great players who ruined apart of their career playing for them.

Because their 'silent rivalry' is more powerful and drives them to perform better. Messi claimed Ronaldinho is the greatest barca player who ever lived, does that make him better than Messi?

And when Rooney chose Xavi for his fantasy ultimate team over Scholes, does that make Xavi better than scholes? Your idea in realizing who is a higher level than another is beyond irrational. Taking one man's belief, without taking into consideration the actual reasoning behind his claims and disregarding the mere fact the level of success and quality differences each two have. "he says he's better, so he must be the best'

That logic is beyond irrational. For a man being humble and claiming a certain coach is the best in the world, gives him a permanent label on him declaring that? Xavi said Scholes is the best midfielder of his generation. Does that make him better than Xavi? The Spanish are always humble ffs, i should know.

Not even Debatable. What pep has done in the last 3 years will go down in the history books, They have similar philosophies but until Bielsa has stepped up to a bigger team and a bigger stage, they don't even compare.

Not really, same philosophy and everything. But without pep's influence i don't think they will be the same, still great, but not the same.

TBH, Ramire's goal came out of the fuckin blue. I literally said, 'The fuck?" after the ball went into the back of the net and was just shocked and prayed for the half time whistle to be blown. Class and beauty at its finest Where as Torres goal, i felt that it was truly the icing on the cake. After all the terrible luck we have had the past seasons, after all the bull shit we have been receiving, after all the arrogant Barca fans and the cocky barca players, after realizing what we just accomplished, after seeing a man who has had the worst years of his life, return to the Nou camp and showed the whole world the meaning of 'class is permanent.' So many emotions went through me when Torres scored, which is why that was the first time i cried during a football match.

Back to reality boys -------------Torres----------- --Kalou----Mata---Ramires ----Lampard---Romeu------ A.Cole-------------------Bosingwa --------J.Terry---Ivanovic----------- ---------------Cech--------------------

Class wise and Quality - Ramires vs Barca, Absolute beauty of a finish. - Emotional wise- Torres vs Barca, screamed 'Torres' at the top of my lungs for about a minute, had tears in my eyes .

As Gary Neville put it, "its written in the stars"

We should seriously close this thread till the summer, we have to focus the end this season as champions of Europe, finish 4th, and increase our FA Cup record

Chelsea F.C started the Pep dominance in 2009, only fitting that Chelsea ended it in 2012

FOR BELETTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

During the Torres goal

Looking through the Barca forums just puts the biggest smile on my face. " i am Glad Bayern are in the final, at least one team will be playing football and i hope they kill Chelsea." I am so tempted to make an account and troll the living shit out of that forum, but no. Im better than those glory hunting knobs.

Drogba will play Center Back

In Inesta's mind "well don't i feel like an asshole"

Juliano Belletti's Children before the match, absolute legend for both clubs Love him

----Torres----Drogba---- -----------Mata------------- -Lampard-----Essien---- ----------Mikel--------------- A.Cole--------------Bosingwa --------Luiz--Cahill------------- ------------Cech------------------ OR ------------Drogba-------------- Kalou-----Mata-----Sturridge ----Lampard----Mikel--------- A.Cole----------------Bosingwa --------Luiz-----Cahill------------ ------------Cech------------------- I know its early, but what should we go with??

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